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Mk2 golf vr6 turbokeyring
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So I finally got found to creating a thread for this.... I bought it after seeing it for sale on here nearly 3 years ago. It had a vr6 fitted to it when I bought it, and it looked like this... Then around 3/4 months into owning it, an eBay listing popped up with an eBay turbo, cut up vr6 inlet made into a short runner, injectors, intercooler, screamer pipe, wastegate and brake fluid reservoir relocating kit. So I managed to win it for a small sum of money and started gathering the rest of the parts to turbo it. Although it’s normal practise to fit a decompression plate to the vr6 when going forced induction, I decided to save having to take the head off, I’d leave it at standard compression and just run low boost. So it got to around April and I had all the parts, and having decided I wanted to take it to stealth racing to have it mapped, I packed the car up with all my parts, and set off to a friends down in Bristol, it’s a lot closer to stealth than traveling from mine in Scotland, and he had started to turbo his vr6 mk2 as well, so was nice to get a hand from him. We had the view to have it done in a week, however we found quite a few things that hadn’t been done right/bodged from when it had the vr6 conversion. Long story short, it took around 3/4 weeks to get it ready for mapping, but this also included fitting a hydro clutch pedal box, and changing all brake lines. I had to go back offshore in between this, so he sorted out the last remaining bits me bobs while I was away. I flew back down to his once I was home again, and we finished bleeding it up and getting it ready for it’s mapping session. As always things don’t always go to plan, and we finally got it out for a test drive... the night before it’s mapping day! We kept an eye on the AFR and they were running pretty spot on, so got some miles on it around Bristol, gave it a bit of a blast and was loving it! All of a sudden there was a massive bang through the car, as if we had hit a huge pot hole, lifted off the throttle and it was jammed on. Pulled into the petrol station down the road, jumped out, and found the bolts had stripped the threads on the front cross member where they go into the bumper brackets in the chassis legs. A late night call to my friends missus to come and get us didn’t go down too well back to his house, pinched the bumper from his small bumper mk2, and back to the petrol station to fit it. Back on the road and we called it a night... The next day we left early for the drive up to stealth, all was going fine on the drive, until maybe an hour in, and the car was getting a bad vibration through the wheel when cornering/turning Pulled over, made a few checks, but nothing obvious so we kept going, it was getting progressively worse, just as we made it to stealth and I went full lock to turn into the unit, the cv emptied itself onto the ground..... That was lucky! No problem to Vince and the rest of the guys at stealth though, new shaft ordered up, and he let me use his tools and ramp to sort a small oil leak while we waiting on the shaft to be delivered... Shaft delivered, fitted and oil leak sorted it was time to get it onto the rollers.. a few runs later to get a base, and Vince started working his magic.... A few hours later, the golf made 272bhp and 272ft/lb at 7psi of boost. It pulled amazingly and I was in love, I had a fair bit of fun on the way back to my friends house with a few unsuspecting cars... ( I should have some photos and videos from all this text, but they’re on an old phone, I’ll try dig them out) Fast forward 2 years, and minus a couple of melted oil feed lines (cheap eBay sh*t), and a couple of sheared cv bolts it’s been bomb proof and put up with bucket loads of abuse including a few days at the local drag strip. Apart from that I fitted some bucket seats, changed the colour of the wheels, sourced centre caps and carried out general maintenance and servicing. It’s now looking a bit sorry for itself, requires some welding and body work.... however the engine is still holding up well, which considering it’s now on around 180k and had the turbo slapped onto it for 2 years, I’m more than happy with how it’s done! How she looked up until 2 days ago ( photos were last year right enough)
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Last Edit: Jun 6, 2018 1:07:38 GMT by keyring
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tristanh
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Love it.
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Whether you believe you can, or you cannot, you're probably right.
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keyring
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Mk2 golf vr6 turbokeyring
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So I ended up taking this off the road at the turn off the year, then in febuary a few friends convinced me to put it back on the road for a local car meet, so I did, got through there, tried to come out of the petrol station and the car wouldn’t let me turn left so I turned right, and went out one junction, and right back into the entrance of the petrol station, popped the bonnet and the nylon bush had popped out of the rack.. Great! So I went and enjoyed the meet and abondoned the car, I’d worry about that later! Later on that day... I was lucky it didn’t happen on the motorway en route to the meet, but it was back home and sorned. It was a sign the golf had to come off the road and get the TLC it deserved... And that takes us up to yesterday(Monday), when I decided it was finally time to get the mk2 into the garage since the weather is nice enough that the 106 can sit outside under a cover again... So in it went.. I wanted to have the engine out that night, but didn’t quite get there, but by the end of play I had everything disconnected and it was ready to lift out the following morning..
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keyring
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So I slept in a bit today, so once I was up, I jumped out to get to work getting the engine out, couldn’t find my lifting strop, think I’ve let someone borrow it, but god knows who So out she came... With the engine out, I could see how bad the steering UJ boot had really got since I last seen it, I’m glad VW heritage have started remaking them now... (this was wrapped in tape) It certainly explains the occasional oil vapour smell coming into the cab from the bay... Next up, I got the front subframe removed, and it let me get a proper look at the rack, I’ve still to pull it apart and see what’s actually happened to cause the bushing to come out... I knew the battery trays needed some welding, however the bulk head also needs some The only real rot on the bulk head is where the steering boot fits in, however the parts that are surface rust seem to be pretty inset, and I’m unsure how well the rust converters actually work? And I’d hate to take all this time fixing it to then have more rust come back in a couple years, so I’m not sure if I’d be best to cut this out? I started to pull all the loom to the one side, and get as much out the bay as I could, with the bulk head having rust, I knew the dash would have to come out at some point, and since it’s looking like I’m going to start at the front of the car, and work my way back, that was next to come out.... hands scratched to bits, but I got it out... Not something I enjoyed doing, and certainly not something I’m looking forward to putting back Part of me now wishes I had left it in, as I then found that someone decided a good rust repair was a bit of tiger sealed ally plate... No hole.... Hole.... After finding this, I’m a bit disheartened with the mk2 now, as the rear strut towers also need welding ( one of the reasons it came off the road in the first place) along with the panel around the fuel filler cap So I thought well, might as well try and find out where else has rust, so I removed both front wings and the inners seemed ok, although both sides were the front wings meet the a pillars / above the door hinge, and there is rot there too, more so on the passenger side, which is also the side which is rotten under the windscreen Passenger side... Drivers side... So with that, why stop there... I pulled the sill covers off, as the underside of the car has always been solid, however the sills also have gotten their own share of the rust.... Drivers side sill, the underside seems solid enough, however the outer skin I think would be best completely replaced... The passenger side however, the outer skin all seems fine, but at the rear of the sill, the underside is slightly rotten, so I could probably get away with just the rear of a sill section. Ignore the poor looking floor under seal, the floors are one thing that are actually still solid. Obviously I won’t know what the inner sills are like until the outers are cut off, the fingers are crossed... However, with finding all this unexpected rust, it does have me questioning if it worth putting the time into, I love the car, but I think the most of that feeling is due to the engine, which I could drop into something else.... but I do love a mk2.... really going to need to have a hard think, has anyone else found themselves in a similar predicament and how they came to a decision on what to do?
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Last Edit: Jun 6, 2018 1:14:23 GMT by keyring
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its always disheartening when you find rot like that...but if you take it one step at a time, tackle one area, then move to the next...it should soon be going back together.
Love the car....and with that motor......it will be great to get it going again!
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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What he said. Small steps.
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Had similar with a Renault 5 gt turbo years back. Luckily someone i knew had a decent rolling shell so I just swapped everything over. A lot easier and cheaper, especially if you can’t do the welding yourself.
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keyring
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Mk2 golf vr6 turbokeyring
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its always disheartening when you find rot like that...but if you take it one step at a time, tackle one area, then move to the next...it should soon be going back together. Love the car....and with that motor......it will be great to get it going again! JP It definitely is, I knew it had it, just didn’t think it was quite as bad, or as much! Just trying to weigh up if it’s really worth putting the time into it... It is great fun with the engine, and it surprises a lot of people! Had similar with a Renault 5 gt turbo years back. Luckily someone i knew had a decent rolling shell so I just swapped everything over. A lot easier and cheaper, especially if you can’t do the welding yourself. If I could find a good rolling shell, that would be a lot quicker to getting it back out, and a lot less work, but it’s trying to find a shell that you know is good, and doesn’t have rust/rot hidden within that could be the same story in a couple of years I can do the welding, but it’s just a case of is it worth the time and effort, I love the car, but I just need to consider if I’m willing to stay committed for the time it is going to need...
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Speaking from experience, Good MK2 rolling shells are getting harder and harder to find for reasonably money. In 2011 I paid 200 quid for a 99% solid shell, painted and ready to go. Now a rotten one is going for a grand a half decent shell is 2k here. If you don’t want to weld it, get someone to do it. I think that there is more satisfaction in keeping a decent machine on the road. Hence me welding my mates old Focus this weekend. Horrid job but apart from that it’s immaculate and cleaner than most 9 month old cars, it’s almost 19 years old!
Take it a bit at a time.
Use the time to figure out ways to improve the engineering of the car as it goes back together. Always yields good results.
Oh and 270 odd horses on a standard compression engine, great result. VR holds my vote for the third best sounding engine in the world.
Sam
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keyring
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Mk2 golf vr6 turbokeyring
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Speaking from experience, Good MK2 rolling shells are getting harder and harder to find for reasonably money. In 2011 I paid 200 quid for a 99% solid shell, painted and ready to go. Now a rotten one is going for a grand a half decent shell is 2k here. If you don’t want to weld it, get someone to do it. I think that there is more satisfaction in keeping a decent machine on the road. Hence me welding my mates old Focus this weekend. Horrid job but apart from that it’s immaculate and cleaner than most 9 month old cars, it’s almost 19 years old! Take it a bit at a time. Use the time to figure out ways to improve the engineering of the car as it goes back together. Always yields good results. Oh and 270 odd horses on a standard compression engine, great result. VR holds my vote for the third best sounding engine in the world. Sam They definitely are! They certainly don’t come up at that price now, I seen a rally shell for sale ad from 2010, and it was up for 2k. Again never find that now! But yeah, the fact they’re getting harder to find in solid form, is one of the big reasons I’m telling myself to do the welding. I’ve had people carry out welding on cars for me in the past, but with the mk2, since it’s not going to be a quick turn around, I feel it’s probably about time I done the work myself This is true, some extra strengthening for if I up the power wouldn’t go a miss, I dare say I was really happy figures, since it was done as a bit of a budget build! And they definitely sound amazing, they’re becoming a struggle to pick up spare engines at low prices now too
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adi
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I’m not sure where you are, and for obvious reasons I wouldn’t post it but I’ve got a complete (bar the front 6”) drivers side sill going spare that I got from heritage 👍🏻
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village
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Jun 13, 2018 13:00:55 GMT
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Sod the Corrado, tell us more about the 6 wheeled Landy!
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"The White Van is strong with this one...."
Chris "Chesney" Allen 1976-2005 RIP
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Jun 13, 2018 16:26:19 GMT
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Had way too many corrados over the years. So I salute you sir! But i agree with village. Whats that 6 wheeler landy saying?
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keyring
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Jun 14, 2018 21:37:38 GMT
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I’m not sure where you are, and for obvious reasons I wouldn’t post it but I’ve got a complete (bar the front 6”) drivers side sill going spare that I got from heritage 👍🏻 I’m in Scotland just outside Edinburgh I’m afraid but thanks for the offer! Sod the Corrado, tell us more about the 6 wheeled Landy! Had way too many corrados over the years. So I salute you sir! But i agree with village. Whats that 6 wheeler landy saying? I thought the Landy would’ve get a few questions... it belongs to a friend, it’s 4x6 but I did suggest he went for 6x6, the rear axle is just a trailing axle, the rear bed tiles and tips, so the extra axle is to support the weight I believe, it has front and rear winches fitted, and a cage around the cab. It turns a lot of heads on the road! How do you find the rados for working on? I’m surprised at just how clean this is, apart from a bit of rust in the battery tray, there is none anywhere else, including the rear strut towers, which on the mk2, are bad!
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Last Edit: Jun 14, 2018 21:38:47 GMT by keyring
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Jun 14, 2018 23:36:39 GMT
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Man,your Golf looks almost exactly like one i had a couple of years ago!!! Red,big bumpers,Azevs... I'm gonna see if i've got a few pictures of it somewhere!
I've got a couple of Golf 1's now,they are on "who are you,introduce yourself" in general Board,page 33,gonna do a write-up on them soon.
Succes with the Corrado!!
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Jun 17, 2018 12:53:47 GMT
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Not too bad to be fair, id say the only downside is any forced induction engine is cramned in there. My tdi corrado was a right chore but you soon get the knack for it.
Corrado engine bays=heat management.
I'm goimg through a similar situation with my s3 engined corrado.
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keyring
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Jun 17, 2018 19:03:19 GMT
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Not too bad to be fair, id say the only downside is any forced induction engine is cramned in there. My tdi corrado was a right chore but you soon get the knack for it. Corrado engine bays=heat management. I'm goimg through a similar situation with my s3 engined corrado. yeah it’s tight, but they are worth the squeeze haha! Completely understand the heat though, my bay and bonnet used to get pretty toasty after a good run! Do you have a build thread for your Corrado?
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Jun 17, 2018 20:47:45 GMT
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Your right there mate. I'm looking for another.
Preach! No I work away a lot on the rigs so no point in a buildthread that and I'm lazy haha.
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keyring
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Jun 19, 2018 14:34:04 GMT
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Your right there mate. I'm looking for another. Preach! No I work away a lot on the rigs so no point in a buildthread that and I'm lazy haha. Ahh really, where are you based? i'm based west of Shetland.... I always find it hard to find the time to do a build thread, but i really want to try keep to one this time haha!
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