Rich
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall CorsaRich
@foxmcintyre
Club Retro Rides Member 160
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Nice to see one of these being appreciated. Given what this motor is like in its later guise for eating timing chains I'd recommend replacing that and the guides while you have it in bits. No brainer if you ask me. The real weak point is the timing chain cover gasket where the waterway for the water pump comes through the centre of the timing case, usually giving HGF symptoms of loads of water in the oil. Good luck with the mini rebuild, they are easy enough engines to work on. A timing pin set its about £20 if that loan of one doesn't come off btw.
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Nice to see one of these being appreciated. Given what this motor is like in its later guise for eating timing chains I'd recommend replacing that and the guides while you have it in bits. No brainer if you ask me. The real weak point is the timing chain cover gasket where the waterway for the water pump comes through the centre of the timing case, usually giving HGF symptoms of loads of water in the oil. Good luck with the mini rebuild, they are easy enough engines to work on. A timing pin set its about £20 if that loan of one doesn't come off btw. Was told it is worth swapping the timing chain, so just ordered a kit a minute ago. Went for the full kit with sprockets, chain and guides etc So think we’ve spent nearly the same on bits as we bought it for But don’t think they’ll be a lot else to spend out on, will give the brakes a going over and it might need some new dampers, then it’s rust protection, cleaning and painting Hopefully won’t need the pins but good to know Thanks
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Rich
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 6,336
Club RR Member Number: 160
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall CorsaRich
@foxmcintyre
Club Retro Rides Member 160
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Hopefully won’t need the pins but good to know You will physically need a set to do the job (if that's what you meant) but hopefully you will be able to borrow them.
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Hopefully won’t need the pins but good to know You will physically need a set to do the job (if that's what you meant) but hopefully you will be able to borrow them. Yep, meant hopefully won’t need to buy them. Cakey who has the pins also seems to have a constant stream of corsas (mostly later ones now) so hopefully if I borrow his pins, he’ll check I’ve done it right too
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Jul 27, 2018 19:34:10 GMT
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Got the clutch kit And timing chain kit So will start doing some work after the Gathering Finally got the logbook too (the old bloke misplaced it) and helped him to do the online v5c, Which was surprisingly easy... sorned it until we get back off of holiday.
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Well we parked Derek up at the end of July when we went on holiday and he’s been sat in the shed since.... The shed is behind the grain drier, that obviously got used in August (mostly to blow the grain through, as I don’t think they had to flirt much at all) but the result was that after 10 weeks it looked like a barn find when I moved it today! But then I washed away all that extra value The battery was flat, but it looks like a fairly new battery so will bring it home and optimise it. The reason for getting it out was to take it to a mate who does Dinitrol rust protection, so took it over to get him to give it a once over before we start doing stuff to it and before we book it in for Dinitrolling The front of the sills And the rears, this has the rust blob in the top So, it’s all very solid... he’s booked up, and it’s not a wreck underneath...so we will start fixing stuff and get it over to him when he gets a bit quieter. Which is good as we’ve got a boot full of bits
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That's it I've decided I'm getting one of these in the New Year!
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Sometimes it's fun to do the impossible
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 13, 2018 16:45:13 GMT
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Dropped the Fug off and picked the Corsa up. Came home and we had a couple of hours* so jacked it up, sorted axle stands and took the wheels off Then dropped the front struts, changed the front dampers The old ones were very worn out, Tom could compress them wth one hand... we cleaned up the springs and gave them a bit of a paint, mostly where they’d rubbed... *then we found out we didn’t have a couple of hours, so quickly tidied up and are now off out more tomorrow, between rain showers I imagine
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 14, 2018 13:23:04 GMT
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We braved the weather, well we tarpped up and braved the weather and then had a clean up around the front end, this is how we left it yesterday.... We wire brushed stuff, and gave everything a clean up then gave the rusty bits a coat of hammerite kurust, don’t know how good it in, but it’s going to get some dinitrol coating, and they’ll pressure wash everything underneath... so what doesn’t stick will get blasted off but it felt like we were doing something to help anyway We also gave the callipers a coat of satin black to tidy them up... Then it got wetter and wilder, so we swapped the rear dampers but haven’t done any cleaning up or painting, but cleaned the wheels And refitted the wheels and lowered it back down, we’ll take it out and see how much better in a bit... but just had a Sunday roast
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 18, 2018 21:31:07 GMT
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In an effort to emulate the threads I enjoy reading... I am trying to write a bit more detail.... we’ll have to see how that works out So this weekends quest is to change the head gasket on the Corsa. The car has done just under 70k, runs lovely and doesn’t overheat... but I’ve got a niggling feeling, it’s a little greasy in the expansion tank, not enough to say there is a problem as I don’t know much of the history of the car. There is also a little bit of mayonnaise in the oil cap, again not sure if this is relevant as the car had only driven about 150 to 200 miles between mots when we picked it up, and has then only done an extra 250ish since July... it seems at the price of these cars, they are in the realms of bangernomics and so slowly they are failing and being taken off of the road. With that in mind I have scoured the corners of this green and fertile land to track down the required parts for the work to the mighty Corsa, I passed through the seven levels of the Candy Cane forest, through the sea of swirly-twirly gum drops, and then I walked through the Lincoln Tunnel to arrive at Euro Car Parts with a discount code, and eBay turned up other bits (it’s interesting when looking for bits that some companies have cheaper bits on their main site with inflated prices on eBay, and others the opposite is true) So I have; Head gasket set Timing chain, guides and tensioner Head bolts Oil Oil filter element New sump plug Antifreeze I bought a £15 timing pin set from the internet too in the end, because then I can work on the drive... and make cups of tea, or go for a poo... the sort of luxuries that a shed in a farmyard lacks This has turned up with the same part number as the one advertised, but says it’s for Opel 3 cylinders. Which is of course the downside of buying stuff cheap from the internet.... it is easily wrong and if it is, it’s a complete kerfuffle to change it. But hopefully it’s the right one, we’ll find out on Saturday So far we’ve drained the coolant, and we are going to try and clean the expansion tank up with some rice, bleach and a dishwasher tablet (this seems to work best) Whilst the rocker cover is off, I’m going to try and polish some of the oxidisation off as other than that the engine is quite tidy. We’ve dropped the oil, which seems very clean and have lifted the battery out as there is a bit of rust on the battery tray visible.... but it looks ok, so we’ll give it a clean up as well. And tonight I’ve been told Tom is being taken out for the day on Saturday, so we are going to try and strip the head off tomorrow night... we can check if it’s warped with a straight edge and a light, and assuming it looks ok I’ll bolt it back together on Saturday. With that in mind we’ve taken the front heat shield off of the manifold and squirted the studs and nuts with penetrating oil... fingers crossed We also got a couple of spare wheels for a fiver Because, the last owner seems to have liked kerbs!! The second wheel was the spare, hence it being cleaner... but that’s because the wheel that is now the spare has an even bigger bend in it!
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Oct 18, 2018 23:21:04 GMT
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A grade first car right there, well done on the save and putting decent work into it. I still regret getting rid of my Corsa B.. Isuzu diesel in mine was virtually bomb proof. As sad will have disappeared these soon
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Your locking kit should be fine, the 1.0 engine was a 3 cylinder, same design as the 1.2 but 1 cylinder less!
All the modern small engines seem to sweat inside now giving that mayonnaise gloop so don't be too disappointed if it comes back after the gasket change, I think it must be short runs and not getting the engine nice and hot that causes it?
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Your locking kit should be fine, the 1.0 engine was a 3 cylinder, same design as the 1.2 but 1 cylinder less! All the modern small engines seem to sweat inside now giving that mayonnaise gloop so don't be too disappointed if it comes back after the gasket change, I think it must be short runs and not getting the engine nice and hot that causes it? That’s what I’m hoping, and that being the case the head shouldn’t have warped and it’ll all go back together lovely And that makes sense on the locking kit, thanks
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Oct 19, 2018 20:06:39 GMT
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I’ve had a couple of these in the past and like said I wouldn’t worry about the mayo normally the breathers get blocked and short runs do them no good, another place I’ve had them warp is on the timing case as it seals the water pump to the block which then if warped allows water to run straight into the sump, also that timing tool kit will be fine as said
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Last Edit: Oct 19, 2018 20:07:32 GMT by willcox
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Rich
Club Retro Rides Member
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall CorsaRich
@foxmcintyre
Club Retro Rides Member 160
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Oct 19, 2018 20:23:57 GMT
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As said above, the water in the oil is most likely the chain cover gasket. I wouldn't bother disturbing the head if there are no other symptoms as it's almost 100% going to be a swollen failed seal for the waterway for the water pump. If you are going to do the chain, then you will be replacing that anyway so I wouldn't go tearing it down for a HG that is most probably definitely fine.
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 19, 2018 20:41:12 GMT
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Well after work (and school for Tom) we made a start on stripping the head off. We started removing some bits.... Then just sort of cracked on a bit, we’ve got a Haynes manual but they are never the most helpful things in the world... so we used it a bit and worked the rest out. The upshot of this is that we forgot to take any photos!! It got dark so we carried on a bit with head torches until we got the head off There was a bit more mayo in the top of the rocker cover And some gloop around the gaskets, so I’ll give it a good clean up where I can tomorrow The bores all look ok, maybe a bit shiny in places, but it was running well and not smoking so we aren’t worried We gave the head a bit of a clean, and then a quick check with a straight edge and lamp And it looked ok, will check a bit more properly tomorrow.... but dinner and beer were calling (the dinner was calling both of us, but unfortunately Tom isn’t allowed the beer yet ) Reading the manual, I need some sealant for the bottom of the timing cover, and we haven’t got a water pump seal in our kit.... so I’ll have to pop to a factors tomorrow when I’m out. But we also need another gasket, but I don’t know what it’s called.... There is a water block under the coil pack plug with the temp sensor on it (I think) which has a pipe that feeds the bottom of the inlet manifold And we haven’t got the gasket for it... it looks like this But as I don’t know what I’m asking for, I’m just going to look a bit of an idiot.... so I may have to send Tom in instead
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 19, 2018 20:46:03 GMT
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As said above, the water in the oil is most likely the chain cover gasket. I wouldn't bother disturbing the head if there are no other symptoms as it's almost 100% going to be a swollen failed seal for the waterway for the water pump. If you are going to do the chain, then you will be replacing that anyway so I wouldn't go tearing it down for a HG that is most probably definitely fine. Oops!! We’ve just taken it to bits... It’s a good learning experience for Tom if nothing else... he now knows how simple beetle engines really are As you’ve said it all looked pretty muck ok, there was a swollen seal behind the water pump on the timing cover... so that was probably our problem... oh well
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Oct 19, 2018 21:02:10 GMT
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If I remember right that’s the egr to head gasket
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Ella’s 1999 Vauxhall Corsajohnthesparky
@johnthesparky
Club Retro Rides Member 6
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Oct 19, 2018 21:11:13 GMT
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If I remember right that’s the egr to head gasket Awesome When you know what it’s called, google makes it easy Thanks
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Oct 19, 2018 21:27:07 GMT
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cracking job
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