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Jan 29, 2019 12:29:03 GMT
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Well, on here there are "I'm only tarting it up a bit", there are builds, there are projects, there are "Not a project no, definitely not" and there are one or two truely inspirational builds like this ... Going to need a bigger (  ) engine with all that extra metal work though |
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Last Edit: Jan 29, 2019 12:41:04 GMT by westbay
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Holy Cow.....talk about innovation with age old ideas....so cool!
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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Jan 30, 2019 13:10:27 GMT
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If you fit compressed shocks to it, you could pull a pin and it would gently open itself..
Or, if you used uprated ones, slam aggressively into that cyclist taking up the lane.. ;p
Might be a bit hard to retract, though.
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Jan 30, 2019 18:06:23 GMT
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telescoping sliders? I love the idea! what a cool solution, Dave! will the pushout need support legs once extended, or is it not going out that far? this is really looking great. JP (ps.if I misunderstood the whole thing, uhhh, its still pretty darn epic!) Are you going to weld the channels to the bottom of the floor or the top? and, I bet if you geared that motor right, it would push that unit out. I also have two big linear actuators that are screw types. I hawked these from the town bin. they are designed for electric awnings. can convert to 12v..... JP Hi JP, the push out at the back will definately be needing some type of support legs as it goes out about 1m in length and i don´t fancy waking up on the floor next morning. I´ve still got to fabricate a big drawer in the boot so that i can use all the space under the bed so i´ll probably end up welding some legs to that. I´m still not sure but once i get stuck in i´m sure i´ll come up with something. The slide out on the side shouldn´t be needing any but i´ll have to wait a bit to see if my construction is strong enough without having any legs to support the weight. Regarding the channels they´re going on the floor, i´ll explain later mate can´t compete wit that mate, but at least mines mobile. That is if they let me back in to the country after all the Brexit mucking around 
Well, on here there are "I'm only tarting it up a bit", there are builds, there are projects, there are "Not a project no, definitely not" and there are one or two truely inspirational builds like this ... Going to need a bigger ( ) engine with all that extra metal work though Thanks for the compliment mate, much appreciated and it shouldn´t be too difficult to upgrade to the 150bhp 5cylinder as long as i use the right gearbox and brakes i should be alright TÜV wise. Holy Cow.....talk about innovation with age old ideas....so cool! JP old ideas from an old git.... Youth alone is not a guarantee for quality mate  If you fit compressed shocks to it, you could pull a pin and it would gently open itself.. Or, if you used uprated ones, slam aggressively into that cyclist taking up the lane.. ;p Might be a bit hard to retract, though. Not a bad idea, my first thought was to use a long threaded bar, weld a couple of nuts to it, weld it all to the door and use my cordless drill to shove it in and out. Not very sophisticated i know but i do like simpel constructions (that don´t need an electrician) Once i´ve got it all mechanically sound i´ll have a play with i few other ideas i´ve got. Time for a little update methinks. I´ve taken a couple of pics of the right hand slide mechanism and when i look at the pics it becomes even more confusing so i´ll try to explain. The 30mm boxsection will be welded to the door, it slides in and out of the 35mm boxsection which will slide in and out of the angleiron frame that i´ve welded to the floor.  That hopefully takes care of the door sliding in and out. In the next pic you´ll see i´ve welded in a bit of angle iron with a support that will eventually take the weight of the kitchen. Inbetwen the two is a 16mm gap (where the my measuring stick is jammed inbetween)  this is where the floor will end up going and as the kitchen is attached to the door once i push it all out i´ll have a level floor without any sliding mechanism visable and more importantly no step to trip over. In the next pic you might unerstand more why i´ve gone down this route. With the bed fully in and it not being foldable i´m going to have to build something different for the left hand slide out mechasnism.  As far as the door goes i´ll be ok, i´ll just copy the right hand one as it´s all underneath the floor but i need to attach the litchen to the door and the bed is in the way. But i´ve got that covered, i´ll show you what i´ve got planned as soon as i pick up the cupboard i´ll be using for the kitchen. Thanks for all your support chaps, it helps a lot especially when it´s chuffing freezing out there and the motivation is low. Dave |
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Jan 30, 2019 18:25:16 GMT
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for someone with 'low motivation' you are making a lot of progress - what happens when you're properly motivated?
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He pulls a camper put of the lake and welds it all solid, first! I'm in this to see how you end up getting around the complications that will no doubt arise in this sort of build. Take my suggestions/comments with a grain of salt. If it gives you another angle of perspective, great! If not, at least it bumped it to the top so someone else might see it and contribute. |
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for the other support on the side door, can you make mounting points for a mirror image set up and simply attach the other support when the bed is out of the way. (not sure if there is room to simply hinge the other support with the "kitchen" in place on the door.
in our old camper trailer, a pop up, the kitchen unit hinged horizontally...the lower cabinets held a few pots and pans, the water storage and all the hoses from the sink and stove. the upper section was more cabinets and the sink and stove. This all folded down under the two beds when they were pushed all the way in. (if this makes any sense at all)
tables become beds with cushions on them, beds slide out, doors hang from the ceiling and hinge into place.......
on the slide outs, the bed supports were simply two hinged rods attached to the bottom of the beds that swung down when you pulled the beds out. These rods were placed over two studs on the bumper...very simple, very light weight, very strong. I just had to get under there and lift the bed up a little and the supports would drop down again when we were ready to break camp.....
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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trimtechniques
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Oh wow! What a fantastic build. Great to witness someone who has the vision and skill to pull this off. I can't wait to see the finished van.
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for someone with 'low motivation' you are making a lot of progress - what happens when you're properly motivated? It´s not so much low motivation that´s the problem mate it´s just chuffing cold out there and it´s so much easier just to stay in the warm house and put your feet up one i´ve knocked off work, but once i´m out here it´s alright. I always try to to leave myself a nice and easy job to start with because when i know i´ve got a crappy job to start with it doesn´t make it any easier. He pulls a camper put of the lake and welds it all solid, first! I'm in this to see how you end up getting around the complications that will no doubt arise in this sort of build. Take my suggestions/comments with a grain of salt. If it gives you another angle of perspective, great! If not, at least it bumped it to the top so someone else might see it and contribute. No mate, i take all the suggestioons seriously, you wouldn´t believe how many good ideas i´ve been able to pick up on here, There´s a lot of very talented people here in Readers Rides
for the other support on the side door, can you make mounting points for a mirror image set up and simply attach the other support when the bed is out of the way. (not sure if there is room to simply hinge the other support with the "kitchen" in place on the door. in our old camper trailer, a pop up, the kitchen unit hinged horizontally...the lower cabinets held a few pots and pans, the water storage and all the hoses from the sink and stove. the upper section was more cabinets and the sink and stove. This all folded down under the two beds when they were pushed all the way in. (if this makes any sense at all) tables become beds with cushions on them, beds slide out, doors hang from the ceiling and hinge into place....... on the slide outs, the bed supports were simply two hinged rods attached to the bottom of the beds that swung down when you pulled the beds out. These rods were placed over two studs on the bumper...very simple, very light weight, very strong. I just had to get under there and lift the bed up a little and the supports would drop down again when we were ready to break camp..... JP i know what you mean JP, cheers. I think i´ve got it sorted but more of that in the next couple of days. The good thing when you spend hours after hours grinding of your iffy welds is you have time to think about how to do it properly I know it doesn´t look like a kitchen yet but i picked this up the other day....  i quite like the idea that you can close it all up and hide the cooker and sink that i´ll be fitting.
I´ll be changing it´s colour a bit so that it matches the rest of the inteior and there´s no way the fridge will fit in there but i´m sure i´ll come up with something.
 and with a hinged leg or two i might even be able to get it to fit in there as well. Oh wow! What a fantastic build. Great to witness someone who has the vision and skill to pull this off. I can't wait to see the finished van. Thanks for your vote of confidence mate, i haven´t pulled it of yet but i´m getting there slowly. I spent the whole day getting the "hole" ready so that i can open the door in the next couple of days ...another boring detail pic but if you look closely you´ll see that i´ve strengthened up the top between the B & C posts  with that i place i then had something to weld the lip to that´ll take the door seal.  If that metal strip looks familiar your right. ´ve reused the old window frame that was in the side panel that i chopped out
the welds need cleaning up a bit but the top half is now more or less done
I´ll do the bottom once i´m sure that my sliding mechanism works properly.
Cheers, Dave |
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Well it looks like i´ve got a slide out that actually slides out...   it´s by no way finished yet and it´s all a bit rough and ready but at least it works.  On the outside i need to tidy up the B and C posts and the door needs to lose the indentation where the handle was..  but the door gaps are looking ok even after it´s been slid out a few times so i´m happy with that.  The door itself is a flimsey so i´ll need another sliding mechanism at the top somewhere to stabilize it a bit and i need to grease the bottom slides to see if it all frees off a bit because at the moment it´s catching a bit when i try to push it out. Cheers, Dave |
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congrats!...
I like the solution to the bottom support bedside. nice and simple. I would imagine the top support does not have to be as substantial?
looks great!
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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congrats!... I like the solution to the bottom support bedside. nice and simple. I would imagine the top support does not have to be as substantial? looks great! JP Cheers JP, well it was nice and simple but i wasn´t happy with the way it was working under load.
So i ripped it all out and started from scratch again. Picturewise i´ve not got much to show for it but i spent all my evenings this week redoing it all. The boxsection still slides in and out but i´ve stregthened it with a length of angle iron which stops it warping under load and therefore jamming.
I can also use the angle iron to screw the kitchen to and not have to worry about it catching when i fill the fridge with beer.  It´s not quite finished yet because i ran out of welding gas this morning and as it´s still too cold for primer i thought i´d get the angle grinder warmed up and chop a few bits of plastic out of the roof...........  Sounds easy but it took me longer to measure it all out than it did to cut the hole out. To cut a long story short the sunroof fits like it was made for the T4 ambulance   It was a risk buying it because i wasn´t sure if the curvature front to back and side to side was right but it is, i got lucky and i´m chuffed to bits....   So if anyone has a T4 Abulance out there and fancies fitting a sunroof an electric panorama sunroof out of a Renault Twingo fits like a dream
I´ve still got some prep work to do but i´ll hopefully get that sorted tomorrow so that i can finish off the slide out next week when i get some more welding gas.
Cheers, Dave
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Hi!
Electric sunroof out of a Twingo?
Excellent,Sir!
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Last Edit: Feb 10, 2019 9:23:34 GMT by totti
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Feb 10, 2019 10:21:07 GMT
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I finally see where this is going...and I like it.
Chapeau sir.
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Feb 10, 2019 16:58:18 GMT
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Hi! Electric sunroof out of a Twingo? Excellent,Sir! I wouldn´t have done it in a valuable old van but it´s only a T4 I finally see where this is going...and I like it. Chapeau sir. Danke Paul Here´s a little update from todays´antics. I´d only provisionly fitted the sunroff yesterday so i cleaned up the edges of the hole, dropped in the sunroof for the last time, filled the small gap between the roof and the sunroof with some Sika and screwed in the internal frame...   the gap then disapeared and it´s watertight so that´ll do me. When i get round to doing the interior i´ll make a headlining to fit so it looks half decent and connect up the original Twingo switches. As i still haven´t got any welding gas i thought i´d make the most of the afternoon and start getting the sun canopy to fit. I´ve had plenty of time to think about how to do it and the only way to do it properly is to take out the cupboards from the inside to give me some room to work.
Going...
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gone, for the time being. I´ll hopefully be able to refit most of it once i´ve got the canopy in.
  My plan is to fit it so that you can´t see it from the outside. I know it´s a lot of work but doing it this way does have one or two advantages. With the T4 having a plastic roof, just screwing it to the outside is not really an option and with all the cupboards out of the way i can weld in a frame to support it all and most importantly get rid of that old insulation. Oh and by the look of things i got lucky again...  ...looks like it´s all going to fit I´ll make up the frame and then make up a box to ensure the inside of the van stays dry. When that´s all done i´ll then cut a hole in the side, glue the bit i´ve cut out to the canopy so that the old bit of roof then closes the hole once it´s wound back in. Well that´s the cunning plan. Cheers, Dave |
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Feb 10, 2019 17:08:00 GMT
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with all these push/pull/pop out addendum , ordinary front doors just aren't going to cut the mustard , they will have to be gullwing or lambo...at the very least!!
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Suicide doors!
Just need to work out how to convert the spare wheel in to a brazier/bbq grill and you're sorted.
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eurogranada
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You'll be pushing buttons and pulling slide out's for half an hour just to set up shop on a campsite! Still hell of a lot faster than putting up a tent though...;-)
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Feb 11, 2019 16:03:17 GMT
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Simply epic levels of skill and design. I'm loving this... but it's not helping my wanting a T4!
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Feb 12, 2019 14:02:30 GMT
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Love it.... Thoroughly enjoying the innovation and skills...
Can't wait to see it finished... But I'm enjoying the process too😁
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) engine with all that extra metal work though 
