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About eight months ago I swore that I was absolutely not going to buy any more cars...in fact I really needed to thin things out. Then this happened. I nearly managed to resist until I sat here. The moment I saw (and smelled) the cab it had to be mine. I'd wanted a Merc from this era since the early 90s when my folks hired one to move house with. Was impossible to justify getting one though...until this turned up. The family had floated the idea of fancying a camper or caravan at some point...and this was a vehicle we could all enjoy, it just happened to have a Merc T1 underneath the camper bit...bonus! The interior decor is delightfully 1980s and astonishingly comfortable. On the test drive she drove like a brand new van, even the gearchange is precise. Granted this might have had something to do with that... When did you last see one of these without an intergalactic mileage on? The huge history file that came with it probably helped too. For the majority of its life it's been maintained with no regard to expense. Quite how much so became really obvious when I came to change the timing cover gasket. When did you last see an engine this clean? Unsurprisingly there are a few things needing attention - though given what I paid for it it was still a bargain. [] Rust. Windscreen scuttle, bonnet & front panel mainly, replacement panels are out there at least. [] Fuel tank breather is blocked internally somewhere...royal pain when trying to fill a 70 litre tank! [] Brake pads need changed. [] Running lights above the cab don't work. [] Exhaust is shot - and mind bogglingly over complicated anyway, so a stainless one with a side pipe will be going on. The pipe currently goes all the way to the back and the fumes are sucked in through the fridge vent...hence side pipe. [] Something is squeaking up front...hoping it's the water pump rather than the alternator as it's cheaper. [] Some services and interior bits and pieces still need to be reinstated as the previous previous keepers had decided to start upgrading stuff...my plan is to be return it to as close to factory spec as possible. She's currently off the road for the winter...and after only a few weeks I'm already massively missing driving it. I was slightly worried when I first got it that in a vehicle this big and heavy with 2.3 litres of screaming normally aspirated diesel engine pushing things along with 78bhp that pace might be a worry. Not a bit...she will quite happily rumble along at 60mph, and will do 70 if asked, though she's obviously not quite as happy about it. Did I use this as a daily driver in the summer? You bet I did! I really miss getting to drive the buses when I was back up north, this ticks a few of the same boxes at least. You'll definitely see more of this later...
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Last Edit: Feb 7, 2019 0:32:41 GMT by Zelandeth
Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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lightyearman
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GYJDM - Grimsby based Japanese car club - Find us on Facebook
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Ive always loved this shape of Merc commercial. I think the campers are the only ones to survive. I'd love a panel van of this ilk!
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'89 Honda CRX siR Glassroof Flint black fully restored track beasty '90 Nissan S13 Pignose - pass the mig wire '86 Mini - matt orange, 13" Wellers, Project 2018 '97 LDV Convoy home built camper/tramper van '04 Saab 9-5 Aero HOT. Anyone want it? '91 Honda VFR400 NC30 17,000 km from new '87 Honda XR80 4 stroke baby crosser '03 Mini Cooper S - honestly, they are fun... '15 VW T5.1 LWB daily brick
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Ive always loved this shape of Merc commercial. I think the campers are the only ones to survive. I'd love a panel van of this ilk! They still make them new! Only the very heavy duty version mind.
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Specialist Bodyshop & Fabrication Classic, Retro, Prestige & Custom Small Repairs to Concours Restorations Mechanical Work Vintage to Modern
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dikkehemaworst
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Yes! Sheepskin heaven!!
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lightyearman
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GYJDM - Grimsby based Japanese car club - Find us on Facebook
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Ive always loved this shape of Merc commercial. I think the campers are the only ones to survive. I'd love a panel van of this ilk! They still make them new! Only the very heavy duty version mind. Like the Snap On vans, as in the bigger versions? They are called the Vario now I think, I didn't realise they are the same!
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'89 Honda CRX siR Glassroof Flint black fully restored track beasty '90 Nissan S13 Pignose - pass the mig wire '86 Mini - matt orange, 13" Wellers, Project 2018 '97 LDV Convoy home built camper/tramper van '04 Saab 9-5 Aero HOT. Anyone want it? '91 Honda VFR400 NC30 17,000 km from new '87 Honda XR80 4 stroke baby crosser '03 Mini Cooper S - honestly, they are fun... '15 VW T5.1 LWB daily brick
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trimtechniques
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Porsche 928 4.7 ltrs of German grunt. Mazda MX-5 MK1 Dakar. VW T4 camper
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Nice looking camper. I used to drive d307 (i think) back in the early 1990s. I can't remember if it had power steering though. I think that it didn't and as such I remember the heavy steering rather than how good the van actually was.
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trimtechniques
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Nice looking camper. I used to drive d307 (i think) back in the early 1990s. I can't remember if it had power steering though. I think that it didn't and as such I remember the heavy steering rather than how good the van actually was.
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No power steering here but it's not too bad really (certainly no worse than the Lada!), decent sized steering wheel and a good lock helps...
The only reason it grates in the Lada sometimes is that it has the turning circle of the Titanic!
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Having got the belts adjusted (after much swearing) yesterday I wanted to take the Invacar out for another quick test today. This didn't start great as I discovered that the clutch in the van had decided over night to go from "somewhat dodgy" to "non existant." Now, I might be willing to try shuffling a small car around the drive with no clutch, but trying to move something that big with as many blind spots without a clutch just seemed to be a disaster waiting to happen. Especially given that there's a good second or so delay between turning the ignition off and the engine actually stopping! The whole master cylinder failing right after the slave cylinder just seemed a bit odd to me. I know the slave had failed because overnight at one point it dumped all the fluid on the ground under the van...no questions there. Seemed distinctly odd to me though that the master would fail so nearly simulteneously. What I did remember though was that the fluid in there when I got it was absolutely rank - it looked like strong black coffee. I had a sneaking feeling that it might have wound up ingesting some of the crud that was inevitably floating around in the bottom of the reservoir when the fluid all leaked out. So then...let's go stand on our head for ten minutes and get the master cylinder out. This would have been far easier if the driver's door wasn't jammed up against the hedge meaning I had to do everything from the other side of the cab. Neverthless, didn't take me long once I figured out how to get the split pin holding the pushrod onto the pedal out. I reckon I wasted about twenty minutes on that. Initially when I got the master cylinder off it was utterly disinterested in holding pressure. Blocking the outlet and pushing the actuating rod in simply resulted in it making strange burping noises from the fluid inlet. After flushing and working through copeous amounts of brake cleaner though it seems to have come good. Reassembling it and bleeding things through has resulted in a working clutch. In fact a working clutch with the bite point at a far more sensible point than it has been as long as I've had the van. It had always been quite low before. Quite glad that this has been sorted out easily. It's been an expensive enough month already without another £75-100 worth of master cylinder being bought. Fixing an existing part was definitely preferable to having to get more parts bought in.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Feb 11, 2019 16:09:25 GMT
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Lovely old thing. Nice one!
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Feb 11, 2019 17:40:50 GMT
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omg love it so much ,,,had 1 years ago but got stolen ,,,still miss it
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Last Edit: Feb 11, 2019 17:41:15 GMT by bigwayne
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Feb 11, 2019 19:56:45 GMT
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omg love it so much ,,,had 1 years ago but got stolen ,,,still miss it I do have to admit that security is something that does worry me somewhat given that these seem to be in quite strong demand for shipping overseas. To that end I make sure that overnight when at home it's boxed in on the driveway behind the most modern car in the houshold (VAG of some description which changes every four months). Hope being that having to shift that to get it out will make another car somewhere else an easier target for them.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Feb 11, 2019 20:50:04 GMT
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Hurrah for ancient Merc Autotrails! Good to see another on here. [] Rust. Windscreen scuttle, bonnet & front panel mainly, replacement panels are out there at least. [] Fuel tank breather is blocked internally somewhere...royal pain when trying to fill a 70 litre tank! 1) I take it you have discovered "Coastal Motorhomes" on fleabay? There is a German place which is very good for panels too but I have forgotten the name. I can look it up if you need it. 2) Are you referring to gobbing diesel out of the filler and down your trousers? I think that's a design quirk. Good fun in Europe where pumps are attended and you have to learn "fill it slowly please" in several languages. Often ignored to begin with, they soon learn.... Your's looks in better nick than ours. forum.retro-rides.org/thread/111412/1991-mercedes-benz-208-camperMight actually be MOT ready next weekend....
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Feb 11, 2019 23:11:42 GMT
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Biggest problem with it just now is that fuel won't go in faster than about a pint a minute past half full - so it takes about 15 minutes to fill the thing up. Tesco pumps time out too quickly to do it in one transaction.
Most of the floor and a fair chunk of the rear wall has been rebuilt in mine already - even if the guy who did it used the most dense and impossible to work with wood I've ever come across.
Yep, I've been procrastinating about buying a windscreen scuttle from Coastal for months now...I reckon it will get the fibreglass treatment for now though. I think she's a keeper so I've no qualms about getting a proper bodyshop to do some of the work.
Mine will need a bit of work before the MOT in the spring. Mainly a complete exhaust, probably the front ball joint on the steering drag link. Oh, and the brake pads which have been in the glove box since about a fortnight after I bought it.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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I think I must be a couple of weeks behind you as I have just bought the very same Van with the same sort of low mileage. I took one look inside and thought thats the one for me,
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Nicely done! If that's the case, any chance you could snap some photos of the kitchen and bathroom areas? I'm trying to put these back how the manufacturer intended, but I've not yet been able to find a decent photo of how things were originally set up so it's been a bit of a guessing game in that department.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Feb 19, 2019 19:33:22 GMT
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This afternoon just before I packed up for the day I finally got around to throwing a bit of paint at the windscreen scuttle on the van, which I'd been meaning to do forever. It's not a permenant solution nor is it pretty, but the idea is that it will keep the critical combination of water and air from being able to get to the metal to continue to rust things once it's painted. Won't keep forever, but helps it look a bit less scruffy in the meantime.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Nothing Invacar related today. Any work in the engine bay requires the garage door to be open, and the wind was blowing rain straight into the garage, so wasn't willing to mess around with that. Instead though decided to get on with some of the stuff still waiting to be done inside the van well away from the weather. Have now got most of the bathroom panelled in now. Just need to do the last foot or so and around the cabinet and a few fiddly bits. Then have wallpaper to go up (essentially glorified sticky back plastic) and seal the corners and edges. Still looks a mess - but you can't actually see the innards of the wall any more, and should be fine once we have some decently thick wall covering over it. Nice to get a bit of work done on this, it's been months since I really did anything on the van and the new holiday season is starting to enter my thoughts now. Do still need to decide what to do about the exhaust...definitely will be getting a short side exit stainless system made up...question will be whether that happens before or after the MOT. The cost of the standard system may well make that decision for me. If it's expensive may just have to get it booked in to have a stainless system fitted before the MOT. Unless I can do enough to get this through a test...but with one hanger snapped off and a foot long split in the silencer that seems unlikely...especially as I will need to get the whole thing off to sort the hanger anyway as it's buried up directly above the middle of the expansion box, with the propshaft in the way on one side and fuel tank on the other preventing access while in place. So...the Van (known) MOT to do list... [] Fit new nearside headlight due to the current one having a tarnished reflector. Already have it, just needs fitted. [] Replace brake pads (already in stock). [] Repair or replace the sieve...I mean exhaust. [] Replace rubber boot on steering drag link front ball joint. [] Replace the weeping fuel return line. [] Properly mount the fresh water tank (or remove it for the test). Think that's it for the known MOT stuff. The brake pipes while serviceable are pretty old looking, so I may well get a set of flexi hoses in stock and change them while I have the wheels off to do the pads. I tend to like changing things like that on any new vehicle I get - especially one as heavy as this! Immediate to do list that's NOT for the MOT: [] Fit the new thermostat that has been in the glove box for several months. [] Sort the heater blower. [] Remove the fuel tank so I can properly clear out the vent line so it takes less than half an hour to fill the thing past 1/3 full. [] Figure out what's squeaking up front. Keeping fingers crossed it might just be a crusty old belt. [] Properly fit the new propshaft slip joint boot (it has had a highly technical plastic bag and cable tie substitute since a week or so after I got the van). [] Figure out what the fluff the previous previous owner has done to the split charging system and return it to how the factory intended. [] Finish putting the kitchen back together & plumb the gas to the fridge and cooker back in. All stuff that can be done in nice little chunks. Then of course there is the "sort the rust in the windscreen scuttle" which will be a world of pain. Oh...and drive it again. Realised when sitting in the driver's seat today quite how much I'm missing wafting around in it. Yeah...Most people wouldn't class a 29 year old 78bhp 2.8 tonne van as something they would miss driving...but I am not most people. Need to get back in here! Still kind of amused that that is the first thing I have to jump into straight after putting the Invacar away due to how the driveway Tetris works out.
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Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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Having a bit of a tough time emotionally over the last few days so being able to just shut myself in the van and pretend the outside world didn't exist for a few hours was a good thing I thought. Here is where we were left things today. All walls are now "panelled" save for the top inch or two because I need to remove the shower curtain rail to do that bit. It's the work of ten minutes to do that tomorrow though. All the corners are now sealed up, as are the edges around the toilet. I still need to actually track down a period appropriate fold out wash basin from somewhere...or just give in and fit something modern. Worth mentioning that the black bit in the above image is actually identical to the white panels, it's just the remainder of an earlier batch which happened to be black because it was what was in stock. Next up will be to go over some areas with a quick skim of filler just to smooth out the surface, then wallpaper. Oh, and make a cover to go in the shower tray when it's not in use, hopefully that will reduce the propensity for me to nearly break my neck every time I walk in or out of the room. The room very obviously rattles less now, even when just walking around in the van. Tomorrow I'll probably finish sealing up the one edge left because I ran out of sealant, then move into finally pulling the carb off the Invacar to get it cleaned up. Have been jumping around between cars a lot this week.
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Last Edit: Mar 9, 2019 21:58:16 GMT by Zelandeth: clarification added
Current fleet: 73 AC Model-70. 75 Rover 3500. 84 Trabant 601S. 85 Sinclair C5. 06 Peugeot Partner 1.6HDi.
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