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Sept 10, 2019 18:51:30 GMT
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Now that makes a huge difference to the backside of the panels.
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1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR 1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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Darkspeed
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Sept 10, 2019 20:47:01 GMT
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Now that makes a huge difference to the backside of the panels. Yep - available in most RAL colours easy to use, not too expensive - prep is scuff with some 60 grit wipe with acetone and brush it on at the recommended weight per sqm.
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Sept 11, 2019 6:07:03 GMT
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Now that makes a huge difference to the backside of the panels. Yep - available in most RAL colours easy to use, not too expensive - prep is scuff with some 60 grit wipe with acetone and brush it on at the recommended weight per sqm. Sold. Currently browsing and choosing colours for Project X and Q835XSC. Long time off yet but that looks so much cleaner than spraying with 'stoneguard' type paint from a rattle can.
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1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR 1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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Darkspeed
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Sept 11, 2019 12:55:56 GMT
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Sold. Currently browsing and choosing colours for Project X and Q835XSC. Long time off yet but that looks so much cleaner than spraying with 'stoneguard' type paint from a rattle can. Only buy it when you need it, as with any Poly resin based product it does have a shelf life and application is so much better when its "fresh".
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Darkspeed
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Sept 13, 2019 19:28:35 GMT
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The G21S is up for sale with an ebay classified for the next 28 days - Some rationalisation on the projects front is required and the G21S has been singled out for sacrifice as nice as it is. It's up for strong money for a car that requires full restoration but that's the price. If the ad runs through then the message is loud and clear that the car is meant to remain with me. G21's are very rare and they are quite desirable but this is going to be a real test of just how desirable they are and if the background this car has can carry the premium I require.
Need to get a few decent pictures of it this weekend to update the ad as I have just noticed how few I have.
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Darkspeed
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Sept 14, 2019 11:49:42 GMT
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Sold for the asking price in less than 48 hours. Sounds very much like the new owner will be sending the car to be restored by DARE the company run by the last remaining Walklett brother. It's a very special car and deserves as much. I am glad it's remaining in the UK with a Ginetta enthusiast.
Need to line up what's next in the cull.
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Sept 14, 2019 14:37:09 GMT
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Now that's how you sell a car.
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Darkspeed
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Sept 14, 2019 19:42:41 GMT
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Now that's how you sell a car. Fortunate enough to find a decisive buyer, with similar thoughts to my own about how special this car actually is, who was not about to let this once in a lifetime opportunity slip through his fingers. Knowledge of the Marque the market and a bit of luck with timing. Even as it stands, as rough as it is, there is something a bit special about this car.
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Sept 15, 2019 13:21:21 GMT
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After the chassis works PHX has a fresh MOT and is back on the road - The owner being as am I, a firm believer in getting classic cars checked over and MOT'd annually. Shake downs now planned prior to it competing in the HERO Rally Of The Tests heroevents.eu/event-schedule/rac-rally-tests-2019/ later in the year. The RotT is unfinished business as far as PHX in concerned due to having failed to complete all stages the last time when a drive shaft coupling let go.
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Sept 15, 2019 16:56:53 GMT
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A bit more welding deja vous today as I started on making another pair of Imp rear trailing arms a bit stronger. These are stock Imp and not the Imp Sport type so I will be adding the triangulation under the hub as well as the other strengthening. Sport type That was fitted to PHX - see the web under the hub. Standard type - no web Stage one - seams stitched A bit of steel needs to cut for little webs and fillets and then more welding.
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Sept 15, 2019 17:19:03 GMT
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Works have started on my race 998 engine which should be quite potent. It's an Ian Carter engine with loads of trick work that was then worked on further by another very capable engineer which is now being further developed by another very skilled engine builder - too many cooks? - Its a full race/rally specification running an R22 cam, lightened balanced etc. etc. block strengthening kit, Wills rings, High capacity pump with bronze gears, ultra light flywheel etc. so it should make the car pretty quick - A new race set of deep groove alloy pulleys has just been ordered because unlike the R17 in the other 998 and in PHX the R22 needs tohe engine really spinning to make the power. A new tacho will be needed even though the current one goes to 8000 as this engine will be at 6000-8500 and up to get the most from it.
Will get some photo's up when I remember to take some.
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Sept 15, 2019 22:50:59 GMT
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Think the strengthening on the 'Sport' trailing arms are an added modification and not a standard item. Having raced and rallied Imp and Imp derivatives for more than 30 years I have never seen'Sport' items modified as standard.
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Darkspeed
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Sept 16, 2019 7:52:51 GMT
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Think the strengthening on the 'Sport' trailing arms are an added modification and not a standard item. Having raced and rallied Imp and Imp derivatives for more than 30 years I have never seen'Sport' items modified as standard. That's interesting - I have seen a couple of pairs of arms like that - and as there have been no other mods on the arms and they look "factory" finished - the welding matching the other welds on the arms I had always though that was the difference between standard and Sport and thought I had seen it explained elsewhere as such. Maybe what I was looking at and what those ones are the Van Husky "Heavy duty" arms? Which would be pretty rare items. So I wonder how you tell a Standard arm from a Sport Arm then?
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Sept 16, 2019 9:40:46 GMT
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David Vizard Vizard, D. CCC look-in on the Imp / by David Vizard. - Cars & Car Conversions 1972, October, p.86-87,89,91 David Vizard tells how to beef up and modify the suspension. The rear suspension The first thing one should do with the rear suspension arms or links, if any form of competition is envisaged, is to replace them with stronger items if the ordinary Imp is being used. The Imp Sport and van rear links are stronger than the standard Imp links, so for normal fast driving and the occasional bit of competition, these can be considered satisfactory. For autocrossing, serious rallying and racing we should use the heavy duty Imp Sport/van link as this is internally reinforced. It is not, however, generally available and nowadays can only be got through Chryslers Competition Dept. Presumably this link was once distributed as a heavy duty export item. Once one is certain that the rear link is strong enough, there is the small problem of making sure that it stays well and truly attached to the car. To do this one needs to reinforce the rear crossmember in several places. As with many other parts of the Imp suspension, the first thing to do to the crossmember is to seam weld up all joints to make sure that they are as good as possible. The next move is to weld on washers to the outside faces of the lugs, which are the pivot point for the link. Once these washers are welded on, one can use the longer bolts from the Imp van to secure the link to the crossmember. For very rough work such as autocrossing and rallying the body will need strengthening in the region of the mounting points of the crossmember and an additional sheet of 10 gauge steel should be shaped and welded to the top. Having done this, the crossmember can be considered strong enough to withstand almost anything that the driver can. In some cases, the crossmember is bolted through to the body to stop flexing in the centre, but this must only be done if reinforcing plates are added to provide greater strength for the body in that area, otherwise it will achieve little. Lowering the rear end of an Imp is accomplished more or less the same way as the front, ie. we can remove the packing piece from above the suspension and/or use shorter, stiffer springs, or shorten the standard springs. In the case of the rear suspension, the leverage ratio is 1:1.755; that means that if we shorten the spring 1in we will lower the car by 1.755in. Again, as with the front, if we are using spaced out wheels or widened wheels, this leverage ratio will be slightly increased. The selection of springs is, of course, very important. The number of springs available for the rear of an Imp is quite large - see the appropriate chart on page 89. The rear link or suspension arm can, for a rally or race car, do with a little strengthening. The basic difference between a strengthened link and an unstrengthened link as far as external appearances are concerned, lies in the fact that the strengthened ones are welded up around all the seams and the bearing housing is gusseted to the main part of the arm. However this gusseting, as shown in the relevant photograph, is standard on some links, so you may find that yours has this. Apart from external appearances, the works competition link, which is based on the export van link, has internal bracing to make it much stiffer. For rally work or autocross work where a terrific pounding has to be taken, the competition link is almost essential. If you are rallying a Group I Imp then it is a wise precaution, since one cannot use a competition link, to check the links after each rally as they can crack up at the points where we have recommended strengthening. To stop hub flexure the hub must be gusseted as shown below. Current production items are already done in this way but some early ones weren't, so check. Note seam welding around entire periphery
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Darkspeed
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Sept 16, 2019 13:42:46 GMT
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And that welding and plate on that picture is exactly as the ones on the arms on PHX - the gusset plate is not just a simple plate as it is quite well designed and folded - I will be doing it from 3 separate pieces - which is why I was pretty convinced it was factory, that and having seen it more than just the once and them all being visually the same which would not be the case if they were individually produced. Although I may well now go and prove myself wrong by doing the mod to KBW's trailing arms that end up IMPerceptible to the ones on PHX and that photo I will also crayon works on them as well - just because.
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Sept 16, 2019 14:17:02 GMT
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:-)
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Sept 22, 2019 20:38:37 GMT
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Not much getting done this weekend due to one thing and another but I did cut out a few bits of steel to progress the wishbones - a fair few more bits go go though. Today was in part making a visit to my lads G15 which is residing up at captain Itchy's place to move the glassfibre works forward. The works just involved moving the car into the garage/workshop removing the body from the chassis and then cutting bits of foam board and covering them in parcel tape to provide a backing for the repairs to the floor. How we left the work the last time. Body off which gave an opportunity to catch up on the works that I did years back. This is a very lightweight G15 In the space of 3 cups of tea loads of old guy gassing about "stuff" we went from this- To this- And then dropped the body on Next step is to get mixing up some poly and glass to get stage 1 completed.
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Sept 23, 2019 21:03:57 GMT
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Grabbed a few hours this evening and spent them getting a couple of layers of glass into the sections to be repaired - some chopped strand bridging filler in the small gaps to provide a bit of backing to 2 x 300gm layers of CSM went well enough and will hold the form we need whilst we build up the rest. Once the final shape is all together it will all be scuffed back and a layer of 600gm CSM withh go over the whole area. The underside will be smoothed back and then flowcoated. A couple of props to push the floor down and clamps to get a decent seal on the packing - there was also a bit of filleting wax used to smooth into the corners to as there were cavities where the backing was not fully against the GF. Splish splash splosh and we have a couple of layers down. Next round will be on Wednesday to look at how we build up the rest of bulkhead - I suspect quite a lot of parcel tape will be the order of the day.
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Last Edit: Sept 23, 2019 21:04:33 GMT by Darkspeed
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Sept 25, 2019 23:56:53 GMT
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The Wednesday work party this week saw - The purchase of two lengths of pipe lagging at Screwfix - other purveyors of cheap 15mm pipe lagging are available. Tea Lifting of the body from the chassis Removal of the backing materials from the sides and the floor laminating Tea The cutting of the pipe lagging to fit the chassis tubes Offering up of further old bits of bulkhead to determine next stage forward Photo's Pizza and the watching of some racing from that Goodwood thing. Next plan is for some works on Friday eve to get a bit more of the old GF stuck back in and then for some work on Sunday making the rest of the bulkhead and maybe getting some more glassing done. A little and often gets the job done.
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