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I don't think we have got one, so here we go. I know there are folks on here who dabble or have dabbled in the past or, like me, just enjoy going to tracks to see the racing. From wiki- Stock car racing was brought to Britain in 1954. Taking place on existing greyhound or speedway tracks, the cars were mostly road cars from the 1930s with locked rear axle differentials and added armour for contact racing. After the first couple of years custom-built cars began to appear eventually making the 'stock' car name something of a misnomer. Since the early days of stock car racing in Britain the sport has developed into many different classes. In addition, non-contact oval racing became known as Hot Rods, while the original kind of armoured road car used in the 1950s developed into saloon stock cars and unarmoured cars raced in full contact banger racing. Some pictures from the excellent oldstox.com web page. There is some fantastic old drag racing stuff on there too. The earlier days of stock cars are now recreated with the Brisca Heritage races. Big V8 F1 and sidevalve F2, all period correct. Modern Brisca cars are bespoke racing cars. The "stock" aspect was evolving out as soon as racers started uprating components, building chassis with truck axles to take the power from big American engines and developing ways to get cars around faster. F1 cars are lapping shale tracks faster than speedway bikes (700-odd HP will do that). F2 cars are Ford Pinto powered. Cars are "graded" according to points, with roof fins being coloured accordingly. Red are the fastest, and start fron the back of the grid, so drivers have to battle their way past all the other cars in order to win. White tops start at the front, with yellow and blue in between. Racing is very fast and extremely close. Contact is allowed, in the form of pushing and nudging cars in front order to shove them off the racing line. Stock cars race anti-clockwise. Saloon formulas run clockwise. I'll move onto some other formulas in a bit.
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Last Edit: Feb 2, 2019 12:53:44 GMT by Deleted
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GP Midgets are the fastest of all short circuit cars, and are bespoke racing cars of up to about 1400cc. front or rear engined, they are flippin' quick. Perhaps a bit more appropriate to RR, classic hot rods started out as a non-competetive, just for fun formula which developed into a very popular race series which harks back to the "Golden Era" of Hot Rod racing. Ie, pre-Toyota Starlet and no space frame chassis. National Hot Rods have evolved into space-framed specials, but clad in clones of road going cars, mostly Vauxhall Tigra and Peugeot 206cc. Most tracks run domestic series of Hot Rods, sometimes built to the same rules as other tracks or promoters, so drivers can race at other tracks than their home circuit. Often very popular as a cheap (or rather, less expensive) way into racing, cars are lightly modified road cars, stripped with a cage and some suspension modification. These are Rookie Rods at Buxton (my local track apart from Bank Holiday Belle Vue) a few years back Hot Rod racing is strictly non-contact. Although high speeds and very close racing means some rubbing is inevitable, drivers can be penalised for deliberate contact.
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Those are super pics Mr Grumpy. You can have bonus points for including some converted coach race transporters too.
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Saloon stock cars are just that... Picture from google. Looks like Buxton. Like the others, these have evolved into bespoke racers, although using standardish Sierra running gear. A gratuitous chassis pic from google. National Ministox race under the Brisca banner, and are for 11-16 year olds. Many top drivers cut their teeth on Minis, and often run at the same meetings as F1, so dads, nieces, sons and daughters all race on the same day.
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So, there you have it. A very brief, pretty shoddy beginners guide to short oval racing in the UK. Every track and promoter has different domestic formulas, there are dozens more I haven't touched on here, and they keep changing/evolving as drivers come and go and as cars get harder to find or cheaper to buy. If you haven't been, look up your local track and get out there when spring hits. Like grumpynortherner says^^ you can see the whole track, and there is more overtaking in one lap of a Brisca race than a season of Formula 1. The pits are open, you can wander about and chat to the drivers. "Proper" motorsport enthusiasts might sometimes look down on oval track racing, but it really is more than caravan jumps on bank holidays (although that is still a crowd-puller for track owners). There is an obvious elephant in the room, and personally I'm not really into banger racing. Bangers are full-contact, basically not hitting the drivers door is the only rule. I do quite like bombers, which is more racy and less wrecky than full contact bangers, nudge and spin rather than follow-ins (where drivers ram opponents into the outer wall, or other cars) make for better racing and longer-lasting cars. Some bomber meets do end in a demolition derby. Have a fabulous picture of a big Jag doing the business at Buxton, nabbed from the Buxton Raceway facebook page. Wire wheel!
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Those are super pics Mr Grumpy. You can have bonus points for including some converted coach race transporters too. Ha the old transporters - that was a Plaxton bodied AEC 760 - fully loaded with the car, spare wheels & tyres - spare everything else too with exception of the engine - tools & old diesel welder - front converted to part seats, part small kitchen galley and part sleeping accommodation + the team - and thing would still head down the M1 when booted at 70 MPH + Found a few more pics - apologies for the quality they are pics of pics One of the old car This bit was quite important It's not the first time that we loaded up bent either - or axle-less come to that New car (my paintwork) & the team - I'm on the far right and that pic is a minimum of 30 + years ago
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Last Edit: Feb 2, 2019 15:20:11 GMT by Deleted
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ll keep the end up for the banger boys! that estelle was a proper giggle , went over at least once a meet! must dig out some old prints and get them scanned.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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ll keep the end up for the banger boys! Good man! It was bmcnut's Dad's A60 pictures that prompted me to make this thread. If it races in a circle I want to see them!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Brother Kev and I got into oval racing in the early '70s. Local tracks near us in Derbyshire/South Yorkshire ran 'Bomber Cars'... bangers with a fair bit of armouring. Some wild creations appeared and things got out of hand as lightly armoured cars ended up racing things built like F1 stockcars. When the Chesterfield Club folded, some drivers went to the bombers at long Eaton Stadium, others to F1 & 2 stock cars and many, like us took up grasstracking. Kev's Mk 1 Lotus Cortina was particularly successful in that. Later the engine went into My VW Karmann Ghia on a Hewland adapter plate. Kev had bought an Anglia hot rod racer to reshell the Cortina but decided to give it a go on the tarmac at Buxton's High Edge Raceway. That led us into years of hot rod racing at Buxton and Hednesford mainly but with visits to Wisbech, Skegness, Cleethorpes and Brafield (Northampton between '79 and '86. in Anglias, an Avenger then Sunbeams The hot rods became 'wallet racing' and we eventually looked for a cheaper formula. That was 'stock rods'.. then up to 1300cc cars with limited tuning. One of the cars we used for that was a 1294cc SIMCA 1000SR, which started a craze that's still going on in the Ward family. We found all the tuning gear from 'dead' SIMCA rally and race cars that was beyond the stock rod rules so found better shells and went sprinting & hillclimbing with some success. I then had several years in Classic Saloons on the big circuits in SIMCA 1000 Rallyes. Around the turn of the century, I was supposed to be retiring from the track but resurfaced at Buxton on the ovals, ending up with a creation based on a Talbot Samba but with much of the structure/running gear from a 309 for their short lived front wheel drive Hot rod class. I'll dig out the photos. Some of them I may have posted before in another thread. Bomber cars at Chesterfield... Spectators on pit shale tip. Black dust everywhere Club should have got sponsorship from a soap manufacturer. Beetle built by local Vw/Buggy specialist Anglia hot rod My first ever hot rod race... non contact ? more photos to follow...
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The Oval Racing Threadretrolegends
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I used to love going to Coventry, especially in the last few years of it being open when they ran the Heritage Stox, such a shame it’s closed. I still go to Skeggy Stadium if I get the chance when I’m on the East Coast. I had a thread on here a few years back with pictures taken at the original Trent Raceway at Needwood near Burton on Trent back in the ‘80s. Here’s the link if anyone is interested. forum.retro-rides.org/thread/159738/banger-stocks-pics-trent-racewayGreat thread idea, love Stockers and oval racing is very underrated, I still watch NASCAR when I get the chance. .
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I started racing back in 1996. I lived within a few miles of Pembrey Motorsport Centre. I worked there as a teenager when I was in college then uni and when I left uni the guys from Hednesford Raceway had started racing in Pembrey as a winter series. They didn't use the whole circuit, just from the startline, down to the hairpin, round the next corner then back through a hole in the wall onto the start/finish straight. As it was really a set of 3 corners and not an oval, they called it Tri Oval racing. Saturday afternoon was practice, and then the Sunday was racing. Either 2 or 3 heats and a final, I can't remember now. There was also classes for autograss cars as they were also in their off season which were really popular. As well as all the oval classes and autograss classes there was also a rally car class. This is what I raced in, in my mk2 Escort. That was until I rolled it on the hairpin on Saturday practice whilst "dabbling" with my younger brother. It was only lightly damaged with a little dent in the roof so I taped the windscreen back in as it popped out unbroken and raced it for the rest of the season. At the end of the season I bought a mk1 Escort for £100 (which I still have) and transferred everything into that for the next season. Hednesford also ran some one off race weekends at Llandow. Again with autograss and rally car classes. I did about 4 of these twice in the mk1 Escort and twice in autograss cars (class 2 mk2 Escort and class6 Astra get which I've still got). Sadly I've not got many of the photos as my ex took them years ago when we split. I do have a couple of photos as a memento- one action shot and one of all the panels I smashed up in the noncontact racing ( I've actually still got all the panels too). Good times, good atmosphere, good racing.
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Last Edit: Feb 2, 2019 18:22:27 GMT by jonsey
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ll keep the end up for the banger boys! Good man! It was bmcnut's Dad's A60 pictures that prompted me to make this thread. If it races in a circle I want to see them! I think number 111 is a beautiful bit of kit had a good look around it at Buxton When having a look around at the capri's and 3 door sierras F.I.L fp likened it to my driveway because of car choice
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Last Edit: Feb 2, 2019 18:47:58 GMT by fordperv
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Brilliant pictures and memories. I have completely overlooked grasstrack. scmick you have some quality stuff, always pleased to see it. I think number 111 is a beautiful bit of kit had a good look around it at Buxton [/quote] Very true, but the competition is close behind (or in front) Mondeo draped over saloon stock chassis (I think) V8 Rover powered Lexus .... the times, they are a-changing. Although I still love the old Ford stuff.
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Well this thread got awesome very quickly. Great to see oval racing getting a bit of appreciation on here, its got a wonderful history. Escorts don't get any cooler I beleive this was Brandshatch This was brands. They raced bangers there too, beleive it or not. Best era of hotrods.
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Ho Generallee - what have you done !!! - You have me looking up all the places that we used to race at (I will list them later when I dig out some more pics) In the meantime wouldn't you know it - there's a website listing all the defunct small ovals / speedway / stock car circuits simonlewis.com/sc5.html
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Never knew Cross in Hand had a raceway - only live a mile away now and used to live even closer.
Used to go to Arlington and Angmering. No pics though.
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Found a few more I think this is Sheffield So the tracks has explained earlier we travelled everywhere to the tracks although 'Brisca' F1 was predominately a Northern based sport but the Dutch & New Zealand race the same formula - tracks that we raced at + some that I spectated at are listed below the ones marked * I believe are still hosting the Formula but the rest have gone mainly to the development of a supermarket or a DIY chain Hartlepool Newton on Aycliffe Newcastle - only ever raced there once Nelson - Lancashire Blackburn Bolton Rochdale Manchester Belle Vue - the old stadium (Demolished in a knee jerk reaction has the entire stands were made largely of wood and after the tragic fire at the Bradford Valley Parade football ground - the days of timber built stadiums were numbered) - they still race around the corner on a separate track at Belle Vue through but nowhere near the atmosphere of the old place Manchester White City - was a tarmac track towards the end of it's days - then demolished all but the façade which is now restored and provides the frontage of a retail park Buxton * Bradford - Odsel Stadium - Quick track Sheffield - Owlerton Stadium * Was the local track for us Crewe - You needed a strong car to survive Crewe but it was a quick shale track Cleethorpes Skegness * Scunthorpe Hednesford * - Quick tarmac track in the days Coventry - Sadly now gone but was a legendry shale track Boston Long Eaton Leicester Mildenhall * Kings Lynn * Northampton * Birmingham * Stoke * Peterborough We'd think nothing of going to Coventry on a Sat afternoon to race that night - load up then off to the chippee - then drive across the country through the night to Skegness - a few hours kip before getting the car out of the transporter and doing the repairs (always required) - race that afternoon - load up at 4 and then head off to race at either Boston, Mildenhall or Kings Lynn on Sunday night - load up and get back home at 2 in the morning - knackered - then back up at 6 for work on Monday morning - those were the days
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Last Edit: Feb 3, 2019 14:44:17 GMT by Deleted
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Great pictures & stories! shame all the grass roots type racing seems to be disapearing
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