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Mar 19, 2018 20:51:28 GMT
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1929 Ford Model A Roadster, BF7875, A449 Herefordshire 18/03/18 Green 1929 Ford Model A Roadster reg BF7875 was stolen from a layby on the A449 between Ross on Wye & Much Marcle on Sunday 18th March 2018. The car, which had been competing in the Vintage Sports Car Club Herefordshire Trial on the Saturday was parked up in the layby on a trailer. Due to adverse weather the owner deemed it unsafe to continue his journey towing the car so left it in the layby. When he returned to collect the car on the Sunday, it along with the trailer had gone. Witnesses saw the car still in the layby at 16:15 on Sunday so it was taken after that time. The car is completely standard & is green with black fenders & beige wire wheels
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voodoo57
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Did it have a tracker or 2 fitted? things are ridiculous! so many thefts it's a joke! but none of us are laughing! No matter what you have, you need to do all you can to prevent your car being stolen, or at least fit something that may enable you to locate it before it's in bits. seeing something like this Model A in the stolen section shows that there is a market out there for virtually anything! And the annoying thing is no matter how much we complain about 'big brother' watching us, there never seems to be a camera on a post nearby to help us out......
Good luck in your search.
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Mar 20, 2018 11:48:38 GMT
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Not many places to hide a tracker on a car of this age
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Mar 20, 2018 16:19:56 GMT
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Might be worth getting the details of the trailer, probably a chancer seeing a easy trailer grab.
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Mar 20, 2018 21:47:16 GMT
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Might be worth getting the details of the trailer, probably a chancer seeing a easy trailer grab. www.flickr.com/photos/d1661trains/40860964951Pic showing the car on the trailer, taken by the photographer a few days before it was stolen.
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dazaaa
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Mar 22, 2018 11:31:05 GMT
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Did the owner seriously think a trailer left in a layby with (presumably) no lock or wheel clamp would be safe? Serious question.
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Mar 23, 2018 20:00:49 GMT
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voodoo57
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Mar 23, 2018 21:22:58 GMT
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Fantastic news!
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Mar 23, 2018 22:19:10 GMT
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That’s great news
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Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Mar 24, 2018 10:24:40 GMT
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Great news
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Mar 24, 2018 13:25:21 GMT
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not moved very far at all then.
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Yes good news but i don't think it was a good idea to leave it out in the open for ant tom dick or harry to pick it up and take it away . don't deserve to have it in my eyes .
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PHUQ
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Jun 19, 2018 11:42:31 GMT
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Yes good news but i don't think it was a good idea to leave it out in the open for ant tom dick or harry to pick it up and take it away . don't deserve to have it in my eyes . I can't imagine it was exactly done through choice! From memory there was heavy snowfall at the time and he presumably decided that leaving it in the layby was a lower risk than continuing his journey. I don't think many people would have made the decision to abandon their pride and jot at the side of the road lightly. a) if you don't know the circumstances then keep the condescending comments to yourself b) congratulations. By cheerfully blaming the owner you've joined the ranks of people in this country who seem determined to blame everyone but the actual culprits for any wrongdoing...
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Jun 19, 2018 13:00:19 GMT
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Yes sir sorry sir / If you did not know , free speech is for any one ,and not just for the few . No one else to blame only op . .. Put it this way, if the car was never found who would take the blame insurance wise . The owner that discarded his car .
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PHUQ
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Jun 19, 2018 14:00:45 GMT
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Ahh yes, the good old "free speech m8" comeback, a fine refuge for those who fail to fully engage brain before mouth (or, more typically, keyboard) and then get pulled up on it.
And, erm, no, the blame would lie with the thief. The insurance company would no doubt penalise the owner, and more than likely try and wriggle out of their obligations (because that's what they do), but nonetheless, the ultimate responsibility and therefore blame for the theft of the vehicle would in fact lie with the person(s) that stole it. To suggest anything else is frankly preposterous.
Perhaps since he so clearly doesn't deserve to have it then he should give it to you and you can carefully leave it in secure storage because taking it out would be irresponsible with so many thieves around, blamelessly going about their business. Except then someone else would exercise their right to free speech and claim that you don't deserve to have it either because you selfishly leave it sat locked away where no-one can see it when it should be being used as it was originally intended and where it can be enjoyed by all...
OK, so maybe I'm being a bit overdramatic but if we all took your attitude then the thieves win every time.
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Rob M
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Jun 19, 2018 16:32:19 GMT
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Ahh yes, the good old "free speech m8" comeback, a fine refuge for those who fail to fully engage brain before mouth (or, more typically, keyboard) and then get pulled up on it. And, erm, no, the blame would lie with the thief. The insurance company would no doubt penalise the owner, and more than likely try and wriggle out of their obligations (because that's what they do), but nonetheless, the ultimate responsibility and therefore blame for the theft of the vehicle would in fact lie with the person(s) that stole it. To suggest anything else is frankly preposterous. Perhaps since he so clearly doesn't deserve to have it then he should give it to you and you can carefully leave it in secure storage because taking it out would be irresponsible with so many thieves around, blamelessly going about their business. Except then someone else would exercise their right to free speech and claim that you don't deserve to have it either because you selfishly leave it sat locked away where no-one can see it when it should be being used as it was originally intended and where it can be enjoyed by all... OK, so maybe I'm being a bit overdramatic but if we all took your attitude then the thieves win every time. Hold on, hold on. To be absolutely fair, he was not the first person to question the wisdom of leaving the car where it was or whether any form of theft deterent was in situ. I get the notion that people should not be demonised if their cars are stolen but, honestly, there have been cars stolen that have been rather expensive and have had absolutely no anti theft device fitted whatsoever. Yes, we should not let the thieves win but are you suggesting that I leave my front door open when I go to work in the morning because doing so is exercising my fundamental right to live without fear of being burgled? As car owners we have a duty of care to do all we can to ensure that our cars are as hard to steal as is humanly possible, it is a sad fact of life that scum are out there ready to pounce and we have to deter them from doing so, it is war. Moreover, making your car harder to steal doesn't just mean that you are more likely to keep your pride and joy, it makes it more likely that fewer cars will be stolen and fewer payouts by insurers will take place which, ultimately, MAY reduce all of or premiums long term. The reasons for this car being left where it was may well be perfectly understandable but too many are going missing because owners have a cavalier attitude to security of their cars, happy to keep £10k secure in a bank but also happy to leave £10ks worth of car locked in single car garage block and not visited for months. You can bet your life if it was £10k of cash sitting on the garage floor it would be visited, like, OFTEN. Lets have some balance, common sense and less assumptions that nobody can be a little more security conscious.
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Yes sir sorry sir / If you did not know , free speech is for any one ,and not just for the few . No one else to blame only op . .. Put it this way, if the car was never found who would take the blame insurance wise . The owner that discarded his car . Smart Alec comments like this endear you to nobody mate. You just confirm people's idea that you are a fool, based on your previous post about the owner not deserving the car. Rather let people think you a fool than confirming their suspicions. Nobody,apart from the owner knows the reason as why it was deemed necessary to leave the car unattended. As already pointed out,it surely wasn't a decision lightly taken. Let's just be happy that the vehicle was recovered,after all, that's what this section is for. 😊
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Last Edit: Jun 20, 2018 5:41:43 GMT by Deleted
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PHUQ
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Jun 20, 2018 11:26:44 GMT
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No argument to that Zeb, completely logical and fair assessment of the situation to me.
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Jun 20, 2018 18:24:44 GMT
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Just glad the owner has his car back Whatever the reasons it was left unattended
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Fraud owners club member 1999 Jaguar s type 1993 ford escort
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Jun 20, 2018 20:15:35 GMT
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Towing a trailer in the snow can be damn dangerous, don’t blame the owner at all. And it wasn’t for long either, overnight is a short time. I grenaded a gearbox a number of years ago and was warned by local mates not to leave it where it was. Called a recovery truck, dragged home. If it hadn’t been available, I would have been making that awkward decision to let my pride and joy in a playground car park seeping it’s vital fluids out.
Good to see it has been recovered.
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