ChasR
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PD lump (115/130/140)ChasR
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Jul 17, 2018 22:04:05 GMT
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Mine was a B6 and I echo hkr91's advice. In short -Camshaft was shot; despite it being a safe engine. -EPBs went and mine previoiusly had replacement motors -I had the dreaded steering lock problem and mine was an early car ; this makes it potentially a £1k fix as more modules require replacement due to steering lock communication issues in addition to CCM problems -Bushes died; it made the car horrendously unsafe; it would 'twitch' from the rear at 50MPH+, and make rear passengers decorate the seats in a lovely shade of brown... -When the gearbox blew up I scrapped the car; I just couldn't bear throwing more cash at that heap of curse word. Speaking to a breaker (Sanburns) he informed me the 5 speeds blowing up wasn't as unknown as people thought. To make matters worse we bought the car off a mate as a stop-gap car. On the plus side, it did break for spares very quickly. The engine went within days, as did the steering lock. If I had a £1 for everytime I was asked about the EPBs I'd be a very very rich man by now. It's a shame as they are a great car when working, but a royal pain when not. Was yours a 1.9 B6? I initially thought they were all six speed. The rear bushes are a common issue, usually causes uneven wear on the rear tyres as a start. Regarding the EPB, I never use mine anymore. OP, check the passat forums such as ukpassats and on Facebook. Mine was a 2006 B6 1.9 TDI S 105BHP 5 speed. A two owner car. First owner owned it for 2 years, with my colleague owning it for another 4 after that. I had a few 'uncurable issues' A fan that never worked despite the motor being fine. Not even VCDS could say on that one? Nothing's too difficult to fix? I doubt that .
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Last Edit: Jul 17, 2018 22:06:43 GMT by ChasR
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Only mechanical difference to the 130 and 150 engines is the turbo, If you were creative far as know they are bolt on (GT17 rather than GT15). Maybe bigger injectors. They are able for big power. You’ll “enjoy” the ride on cheap coilovers Honda S2000 Air filter (ADH22236 from Blueprint) is the only way to go as you’ll ruin the MAF with an oiled cone, Paper cone sounds great. Decat and middle box gone and she will sound lovely. EGR blanking plate, clean manifold and valve and map it out. Done. If possible I'd find a 130. The galaxies are mostly 130, but I'm loathed to have another Ford. Assume cheapie coilovers are concrete hard? Not so concrete hard, but mega bouncy if you go low. At max height they are ok as 30% stiffer damping. The galaxy is a VW, was in a few and everything is parts bin VW apart from that bloody clock! www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-04-SEAT-ALHAMBRA-1-9-STYLANCE-TDI-5D-129-BHP-DIESEL/222994001097?hash=item33eb7a6cc9%3Ag%3AIiIAAOSwdA5bOXKV&_sacat=9800&_nkw=seat+alhambra+1.9+tdi&_from=R40&rt=nc
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Was yours a 1.9 B6? I initially thought they were all six speed. The rear bushes are a common issue, usually causes uneven wear on the rear tyres as a start. Regarding the EPB, I never use mine anymore. OP, check the passat forums such as ukpassats and on Facebook. Mine was a 2006 B6 1.9 TDI S 105BHP 5 speed. A two owner car. First owner owned it for 2 years, with my colleague owning it for another 4 after that. I had a few 'uncurable issues' A fan that never worked despite the motor being fine. Not even VCDS could say on that one? Nothing's too difficult to fix? I doubt that . I’m lucky that I have VW tech support on speed dial! (Mate in tech support in VW Ireland) and he can solve every problem that I can’t. He tells dealers how to fix cars that they deem unfixable. B6 is old tech now. Latest B8, different story!
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As said earlier Galaxy (Mk1/Mk1p2), Sharan and Alhambra 7M chassis are all a product of the factory in Portugal hence the use of VW Diesel engines in the Ford.
My wife's uncle was on the VAG development team for it. Apparently they took a Chrysler Voyager and supplanted VW running gear to see if it was a viable project.Ford put up a large amount of the funding hence the original Galaxy coming out first.
I'd just go lowering springs if the shocks are good, firms the ride up without overdoing it.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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As said earlier Galaxy (Mk1/Mk1p2), Sharan and Alhambra 7M chassis are all a product of the factory in Portugal hence the use of VW Diesel engines in the Ford. My wife's uncle was on the VAG development team for it. Apparently they took a Chrysler Voyager and supplanted VW running gear to see if it was a viable project.Ford put up a large amount of the funding hence the original Galaxy coming out first. I'd just go lowering springs if the shocks are good, firms the ride up without overdoing it. Those are the kind of stories you never hear, cool! My daily is another product of that AutoEuropa factory in Portugal - the VW Eos. I run FK springs in it with standard shocks (fk-shop.de), and think they’re great. For the 7M chassis they are seventy euros delivered. Very reasonable
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mgmrw
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Jul 18, 2018 10:15:14 GMT
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As said earlier Galaxy (Mk1/Mk1p2), Sharan and Alhambra 7M chassis are all a product of the factory in Portugal hence the use of VW Diesel engines in the Ford. My wife's uncle was on the VAG development team for it. Apparently they took a Chrysler Voyager and supplanted VW running gear to see if it was a viable project.Ford put up a large amount of the funding hence the original Galaxy coming out first. I'd just go lowering springs if the shocks are good, firms the ride up without overdoing it. Those are the kind of stories you never hear, cool! My daily is another product of that AutoEuropa factory in Portugal - the VW Eos. I run FK springs in it with standard shocks (fk-shop.de), and think they’re great. For the 7M chassis they are seventy euros delivered. Very reasonable Brilliant info from both of you, thanks. Lows ain't going to be a priority, however I've read a few towing reviews that mentioned sag/soft rears as well as body roll when towing. So, 30-40mm drop would look cool, and some nice hard springs would aid with lugging weight. As I stated above, this is going to be a proper utility bus. If I can make.it look cool for free or cheap,then it's a bonus.
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mgmrw
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Jul 18, 2018 10:17:33 GMT
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That ones in my watch list, but it's top of budget and 5+ hours from home. There's one on AT, same year and spec, 130k on it in BRG. £1250. That's 3.5hours from home. Mrs is against me going missing for 12+ hours at a time, to "buy wibblepoo" as we have pets, baby etc. So, my search filters are set to "minimal earache" 😂
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mgmrw
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Jul 18, 2018 10:19:56 GMT
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Jul 18, 2018 10:38:29 GMT
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Polish away the rust stains. You’d be surprised what a machine polish and a tenders worth of genuine vw touch up gets you. That’s a sport so better seats. Wheels are standard VAG 5x112 fare (and Audi and Mercedes The engines are canted forward on them I think compared to the 8 degrees back on a Golf. Still easy to work on.
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mgmrw
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Jul 18, 2018 12:14:39 GMT
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Polish away the rust stains. You’d be surprised what a machine polish and a tenders worth of genuine vw touch up gets you. That’s a sport so better seats. Wheels are standard VAG 5x112 fare (and Audi and Mercedes The engines are canted forward on them I think compared to the 8 degrees back on a Golf. Still easy to work on. That was my thoughts exactly..machine polish it. Grind back, rust treat, p38 and blow in the rust spots. Cheers for the information
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Jul 18, 2018 14:18:06 GMT
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I've had Pd 150 Golf and currently have '06 Galaxy with a Pd150. The chocolate cam was actually chocolate lifters which the cam wore through and then was actuating stuff directly! These were replaced with hardened (black top) lifters and then from the factory with harder surfaced lifters. If not dead by now the issue won't rear its head. The 130 is essentially the same lump with smaller inter-cooler and different mapping. I've used Blacksmoke maps on both (£45 and loaded using a Galetto lead) and in fact they did a bespoke one on the Galaxy which deleted the utterly pointless EGR activation. Gave good torque and power with no reliability issues. the 130 will go to 160 without issue and obviously extra torque. The 2.0 litre 16v PD had issue with the (chain driven?) oil pump but there is a conversion to gears apparently.the 1.9 8 valve is just better allround although very slightly less economical. Sharan/alhambra/galaxy of the same shape (mk1 and Mk1 phase 2) suffer with corrosion at sill front and rear as well as rear beam (its not a beam but don't know what to correctly identify it as )mount area so check there. On older ones can have electrical gremlins but you appear to be buying at the 'lower' end of the price scale so I guess you'll not worry too much about annoyances you can live without. They are quite heavy so check control arms, ball joints and drop links all of which are very cheap and easy to change. Given this Ive had a couple of the 7M chassis (made in Portugal at a joint factory) and they really are a good workhorse. Older ones don't have isofix but they did an integral child seat-seat (group 1-3) which can be had for about £50 off the bay of evil. HTH
Cheers, raft of information. As you correctly noted, I'm buying in beater territory. So, the odd bulb that pops or electric windows that don't work.... I'll roll with. It's gonna be an end of life car, tow stuff, move stuff, keep going. Likewise suspension rattles etc will be tolerated. The 115bhp one as dog slowas I imagine? I can't really add to all the great info above, other than to say that my family had a 1998 Alhambra 1.9 diesel (115) for six years and regularly used it to tow our fully loaded caravan. Obviously no road burner but it didn't struggle with towing at all. In fact that car did us really well in general for around 100k, until the timing belt went, causing the engine to curse word itself!
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1972 Triumph 2000 – first car, long-term daily driver and all-rounder, done 65,000 miles in my ownership. Has a tuned 2500 motor and is used for a lot of long-distance touring events 1972 Triumph TR6 – US import, returned to the road in 2019 for the first time since '85! 2004 BMW 330d Touring – general hack, much mapped up goodness
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mgmrw
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Jul 18, 2018 16:34:15 GMT
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Cheers, raft of information. As you correctly noted, I'm buying in beater territory. So, the odd bulb that pops or electric windows that don't work.... I'll roll with. It's gonna be an end of life car, tow stuff, move stuff, keep going. Likewise suspension rattles etc will be tolerated. The 115bhp one as dog slowas I imagine? I can't really add to all the great info above, other than to say that my family had a 1998 Alhambra 1.9 diesel (115) for six years and regularly used it to tow our fully loaded caravan. Obviously no road burner but it didn't struggle with towing at all. In fact that car did us really well in general for around 100k, until the timing belt went, causing the engine to curse word itself! Good to know. Plodding is fine. 2 other cars have pace/fun so not fussed. Practical and reliable is the aim
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Jul 18, 2018 17:50:56 GMT
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I’ve got a PD150 making 240bhp & 375ft/lb at the moment...
And I’m only an injector change from 280bhp and 450ft/lb...
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mgmrw
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Jul 18, 2018 19:07:31 GMT
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I’ve got a PD150 making 240bhp & 375ft/lb at the moment... And I’m only an injector change from 280bhp and 450ft/lb... What money does it take? An Alhambra running towards 200bhp and 400lb/ft would be hilarious
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Jul 21, 2018 23:15:46 GMT
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I bought a car with the turbo and a bloody awful exhaust manifold the shape of a banana. All in for me (map is free a buddy does it), about 2k euro. That was with new manifold (cast welded), exhaust adapted, and the 150 engine grafting into my MK5 generation car. Garrett GTB2260VK turbo and manifold kit, and Firad 80%+ injectors would see you the far side of 250bhp no trouble. It’s the other stuff that would need sorting. I put a solid flywheel and updated clutch in it to help cope. The PD150 injectors are right on their limit at 240bhp and so quite smoky. 240bhp on bigger nozzles would be smoke free. Inter cooler pipe work is somehow holding together with tec-screws until I make a hard pipe setup (probably do it when the car is apart to do the 4x4 conversion ). And then brakes, suspension, tires. I’ve bought a set of 345x30mm R36 Passat discs and 4-pot AMG Brembos to try and stop it. Runaway train kinda thing.
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mgmrw
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Jul 22, 2018 18:24:07 GMT
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I bought a car with the turbo and a bloody awful exhaust manifold the shape of a banana. All in for me (map is free a buddy does it), about 2k euro. That was with new manifold (cast welded), exhaust adapted, and the 150 engine grafting into my MK5 generation car. Garrett GTB2260VK turbo and manifold kit, and Firad 80%+ injectors would see you the far side of 250bhp no trouble. It’s the other stuff that would need sorting. I put a solid flywheel and updated clutch in it to help cope. The PD150 injectors are right on their limit at 240bhp and so quite smoky. 240bhp on bigger nozzles would be smoke free. Inter cooler pipe work is somehow holding together with tec-screws until I make a hard pipe setup (probably do it when the car is apart to do the 4x4 conversion ). And then brakes, suspension, tires. I’ve bought a set of 345x30mm R36 Passat discs and 4-pot AMG Brembos to try and stop it. Runaway train kinda thing. Christ, £1500 for that power is reasonable. The classic is in for test, advertised locally also. Once it's gone I'll step up the hunt. Mrs has admitted defeat, leaving me to choose. I like the idea of the MPV made cool. Missed out on a bargain Alhambra locally. £995 for a 2005 sport. PD130, manual. 148k in it. Bodywork was abused but nothing a day on the driveway couldn't sort for £50
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Jul 22, 2018 23:52:35 GMT
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I bought a car with the turbo and a bloody awful exhaust manifold the shape of a banana. All in for me (map is free a buddy does it), about 2k euro. That was with new manifold (cast welded), exhaust adapted, and the 150 engine grafting into my MK5 generation car. Garrett GTB2260VK turbo and manifold kit, and Firad 80%+ injectors would see you the far side of 250bhp no trouble. It’s the other stuff that would need sorting. I put a solid flywheel and updated clutch in it to help cope. The PD150 injectors are right on their limit at 240bhp and so quite smoky. 240bhp on bigger nozzles would be smoke free. Inter cooler pipe work is somehow holding together with tec-screws until I make a hard pipe setup (probably do it when the car is apart to do the 4x4 conversion ). And then brakes, suspension, tires. I’ve bought a set of 345x30mm R36 Passat discs and 4-pot AMG Brembos to try and stop it. Runaway train kinda thing. Christ, £1500 for that power is reasonable. The classic is in for test, advertised locally also. Once it's gone I'll step up the hunt. Mrs has admitted defeat, leaving me to choose. I like the idea of the MPV made cool. Missed out on a bargain Alhambra locally. £995 for a 2005 sport. PD130, manual. 148k in it. Bodywork was abused but nothing a day on the driveway couldn't sort for £50 And where they make power too. Comes on boost about 2100, full boost by 3k. 16” wheels and 215 width no match for it. I added power first and then have to sort the brakes to suit. Sharan etc are also parts bin stuff, you could mod them quite easily.
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mgmrw
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Christ, £1500 for that power is reasonable. The classic is in for test, advertised locally also. Once it's gone I'll step up the hunt. Mrs has admitted defeat, leaving me to choose. I like the idea of the MPV made cool. Missed out on a bargain Alhambra locally. £995 for a 2005 sport. PD130, manual. 148k in it. Bodywork was abused but nothing a day on the driveway couldn't sort for £50 And where they make power too. Comes on boost about 2100, full boost by 3k. 16” wheels and 215 width no match for it. I added power first and then have to sort the brakes to suit. Sharan etc are also parts bin stuff, you could mod them quite easily. That's what appeals about going VAG. Chop and change parts about. 180bhp would be ample. Usable power. 40mm lower would help. Bigger brakes would be good, I always like my car's over braked, suits my driving style.
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If you get a 130, a map alone gets you 180. Cat gut and air filter, slightly lowered on springs and some brakes from an Audi or Passat. Done.
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Apparently calipers from a late T4 Caravelle designed for 312mm discs and a random. VW/Audi disc and you’ve 330mm discs and much better stopping power apparently
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