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Sept 23, 2018 16:33:37 GMT
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I’ve never been to the Newark Autojumble before so I figured it was time for a day trip. Don’t forget to top up the fuel and check all fluids before a long trip. M40 eastbound heading towards the M25. Horrendous driving conditions! On the A1 heading north. This looks promising. But this doesn’t! I can’t remember the last time I checked the engine oil level. Contrary to the fact that it’s grim up north, the sun came out north of Peterborough. Upon arrival in Newark I checked the oil level. Yep, the little light was telling the truth. Better get some oil for the journey home. Another disappointing event. The autojumble wasn’t that big, most of the stalls had motorcycle related tat and within an hour of my arrival a lot of sellers had packed up and left. Something I said? I did get a W201 wheeltrim for a fiver, the same design and size as the W124 wheeltrim but it doesn’t have the chrome ring around the edge. It’s still a useful spare in case I lose any of mine. Oil topped up, purchased at the autojumble for a fiver. The journey home was uneventful, the 200E is very happy cruising at 70-80MPH and my lack of attention to the engine oil level issue aside, we clocked up a very happy near 300 miles.
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ChasR
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Sept 23, 2018 23:24:41 GMT
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I have run several cars on veg. a Citroen ZX, a Punto 1.7td, an e39 525Tds (early m51 engine) and a w210 e300td with an OM606. All of them with the exception of the punto (izuzu engine) ran very happily on Straight veg with a little bit of petrol in colder temps. The e39 did have its pump seals go as well but I replaced them and it ran happily ever after until it met its untimely demise. I was always using brand new veg oil from Costco in 20 litre drums, it was 12.95 for 20 litres when I was buying it but noticed the other day it was up to £14 with no vat which still makes a big saving for me. I am surprised to hear the 300d didn't run that well on it. I was under the impression it was one of the best ones to use it with. the OM606 was a tad more sluggish but ran happily on it. Yes it is a bit stinky though. My 530d is a late 2003 sport touring auto. The gearbox is about to be replaced on it as the Torque converter is failing. It is a fantastic car and has a shed load of poke. My option if I missed the power would be to put an om606 turbo in the w124 I have always loved the w124 and really fancy one They are one of the best, but I think the truth is depends on what your expectations are, and how much you cared about the car. I like yourself ran my 306 DT on veg and it was OK, but in truth that was never a ball of fire As said, I thought my 250D would seem slow, but if anything, 300Ds seemed slow after that, especially the one I sold to my mate, which seemed 'fine' when I drove it. After all, it's down to what you ar used to. Kent Bergasma's video on YT seemed to suggest why the above was the case; his advice was for all diesels, not just W124s. the 250D did have a new timing chain which is meant to be a big difference on most on them, as it brings the cam timing and injector timing back into check. Fair enough on the pricing; I used to have CostCo membership, but lately it just wasn't worth it (I live over 10 miles away + traffic) from one, meaning my local Sainsburys/Mozzies is my only real choice. How many miles did you do in the above cars? I'm looking at 20k+ hence long terms issues in my advice . The OM603 (in a 300D) would be just as happy as an OM606 on veg oil however . But yes, they are slow! Wonderful and a ball of fire, but slow. In some ways, I miss that going to my E320, but the E320 is a nicer car overall, even with its thirst!
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Last Edit: Sept 23, 2018 23:27:13 GMT by ChasR
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Sept 24, 2018 5:36:31 GMT
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I read a pistonheads article about the 250d being under rated. the manual one was actually quicker than a 300d auto. I know that whatever w124 I get it is not going to go down in value either. Interesting to know about the timing chain.
I thought when I set up the VP37 fuel pump on my e39 that I was going to have to get rid of it as I had messed up the pump timing when I changed the seals.
I bought one of those cheap diagnostic tools that gave live values and managed to get it set up my tiny tiny adjustments. It ran alright before doing the setup to absolutely brilliant afterwards. I even got an extra 3 to 4mpg after doing the job.
The e39 covered 27k miles on veg, the zx around 15k and the punto 5k. the w210 did about 7k and never missed a beat but the amount of work that needed done was too much to justify fixing it.
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Dec 28, 2018 15:30:42 GMT
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I haven’t updated this thread for a while mostly because life and holidays have taken precedence but also because I’ve clocked up approx 1,500 fun and trouble free miles in the 200E since my last post. I took advantage of the ECP Christmas sale and bought some oil filters for my Mercs and a cam cover gasket for the 200E. There was evidence of oil seeping past the old gasket in a couple of places. With the cam cover removed I noted the clean valve gear and unworn cam. Nice! Obviously this engine has benefited from regular oil changes. Fortunately the old gasket came away unharmed as the replacement part was clearly not the right one. The curved part of the gasket should be the same as the opposite end. How unlike ECP to provide the wrong part (even though the label on the packaging suggested the gasket was the right one for my engine). Nothing to see here, the underside of the cam cover was nice and clean. I applied some silicone gasket sealant, at least I thought I did. I got this far before I realised that I was smearing body filler hardener instead of silicone sealant. What a plonker! Once I removed the hardener I applied the silicone sealant. Everything went back together without any problems. Somehow I managed to break the top of the dipstick but fortunately I had a spare. I also replaced the oil filler cap with a newer one, which probably has a stronger spring and fresher seal. All in all I spent two hours getting my hands filthy and made no progress whatsoever. I changed the thermostat back in the summer but the engine has always run cool. Since fitting a piece of plastic that covers 2/3 of the front of the radiator the engine temperature stays at approx 80 deg C, which is not ideal when the thermostat should open at 87 deg C. Guess where I got the thermostat from. ECP. Say no more.
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Dec 31, 2018 14:45:09 GMT
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I have already enquired about potential causes of crunchy gear changes here: autoshite.com/topic/33764-gear-change-issue-question-faulty-synchro/?hl=w124+gear+changeToday I investigated the cause of a stiff change from neutral into first. Whilst every other gear goes in ok, first often baulks, regardless whether the engine is hot or cold. Underneath the selector rods and bushes look fine. And up top there’s nothing to see. Could there be something amiss inside the gearbox? A DIY gearbox oil change on the drive is not an option, time to pay my old mechanic a visit.
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Dec 31, 2018 19:09:11 GMT
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Changing the oil is worth it, but check to see if the linkage arms have slipped on their splines.
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1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car
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The 200E’s engine was coated with decades of oil, muck and neglect. It needed cleaning for three reasons: 1. The MoT tester would probably flag up the mess come May’s test. 2. After a run there was an oily smell coming from under the bonnet. 3. Aesthetics. Pre-wash photos:
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With the sump guard removed the underside of the engine looked grim. The sump guard was also filthy. I removed a few parts to improve access. And wrapped up the electrical bits that wouldn’t appreciate a splash of water. I jacked up the car for better access to the underside of the engine. I sprayed all the dirty areas with Jizer and after ten minutes I got stuck in.
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Changing the oil is worth it, but check to see if the linkage arms have slipped on their splines. The linkages all look intact and undisturbed with no evidence of wear. The 200E's MoT is due in May. I live in Beaconsfield but since my late teens (I will be 45 in a few weeks time) I've always used the same testing station in West London. My friendly mechanic is also located 5 mins down the road from the MoT station. The plan is to pre-book the 200E with my mechanic to have the rear subframe bushes replaced, the gearbox oil renewed and the brake fluid changed, as well as anything else that needs doing to please the MoT tester.
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Jan 13, 2019 11:56:42 GMT
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I had planned to visit an autojumble this morning. Details here: autoshite.com/topic/34182-kidlington-oxford-autojumble-this-sunday/After yesterday's engine cleaning shenanigans the engine re-started first time and ran fine. However, this morning it took a lot of cranking to get the engine started but once running everything seemed fine or at least I thought it was. I set off and within less than ten minutes the engine started to misfire. I stopped on the M40 slip road to investigate. I fiddled with the plug leads and checked for any evidence of moisture. There was none. I figured that I would drive to the next junction and come off and go home if the engine was still running rough or continue if the problem cleared up. Luckily the engine seemed fine and I continued my journey north on the M40. I drove past Handy Cross (J4), the car running just fine, happy that I only lost 5 minutes of my time, I noticed a familiar looking car on the hard shoulder - my brother in law's Volvo. Previous Volvo related episode here: autoshite.com/topic/34031-christmas-day-mishap-w124-to-the-rescue-now-properly-fixed/?hl=volvo+diesel+unleadedSince the mis-fuel issue, the fuel level float has been playing up and despite showing half a tank on the gauge, the tank was dry. My BIL's girlfriend was on route to work so I figured I need to stop and help. Silly girl left the car inches from the nearside lane. So I gave her a quick tow to a safer location. Then the old bill turned up for a chinwag. And twenty minutes later the nice RAC man turned up with fuel. With fuel in the tank the Volvo burst into life without any problems. Amazingly, there were no issues with airlocks or blockages caused by filth in the tank (there was loads, I could see it when we were draining the tank). It was so ******* cold on that hard shoulder that once we got the Volvo going I turned back and went home for a cuppa. That's the second time the 200E saved that Volvo. Mercedes 2 - 0 Volvo
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Last Edit: Jan 13, 2019 17:28:05 GMT by Peter C
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Jan 19, 2019 16:14:54 GMT
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I decided to replace the recently replaced (sourced from ECP) thermostat as even with my radiator shield fitted, on a run the engine temperature would never exceed 80 degrees C. I bought a new thermostat and housing from Hughes of Beaconsfield. The original (plastic) housing cracked when I was fiddling with the old thermostat and whilst my resin repair seemed to do the trick, I wanted to upgrade to the W123 style metal housing. I got a lot of good advice about how best to do an oil change here: autoshite.com/topic/34263-best-way-to-do-an-oil-change/Further research on the net revealed that it's ok to drain the oil cold, especially if the engine has not been run for some time. Fortunately the 200E has been standing untouched for a week. The old oil came out just fine and I left it to drain for almost an hour, by which time there was nothing left in the sump. Whilst removing the oil filter I found it and the housing completely dry, evidently all the oil had drained into the sump. Perfect. New thermostat and housing fitted, a doddle on this car. I noticed some localised surface corrosion on some of the suspension mountings. I waxoiled over the rusty bits and reinstated the re-painted sump guard. Job done.
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Jan 20, 2019 15:25:07 GMT
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Last year I removed the silly ICE from my W123 and fitted a period Becker radio cassette player. The fancy Bluetooth Kenwood head unit found its way into my Boxster whilst the boom box ended up sitting up in my office. I have now returned the Boxster's ICE to stock, in preparation for its sale, which led me to think of a cunning plan. Time to upgrade the 200E's ICE. The most time consuming part of fitting a sub in the boot is extending wiring through the car. Firstly, I had to take the glovebox lining out to get to the rear of the bulkhead, via which I extended a power cable connected to the battery. Then I had to remove various bits of trim and the rear seat to extend the cabling from behind the dashboard to the rear of the car. Fortunately, having done this before to my W123 and having fitted various head units to my previous W124s, I actually knew what I was doing. 4.5 hours later, job done. The head unit and microphone (for a hands-free phone connection) are in place. And the money shot. Having taken my time, I managed a discreet installation without breaking any trim. All the cables are hidden and I did not have to drill any holes or damage any part of the car - the installation is 100% reversible. On a low bass setting the four speakers sound nice and clear and with the head unit suitably set up, most of the bass is being produced by the sub. The effect of the install is very pleasing. The W124's boot is far better finished than a W123's, which has no lining to the underside of the boot panel and hard plastic side panels. The W124 has soft linings on all sides and the result is almost no vibration of external panels. Great result and the whole job cost me nothing.
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dikkehemaworst
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There's a new guy in Holland on the book of face Who specialises in used merc parts. Seen some front wing coming by.Worth an email, and if you need help with Dutch, and me a message though here.
m.facebook.com/pages/category/Motor-Vehicle-Company/Marcs-Benz-Oldtimer-parts-1474146006198406/?locale2=nl_NL
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Feb 26, 2019 17:00:03 GMT
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I haven't updated this thread for a while mostly because I've spent very little time driving or tinkering with the 200E. Firstly, the new original Mercedes Benz thermostat appears to have made very little difference to the engine's running temperature. I suspect that the cheap Ebay water pump is causing the electro-magnetic fan to engage prematurely and thus the engine is over-cooling. The gap between the two faces of the clutch is smaller than what it should be, even with my cunning plastic shim fitted and the clutch is clearly not working as intended. I can hear the fan turning as soon as the engine temp reaches 87 degrees, which can't be right. As a solution, I propose to remove the clutch and fan and wire in an electric fan. The second issue relates to a rattle that could be heard from the engine bay whenever engine revs dropped below idle speed. At first I though the metallic sounding noise was related to a loose exhaust clamp but further investigations revealed that the noise is actually coming from the auxiliary belt tensioner. Today I decided to remove the tensioner and see whether anything can be done to silence it. As usual, access to the engine ancillaries was superb. I had the tensioner out within ten minutes. Unfortunately, whilst removing the manual tension adjuster, part of the tensioner body, where the manual tension adjuster connects, cracked. Not a problem as the tensioner was knackered anyway. I took the old tensioner to Hughes of Beaconsfield and ordered a new one. A snip at £173 and that's with a discount. Should be with me by Thursday. On a happier note, I went for a drive via Wendover on Sunday and took a couple of photos of the 200E next to another white 200E, which also has a manual 'box. The other 200E looked tired and unloved compared to mine. Hopefully I'll update this thread again later this week, once I've got the new tensioner fitted.
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Feb 28, 2019 15:28:48 GMT
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Tensioner collected and fitted. Surprisingly uncomplicated process, mostly because of superior German engineering. Job done.
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I drove down to Sandown Park yesterday for the first BP Fairs toy collector fair of the season. I got a couple of nice W124 models. Whilst the 200E drove fine on the M40, M25 and A3, once in traffic approaching my destination the cooling fan kicked in and ruined the driving experience - so much noise and the engine, which has to turn a 16" fan that acts like a propeller, doesn't want to rev. I've decided to buy one of these: Before I left the fair I took a nice shot of the 200E next to a period 520i. Two great but very different cars.
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How different? I have lots of experience with W124s but almost none when it comes to the E34, still I have always been curious about them....
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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How different? I have lots of experience with W124s but almost none when it comes to the E34, still I have always been curious about them.... It's mostly the dynamics. Where the Merc has to make do with a rough old four cylinder motor, the BMW has a sweet six pot, albeit both are of similar capacity. The Merc is also tuned more for comfort where as the BMW has sharper handling and much more communicative steering. It's impossible to say which is the better car, both are bona fide classics, it all depends on the kind of driving experience that the owner is looking for.
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Interesting, since the Merc still has a more advanced rear suspension and are miles away handling wise from the W123, while the BMW still has a rear suspension quite similar to the W123 unit.
I haven't driven much of the 4 cylinders though, experiences mostly with diesels and the 300E.
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194? Willys Jeep MB 1965 Volvo 544 Special 1968 Opel Rekord 1975 Opel Kadett Estate 1985 Mercedes-Benz 230E 1985 Datsun 720 King Cab 4x4 diesel 1997 Volvo S70 2.5SE (ex. "Volvo544special65" - changed to more reader friendly username. )
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