zackpl
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Nov 15, 2018 22:10:02 GMT
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Hi, another eBay purchase and a new project. This time another BMW, sharknose 5 series from 1983. Nice colour, interior a bit tired but saveable. Mechanically not bad apart from leaking brake lines at the back and ridiculous low suspension giving no suspension at all. What BMW decoder says about this car? VIN WBADA3203D7931678 Type Code 4132 E Series E28 () Series 5 Type LIM Model 525 I (EUR) Steering RL Doors 4 Engine M30 Displacement 2.50 Power 150 Drive HECK Transmission MECH Colour LAPISBLAU (173) Upholstery (0170) Prod Date 1983-06-02 L812A National version Great Britain S300A Central locking with antitheft system S311 ELEKTRISCHER BEIFAHRERSPIEGEL S351 WAERMESCHUTZGLAS BRAUN, RUNDUM S411A Window lifts,electric,front/rear S850A Dummy-SALAPA So not highly speced car but nice colour combo and a stick this is all I need. What I don’t need is plenty of ... rust lol This has no sunroof but has plenty of worm inside the sills, front floors affected as well, the worse is the nose and front panel though. She saved me the rear panel as it’s quite clean. Had to rearrange the space to make some room for this, when parked inside it was time to lift it up on pair of jack stands running on castor wheels. Easy task but not in this case due to very low front, suspecting some cheap mods by a previous users, chop, chop perhaps? So with a help of three jacking lifts it was raised and mobile axle carriers used. Stripping time! Removed the front seats, door cardboards, carpet and rear bench. Rear bumper removed (shame as this was scratched badly by someone in the past, probably with a steel wool with attempt to clean it), front bumper and front valance panel as well(face lift on this one). While there I fixed non operational rear windows, the glass de attached by themselves so had to re install them, after applying a grease on the runners they work smoothly now again. Fixed non operational blower heater as well. Miraculously clean rear panel And damaged chrome surface on rear bumper
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Last Edit: Aug 29, 2021 18:14:06 GMT by zackpl
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djefk
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Nov 15, 2018 22:56:41 GMT
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I had an A reg one of these, exact same model as yours: 525i manual. It was a formidable beast that could hit 125mph no problem but still return over 30 mpg if driven at under 80 on the motorway.
You’ll need a proper spring and shock kit for it, I can’t recall whether the one on mine was 60mm for sure - I think it was - it made the ride firm but still lovely, plus it vastly improved the road holding.
I swapped out my manky interior for lovely leather seats with fold-down arms on the fronts - highly recommended!!
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zackpl
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Nov 15, 2018 23:07:32 GMT
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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2018 0:16:04 GMT by zackpl
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Nov 15, 2018 23:21:27 GMT
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I have a lot of respect for you guys. Tackling this kind of Swiss cheese is in my books a great effort. But if you have the skills to pull this repair of you doing well and end up with a great car. I used to have a 528 and a 535i. Both were really great cars. Unfortunately the 535i was a massive rust bucket.
Good luck
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zackpl
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rblote - thanks! They are great indeed, I think they hold up against the time quite well, rust is major problem though. I had to cut a part of outer sill, straightening piece for jacking point and lower base of A post to get better access to the area. Not only the floor was affected but also inner sill so cutting all was the best option. Lower part of A post and straightener will be welded back on when the floor will be finished. Outer sill, bottom of A post and straightener cut out for easier access to affected inner sill
And all rust cut out
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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2018 0:05:05 GMT by zackpl
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bsd
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Quite surprised at the state of the floor! I have an '86 528i, think I may have to lift the carpet and see what's lurking... Cracking start and I'm glad you're giving the attention it needs to ensure it survives. Hope you have lots of fun in it once done and please keep the updates coming.
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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2018 0:37:20 GMT by bsd
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zackpl
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Then it was time to make some repair panels. When I got the car I’ve received leftovers of drivers side sill repair panel. Not that bad quality but as a source of ready bends and angles it’s perfect. The part of floor acceding to inner sill was cut out from donor panel at exact needed angle, the same with a long piece to repair inner sill which had to be curved on the top to meet remaining part of inner sill. This was sourced from donor panel as well. The area where inner sill joins with outer sill with a flange is common rust trap. Due to wrong positioning of lifting equipment these two parts originally spot welded split and crack allowing water to get inside this promotes rust to floor as well. My trusty Cebora PortaMig was out. Tackled with inner sill repair first. [ url=https://ibb.co/nqWVEf] [/url] Tack welded it from inside then fully welded from outside, welds sealed with Dynamax sealer. Lower part for A post welded back on place and welds grinded smooth, this is where the wing is mounted flat to flat. Then a piece adjoining the floor to the inner sill was made. Also sourced from donor panel 500mm long, 20x20mm square. Used joggler toll to pinch several holes to pool weld together with inner sill repaired part. Then I cut a piece of donor sill, had to flatten this to make a patch for floor. All welded, floor piece from underneath as well. Now time to sort out two holes on A post visible on pics a bit higher to repaired floor, clean the welds, weld back stranghtener for jacking point and close the sill with sill outer panel (pool welded with inner sill). I will flood it with cavity wax at the end. bsd - other side is similar but a bit smaller. Enjoying this kind of work. What helps and make it easier is proper, quality tools and equipment. I managed to acquire some but the list is never ending lol. For example I’ve already sent a letter to Santa Claus. I’m asking for a new welding mask as my present one is old, auto lens not working right and is not comfy to wear due to bulky not close to face enough design. I’m dreaming about Space View mask, well they say dreams come true!
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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2018 1:08:10 GMT by zackpl
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Nice work there, Be nice when finished with the satisfaction of you knowing it's done properly. Used to have an E28 528i Auto, nice cars, well worth the effort, Looking forward to future updates.
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BMW E39 525i Sport BMW E46 320d Sport Touring (now sold on.) BMW E30 325 Touring (now sold on.) BMW E30 320 Cabriolet (Project car - currently for sale.)
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Nice. I've got an e28 project I use daily. These are truly great cars.
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Mark
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Nov 17, 2018 10:19:15 GMT
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Got to love an E28. My pal did a lovely s54 swap and built a kind of restomod M5. I was a glorious thing but he couldn't resist a big wad of cash someone offered him for it.
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E36 BMW 318is saloon (rare as a hens false tooth) VW Caddy Maxi 2010 (usually full of Labradors)
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zackpl
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Nov 21, 2018 13:46:44 GMT
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Thanks for above comments guys. E28 is such a nice shape, simplicity with a proper Bavarian remarks, shark nose front end, double round headlights, C pillar like ice hokey bat. Had some time spent on Lapis this week. Passenger side front floor and sill repaired and closed with outer sill panel, jacking point and floor stranghtener often mistaken as a jacking point. Made these for both sides where floor stranghtener meets A pillar. Then it was time to switch sides, this wasn’t looking optimistic. Removed the wire loom running behind, separated the sockets and removed central locking module mounted behind A pillar as well. With a rotary brush on a grinder cleaned the area and cut all rust out. On this side the floor flange for inner sill was good enough to keep it so had to start with opening the sill and removing stranghtener for jacking point. The rusty sections removed were saved for templates and dimensions. Started with repairing inner sill first, extended this part to become A pillar foundation. Drilled holes ina few places for pool welding and joined it with floor flange. Then I made floor section and joined it with extended inner sill repair bit. So it left me with part of outer sill and outer A post sections to repair. At this stage it looked like this
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Last Edit: Nov 21, 2018 15:31:57 GMT by zackpl
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zackpl
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Nov 21, 2018 15:41:39 GMT
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Last Edit: Nov 21, 2018 16:56:11 GMT by zackpl
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Nov 21, 2018 15:58:08 GMT
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Nice work, always liked these five series cars Good luck with the resto, well worth doing mate
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Last Edit: Nov 21, 2018 15:58:23 GMT by Mercdan68
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zackpl
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Nov 21, 2018 17:01:45 GMT
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Thanks! All above was a warm up reallly, worst worm to cut and more complicated sections to restore are on the rear. For a preview, passenger side. Visible previous repairs hiding rust underneath. Rear beam to drop for sure, the same with brake/fuel lines. Waiting for repair sections to handle this I ordered abroad.
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Nov 21, 2018 19:59:05 GMT
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I thought mine was bad! Good to see another e28 being saved, too many are broken up for part.
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zackpl
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These cars like to hide surprises. While waiting for the parts I repaired inner wheel arch. Cleaned infected area and drilled spot welds. Rust proofed everything behind and prepared this piece to replace rotten bit Fully welded Then welds were grinded down. The hole above was repaired along with a new bracket for plastic cover situated on the left. Welds sealed and area covered in zinc primer.
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Lovely work, Looking forward to ongoing updates.
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BMW E39 525i Sport BMW E46 320d Sport Touring (now sold on.) BMW E30 325 Touring (now sold on.) BMW E30 320 Cabriolet (Project car - currently for sale.)
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zackpl
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Nov 29, 2018 12:19:07 GMT
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Here it is 🤗. Full lenght sills arrived, will use rears only as fronts are finished. Not that bad quality as previously mentioned but some dimensions don’t match genuine items. Good timing with delivery as I just dropped the rear beam. Started with drivers side rear first. This was recently “repaired” but after having a closer look It turned to be not acceptable by poor quality. The whole rear sill was bent and going to deep inside. Cut the outer sill first. Identified the welds and cut out it with a section of door shut. Just look at the amount of bond here... No better on the other side, no rust proofing and overlap done wrong. As you can see above I cut the inner arch angle bit as well. It was bogged with a 3 different pieces. This revealed the inner sill from outside, jack point stranghtener was cut out by someone before but not welded back. Had to cut it all including part of the floor to make repair to the inner sill possible. From underneath I found more grot Previous repair to mounting point just fall in pieces while I was cleaning the area with wire brush on a grinder. Because I couldn’t remove the long bolt I had to do it from outside. Cleaned and rust proofed the exposed plate holding the bolt/pin and prepared inner sill repair section. Joined with floor from inside the cabin and fully welded From outside I reconstructed the stranghtener Another angle from the door shut area Sealed the welds inside the cabin and from outside to protect inner sill welds. Then after carefully taking measurements I cut out this bit from Klokkerholm panel Had to drill a few holes on the bottom for pool welds. They will join outer sill panel with inner sill. Fully welded, looking from above And from outside
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Last Edit: Nov 29, 2018 12:19:40 GMT by zackpl
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zackpl
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Nov 29, 2018 13:28:36 GMT
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And there’s where not good things about aftermarket panels arise. The bit where wheel arch meets with the outer sill is not wide enough, the top (wheel arch) is wider than klokkerholm panel bit. Tried to center it to save door shut area from excessive amount of filler to be used. Ovearall not too bad for £40 a piece. Welds grinded down and smoothened Inner wheel arch angle section made from one piece and pool welded with the inner wheel arch. Part of the wheel arch covering mounting bolt also was cut out and replaced with new metal. I made a new plate securing the rear beam mounting bolt from the underneath. Had to be careful when cutting the hole for the bolt in the center otherwise I would find myself making another one. This is where I got stucked really due to not available cutting equipment for drilling such a large hole of about 38mm in dia. Had to cut it with a grinder and improvise Reinforcing this area with this And fully welded Then it was time for sealing and painting in zinc primer So just jacking point to fabricate and weld to the sill left to complete this end of the sill.
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Last Edit: Nov 29, 2018 13:34:57 GMT by zackpl
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man thats a lot of work in short order...very nice to see it taking shape again!
jP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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