Rich
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall CorsaRich
@foxmcintyre
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As said above, the water in the oil is most likely the chain cover gasket. I wouldn't bother disturbing the head if there are no other symptoms as it's almost 100% going to be a swollen failed seal for the waterway for the water pump. If you are going to do the chain, then you will be replacing that anyway so I wouldn't go tearing it down for a HG that is most probably definitely fine. Oops!! We’ve just taken it to bits... It’s a good learning experience for Tom if nothing else... he now knows how simple beetle engines really are As you’ve said it all looked pretty muck ok, there was a swollen seal behind the water pump on the timing cover... so that was probably our problem... oh well The upside is it'll be one less thing to ever worry about on it in the long run so there is that, it's not completely fruitless. Replace the oil pressure switch while you are there, I'm not sure they suffer on the B like they did on the C and every subsequent model after but they fail internally, allowing oil to be forced along the inside of the wiring loom causing ecu issues. Will be a good reliable little motor when you guys have finished that's for sure!
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 21, 2018 19:10:32 GMT
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Tom wanted to help put it back together, so rather than doing any spannering yesterday, I dropped the kids off with Godparents who took them to the zoo for the day, then had a couple of quotes to do, and went looking for the EGR and water pump gaskets.... Why I thought they’d be off the shelf parts for a 20 year old car I don’t know, I suspect it’s because we’ve been spoiled with beetle parts as everything seems dead easy to get (but they only do about 3 different gasket sets over the whole production run!) anyway... I drove round a few factors and then phoned a couple more... then ordered off of the internet and went and did one of the jobs I quoted in the morning instead (he’s a mate with a new workshop and needed some lights... always worth helping out people with workshops ) So today we did what we could.... we’ve cleaned up the block and head, ran one of the old head bolts through the threads to check they are ok, then fitted the head gasket and started putting it together. You can see in the first photo how bunged up the waterways are, (we’d started giving them a clean from no 1 end but you can can see how bad they were at no 4 end) And after a clean We got the head back on with a bit of wriggling, because we didn’t strip the inlet side it took three of us, Tom and Ella holding up the inlet whilst I pushed the head onto it before lowering onto the head gasket Fitted the new timing gasket with some grey sealant as advised. Rich said the mayo was probably coming from the timing chest, and the gasket had looked quite mashed up on that area when we took it out. So I’ve attached a couple of photos to show that I think you were right We fitted the timing chain and sprockets etc But the old ones were like new, compared the new sprockets to the old and couldn’t see any wear... So wonder if the old guys nephew fitted a new timing chain kit and either didn’t tell him or he’d forgotten... I’d expect to see some wear at 70k wouldn’t I? We tried cleaning up the rocker cover, but failed really... not sure what allot it is but it’s hard to do much with, in the end we gave it a coat of black, which is a bit better We’ve fitted pretty much everything we can, but annoyingly can’t fit the engine mount until we’ve fitted the water pump, so will have to wait for the gaskets to show up and then we can finish off. We are going to flush the coolant side out after it’s running again too, And I ordered a sump gasket too, so we’ll drop that and make sure that’s cleaned out of gunk before we finish too Tune in next time
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 23, 2018 20:50:53 GMT
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A few of the bits we ordered arrived, So tonight we dropped the sump to change the gasket and give it a clean out.... except to do that, you need to drop the exhaust out of the way, the easiest way to move the exhaust would be to undo the 3 bolts that attach the cat to the exhaust manifold, but they looked a bit rusty, so we gave them a spray with penetrating oil, said a little prayer and they all came out! So we could then remove the sump There is a bit of muck in the bottom, but not too bad... Except for a bolt!! It was lying in the baffled higher level section where the exhaust goes (can be seen in the cleaned sump below where we found it) And with a bit of searching we found it was a bolt from the baffle plate under the crank, which was a nice relief So then we fitted a new gasket, and put it all back together again. Also fitted the EGR gasket, and put a bit more back together So we are really just waiting for the water pump gasket and oil filter housing gasket, and then we can finish putting it together. We also started trying to clean the expansion tank at the weekend.... We spent quite a while with rice and chemicals in the tank and shaking etc... but it’s still pretty mucky. I want it to be clear so Ella can easily check the levels, and if she’s going to have to take the cap off to look then either it won’t be done, or she’ll do it with it’s hot or something.. so whilst getting gaskets, I saw a new one and ordered it as it was only £12 We’ve fitted the old one for now, as we are going to put some coolant flush stuff in first
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Oct 23, 2018 21:38:11 GMT
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that was supremely bargainous ! and with your hardwork turning out to be a great car.
all i can add is to advise caution on pattern header tanks, ive found they don't always have the brass crush tubes inside the outlets like the GM versions, so can fracture off with tightening or some 1000s miles wibbling around
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Last Edit: Oct 23, 2018 21:40:52 GMT by darrenh
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ianw
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Oct 23, 2018 21:57:43 GMT
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I would also add to be wary of pattern header tanks, I bought an eBay one which failed after less than 1k miles and left me stopping at every services up the M6 this summer on my way home from a show to top up the water, mine split on the middle seam where the two halves join and was escaping like a boiling kettle!
Great job on the car though, generally speaking Corsa b's are super reliable, a fantastic first car!
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 23, 2018 22:17:46 GMT
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I would also add to be wary of pattern header tanks, I bought an eBay one which failed after less than 1k miles and left me stopping at every services up the M6 this summer on my way home from a show to top up the water, mine split on the middle seam where the two halves join and was escaping like a boiling kettle! Great job on the car though, generally speaking Corsa b's are super reliable, a fantastic first car! Did wonder if it was a bargain too far... especially as ones from breakers were more!! we can fit it though and carry on trying to clean up the original one at leisure Thanks
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 25, 2018 21:11:22 GMT
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Finished putting the Corsa back together yesterday, was a bit of a rush at the end but we got there* So tonight, because I’m going to Gilwell Park with Ella and the explorers tomorrow, Lucy sent me to hunt and gather some alcohol and a treat. Rather than going to the shop at the end of the road I took the Corsa and drove to the garage at Towcester. It was going so well, I overtook a tractor and as I pulled back in, noticed a load of smoke... so eased off and nursed it to the garage with the temperature starting to climb, as I stopped there was steam coming out from under the bonnet! Undeterred I put 20 quids worth of unleaded in, went inside and scored some treats, paid and rolled it over to the water. The clamp on the bottom hose of the expansion bottle had come off, I must have not put it on properly and it blew off when it got hot! I didn’t have any tools so took the clamp off, pushed the hose on and filled the expansion bottle and set off gingerly..... A couple of miles down the road the temp rose again, so I pulled over and it had airlocked, so spent a few minutes burping the system. When it had settled down, I set off again and got another couple of miles and the gauge just started to move again, so pulled into a conveniently placed lay-by and checked it, and it had emptied the expansion tank, I’m about 3 miles from home.... so I go to top the expansion tank up with the bottle of anti-freeze and water I prepared last night... except I’d left that at home! So I improvised and used what I had to hand I poured a can of coors lite in there, let’s be honest it’s virtually water anyway (it has been nicknamed ladywater by some people I drink with) put the cap back on and finished my journey, Gave Lucy a glass of wine and some chocolate, and then went and drained and refilled the coolant again, but this time put the clamp on properly I thought I’d take it round the block, but then went a bit further... so did about 30 miles buzzing around the lanes in the dark it’s the nemesis to my 3 tonne diesel van!! Next job though, is to have a look at some of the interior lights... the heater controls are a bit of guesswork Back home now, cracked a can of coors and it’s terrible!!! Think I’ll have a glass of anti-freeze instead
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ianw
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Heater controls generally require small hands Remove the MFD at the top, pull the heater knobs off by pressing in a small tab at the side iirc. Then you can pull away the facia and replace the tiny bulbs, 1 for each heater knob and 1 for the slider (I think).
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Last Edit: Oct 26, 2018 12:09:20 GMT by ianw
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andy-v
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Oct 26, 2018 10:44:48 GMT
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bookmarked cracking work.
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 26, 2018 16:07:54 GMT
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Heater controls generally require small hands Remove the MFD at the top, pull the heater knobs off by pressing in a small tab at the side iirc. Then you can pull away the facia and replace the tiny bulbs, 1 for each heater knob and 1 for the slider (I think). Luckily I have access to some small hands, and they are fairly willing most of the time (knew there’d be a positive side to having kids eventually )
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Not done any work, but have been driving it around a bit, and it’s not blown any badly secured hoses off (or demanded more beer ) But today, I needed a couple of tyres for the van, and mate had got me 4 demounts ages (10k miles) ago... but the t6 4motion seems to bias less to the rear than the t5gp, so they’ve sat in the garage waiting. Loaded up, and got the tyres swapped on the way to Oxford
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Nov 17, 2018 22:56:16 GMT
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Fixed the heater control lights, we fitted LEDs and if anything they are a bit white (could have done with some 3k ones, might keep looking and swap them another time) It is a rubbish design, you have to unclip the heater vent section to get the cover back on, so need 4 hands... and though I had another pair of hands they were controlled by a different brain, so even that was tricky Other than that I’ve been using it, I’ve got a job in the centre of Oxford at the minute, and I go down once a week most weeks. If I buy a permit it’s £80 for the month... so £20 a week, if I don’t have a permit and get caught by the traffic wardens it’s £25 But there is a falling down coachhouse at the end of the garden And it’s not big enough for a van. And my transporter is a little van for the builders So I’ve been using the Corsa, and squeezing it into the coachhouse Lucy thinks it’s funny that I keep driving it, and I don’t like to just leave it sat there without using it e dry now and again, But it’s also the complete opposite of my 3t van, it’s small and nippy and I really enjoy using it. So mentioned that when Ella is using it properly I might get myself a little retro car, something that any of us could drive, that needs a bit of tinkering, but not a full on resto... and she thought that sounded ok So started wondering what I could get
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jamesd1972
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajamesd1972
@jamesd1972
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Now there’s a rabbit warren to drop into. Reckon the best bet might be to set a “budget” and keep eyes open locally for what pops up. Worked for the corsa?
That’s how we ended up with the Land Rover which can recomend as a cheap easy to work on thing and has full on 50’s driving experience !
Saying that a nice vtech Honda of some sort....
James
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Dec 28, 2018 17:46:53 GMT
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Not done much, lent Derek to my dad for a couple of weeks Got it back just before Christmas, mainly so I didn’t need to tidy out the van. We gave the car, van and the corsa a wash on Christmas Eve, and the corsa got a polish too! The only work that’s been done is to replace the reversing lights switch as the one on there was a bit intermittent And used it to go to my sisters for family meet up, it’s only 40ish miles away but involved driving up the m40. Lucy worked last night, so came home yesterday and went to work... we stayed over Spud says he prefers the boot of the Octavia, it’s bigger and flat loading And road trip selfie
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Enjoying this, and the Fug thread, of course. Happy new year to you and your spannering yours, from me and my eating mine. And from Spud as well
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Dec 29, 2018 17:23:26 GMT
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Enjoying this, and the Fug thread, of course. Happy new year to you and your spannering yours, from me and my eating mine. And from Spud as well Thanks, and Happy new year! (There has been far too much eating here too though )
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Apr 21, 2019 18:59:30 GMT
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Not updated this for a while, As warned the cheap eBay expansion bottle failed, luckily I’d finished cleaning the old one up, so swapped them over Other than that, we just been driving it, my dad borrowed it for a few weeks as a second car. He’s used to an automatic so there were a few attempts at changing gear without clutch and driving around in one gear, but Derek survived that And we’ve done nearly 1000 miles since the summer Taking it in on tuesday for a Dinitrol treatment, I’ve got 2 spare wheels that don’t have bends in them (a couple of the ones fitted have been curbed and bent, and then crudely straightened). I’ve ordered 4 new tyres (these ones are like new... but 9 years old, so shall change before we use the car properly) so will get new tyres on these 2 rims and then pick 2 others that aren’t bendy and swap them on too. Got a new front bumper (well got a pair of bumpers for £30... have been looking for a while, they are cheap but normally the postage makes them not worth buying) the one on there had been damaged Got a pair of base model black plastic ones, so fitted the front Not sure if it’s worth colour coding it, or if I should look out for a painted one and repaint at leisure? Seen mixed results from colour coding textures bumpers. Of course in fitting the bumper the front of the plastic wheel arches have been damaged too, so just ordered a cheap set of those (hopefully they’ll be ok) Ella has been practicing driving, on the farm track where in-laws live, but also at the weekend on a mates tractor She turns 17 next month, so couple of weeks to tidy up a few bits
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Apr 21, 2019 20:09:50 GMT
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Apr 21, 2019 20:15:48 GMT
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Before the rust treatment I thought I had better check the rust bubble by the rear passenger side door, expecting the worse I had a good prod about And it’s solid, just some rust under the paint. I wonder if the seatbelt clip has been caught in it and scratched through the paint and let damp in underneath (?) anyway it’s solid, so I treated it And will get it painted when we get it back
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Apr 21, 2019 20:38:50 GMT
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Thanks! Just looking at that now, not letting me do it on the corsa at the minute though ... it says it’s too old
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