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This is gonna be gooood!! Hope so mate, cheers  Oh,Oh! First i thought this will be a simple T4 with a bed and small kitchen inside... ....but now ...i shouldt know you better,mate! Looking forward to this....! Greet to be honest mate it is only a T4 with a bed and a small kitchen in it  mmmmmmyyyeeeah.... ok ... got it now. how are you thinking of sealing between the pull out "mini me" and the tailgate aperture once your apendage has been extended....flanges and seals? yeah something like that, i haven´t worked it out yet but i´m sure i´ll come up with something. What, not even the nurse?? Seems a bit of a waste... i was thinking more of the Hattie Jacques type of nurse and less Pamela Anderson  I carried on with the right hand window thingy this afternoon. The first pic looks pretty much the same as it did yesterday...  but i´ve now finished the runner so that it´ll take the window. I´ve basically welded up a few lengths of angle iron...   one is there to stop the whole lot tipping back as it´s going to be top heavy(or should i say back heavy) and the other two are there to take the window frame and to stop it catching on the support frame once i push it all back in. It´s getting there slowly but the corner of the roof needs modifying so that it´ll all fit properly.  It doesn´t look too bad in that pic but it´s jammed in there and needs to slide in and out without catching. That´s the job for tomorrow. Cheers, Dave |
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Last Edit: Jan 7, 2019 19:08:32 GMT by Oldbus
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Think it'll have a bit of flex once it's weighed down with bed,etc?
Probably not much, with how much angle you're attaching..
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brilliant!....
can you reshape the roof a little at that crease, or will you end up modifying the opening?
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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Jan 10, 2019 18:23:35 GMT
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Think it'll have a bit of flex once it's weighed down with bed,etc? Probably not much, with how much angle you're attaching.. ..and the amount of mig wire that´s gone into the floor should stop any flexing too brilliant!.... can you reshape the roof a little at that crease, or will you end up modifying the opening? jP I´m making the slide out fit the van and not the other way round, just incase i get bored of it after a couple of years and redo it all. I´ve chopped down the side panel and tailgate so that they should fit...  the window panel now weighs in at 5 kgs, even when you add the weight of the side window that´s not too bad. If i´d have made it out of wood i don´t think it´d be much lighter. I haven´t weighed the tailgate yet but there´s not much left to weigh....  I´ve also just made up the left hand runner so that it´ll take the other window....  once that panel has been reduced down to the min. i can start building the slide out properly and see if it all works. Fingers crodssed eh. Cheers, Dave |
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Last Edit: Jan 12, 2019 19:36:08 GMT by Oldbus
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Jan 12, 2019 19:35:47 GMT
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I got a full day in the garage today and managed to get quite a bit done. First job was to get the bed frame finished.  At first it wasn´t having it and jammed about half way in, but after a bit of tweeking it now slides in and out without any effort.  and most imortantly it passed the weight test (read my hanging on the back trying to break it all) Next up was to chop down the left hand rear window to size, good thing is once you´ve done one side the other goes a lot quicker.  I then tacked in the righthand window frame into place and have started getting the tailgate to fit properly.  This is what it looks like from the inside, imagine a small roof on it and some old wood to cover it all on the inside and it should look ok. My aim is not to see any metalwork from the inside once it´s done..  It´s not pulled out all the way but you get the idea hopefully.  Looks like someone´s reversing a T25 out of the back of my T4 Cheers, Dave |
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Jan 12, 2019 19:45:01 GMT
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jan 12, 2019 22:46:46 GMT
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love this, the engineering is awesome keep it up.
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I see you are using those "copper screw pin thingies" at the rear corners of your construction, I forgot the actual name. I always wondered what their advantage in comparison to a normal screw is, but I don´t know what to google for? Please help the novice. |
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Last Edit: Jan 13, 2019 8:49:04 GMT by braaap
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Cleco is your missing word. Impressive work on the T4! ADS made these conversions for the T25. ADS Inventor |
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Last Edit: Jan 13, 2019 9:43:42 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 13, 2019 18:05:55 GMT
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I´m not sure yet how i´ll be doing the interior but something like that would do for the cupboards and headlining. I´ll be insulating the van using Armacell or something similar and do fancy doing the bottom half of the interior in wood or something similar even if it does weigh a bit.  love this, the engineering is awesome keep it up. Thank you muchly sir, will do Those Cleco pins are great, i used to use self tappers but discovered them on the Frost stand at the Technoklassiker in Essen decades ago and bought a load. The good thing is they´re quick and you can use them over and over again without damaging the hole you´ve drilled. I can highly recomend them. Cleco is your missing word. Impressive work on the T4! ADS made these conversions for the T25. ADS InventorThat conversion suits the T25 even better than the T4 what with the engine in the back and the T25 being smaller than mine.Thanks for those pics. Time for a little update from todays´antics. I got the left hand side window sorted today....  i decided not just to spot weld it in but completely welded up the whole sides. Took ages and the compressor was up and running for a couple of hours as i needed a lot of air to cool down the welds to avoid warping it all. Sorry for that lousy pic but it all cleaned up quite nicely and you can hardly see the joint.  before i knocked off i started getting the roof ready for fitting. It´s chuffing heavy...  which is hardly surprising when you see how much metal VW used.  As it doesn´t need to support a tailgate anymore i´ll be losing all that along with the roof supports but more of that next time. Cheers, Dave |
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Jan 13, 2019 19:00:32 GMT
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It's now looking a lot lighter than I had first imagined it would be - I had based my initial thoughts on how heavy a tailgate was that I fitted on a newish Transporter that was in for a accident repair a few years ago - but now you have hacked most of the weight out of the panels - it should look very smart once it's all painted up and the windows refitted - now talking of windows and it being a box in which I don't think that curtains would work - are planning to tint them with a film ?
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Last Edit: Jan 13, 2019 19:01:20 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 14, 2019 18:11:28 GMT
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It's now looking a lot lighter than I had first imagined it would be - I had based my initial thoughts on how heavy a tailgate was that I fitted on a newish Transporter that was in for a accident repair a few years ago - but now you have hacked most of the weight out of the panels - it should look very smart once it's all painted up and the windows refitted - now talking of windows and it being a box in which I don't think that curtains would work - are planning to tint them with a film ? I know what you mean mate, i was surprised how much all the panels weghed when i collected them the other week. The good thing is most of the weight is now in the bin ...as with the roof section which i´ve now chopped down to size.  Regarding the windows, i´ll be tinting the windows before they go back in, it´s so much easier doing it on the bench rather than in situ. But i can see a set of cutauins going in there as well, it´s make it all look a bit more comfy and less sterile (well it was an ambulance!) With the roof chopped down to size i just trail fitted it to see if it´ll work as i´d planned.  Although it fits quite nicely it´s way too high and would foul the rear crossbeam once pushed back in, so i need to "adjust" it down a bit. Cheers, Dave |
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Jan 14, 2019 18:59:48 GMT
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Curtains? VW offered press stud (?) curtains for the t4 multivan.
But some people use neodym magnets with their homemade curtains instead.
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Jan 14, 2019 19:04:25 GMT
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magnets work well , did it this way for a "pop on" curtain for the rear window of SWMBO's bongo.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jan 16, 2019 17:11:27 GMT
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Curtains? VW offered press stud (?) curtains for the t4 multivan. But some people use neodym magnets with their homemade curtains instead. magnets work well , did it this way for a "pop on" curtain for the rear window of SWMBO's bongo. I like the magnet idea but they probably wouldn´t pass swimbos quality control and magnets have trouble sticking to plastic and wood. Whatever, they´re not on the "To Do" list just yet but i´ll keep the idea in mind,thanks. Just to bring you up to date, i´ve got the right hand side of the roof done.. This is the view from the inside which be covered up with a headlining.  ..and this is the view from up top...  ...once it´s all painted and spruced up a bit you won´t see the joint hopefully. I´ll crack on with the other side the next couple of evenings and let you know how i get on. Cheers, Dave |
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Jan 20, 2019 15:54:45 GMT
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Well i finished off welding in the roof, it´s all come together quite nicely.. and more importantly it all fits in the hole   One last job before tidying it all up and giving it a lick of paint was to strengthen up the front a bit. With me cutting out most of the original structure it was all a bit flimsy so i chopped a length of boxsection in half and welded it in place...   another advantage of this method is it gives me something to attach the interior panelling to. As it´s way to cold too start painting it all, i thought i´d carry on up front. Before i chopped out the old B post suppout bracket i bodged up a bit of boxsection to keep the B posts in place  and then cut out the left half of the roof support.  I´m chuffed with the space we´ve won and once the sunroof is in it should look ok.
What you can´t see in that pic is that there´s an extra steel frame been fitted to support the roof which will be a big help once i get round fitting the sunroof.
With that out of the way i dismanteld all the electrics as they need to go down below somewhere. I don´t know what it´s all there for but i´m sure i´ll found out once i start rebuilding it all.  All the cables that run up the side of the B post are now disconnected and out of the way for now. I´ll worry about them later but with a bit of luck i won´t be needing most of them.  It was still too cold for paint this morning so i´ve started a new job. Now that the rear slide out/bed thing has worked out well i´ve decided to make another one. This time on the left hand side. Basically i want to slide out the kitchen about 60cm´s to give us a bit more room inside. To do this i need to take out the side panel behind the drivers seat, modify the B post, make up a C post but before i do that i want to strengthen the structure. I think 30x30 boxsection should do quite nicely so i´ve opened up the panels...  and have started to tack the boxsection into place to give it all some strength before i chop the side panel out.   once i´m finished you won´t see any of it as i´ll close it all in and from the outside you´ll only be able to tell that there´s a door there once i pull out the kitchen.
Well that´s the plan anyway.
Sorry if i´ve not explained it well but all will be revealed in the next couple of weeks. Cheers, Dave |
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Jan 20, 2019 16:02:58 GMT
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this is going to out transform a transformer...!!
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jan 20, 2019 16:08:15 GMT
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this is going to out transform a transformer...!! should be good for a laugh or two first time we set it all up. |
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Jan 21, 2019 10:11:10 GMT
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Nice to see a different approach to a camper conversion. Looking good.
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