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Jan 21, 2018 21:29:03 GMT
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So looking at a second toy and well getting some ideas from the apocalypse style and wondering can I get away with removing the bonnet skin leaving the structural frame smoothing and rough edges and filling the gaps with mesh
Cause I know not great for the electrics but just be a swop over bonnet for shows and sunny days
What’s your thoughts as there will be no access to moving parts etc
Cheers
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Jan 21, 2018 21:32:29 GMT
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Jan 21, 2018 22:47:22 GMT
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I'm not saying "Don't do it" but things to consider : moving parts / sharp edges / bits sticking out (think of the nuns, children, pedestrians etc...) expect to get lots of attention (not all of it good) from police etc. will it upset your insurers? Pics when done please
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lee337
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I'm pretty sure the MOT rules state that sharp edges are only a problem if caused by damage or corrosion, yours would be a modification so should be okay.
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Jan 22, 2018 12:14:54 GMT
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I'm pretty sure the MOT rules state that sharp edges are only a problem if caused by damage or corrosion, yours would be a modification so should be okay. That's for the MoT. If you get stopped by the police and the officer considers your car to be dangerous, the requirements of the MoT test are academic. The law says: Using vehicle in dangerous condition etc. A person is guilty of an offence if he uses, or causes or permits another to use, a motor vehicle or trailer on a road when— (a)the condition of the motor vehicle or trailer, or of its accessories or equipment, or (b)the purpose for which it is used, or (c)the number of passengers carried by it, or the manner in which they are carried, or (d)the weight, position or distribution of its load, or the manner in which it is secured,is such that the use of the motor vehicle or trailer involves a danger of injury to any person. I love the idea but as nomad says, it would be wise to tread carefully.
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93fxdl
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Jan 22, 2018 12:16:46 GMT
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Any "sharp" edges would be a no no, how about a roll back fabric cover over a the bare framework. Tonnau(?) cover style
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Jan 22, 2018 12:43:41 GMT
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As long as the edges are painted it will pass an MOT but depending on how obvious it is in casual police car drive-bys you're likely to get stopped and asked to remove offensive parts there and then or risk it being seized.
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Jan 22, 2018 15:12:16 GMT
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Would having perspex over the top give you issues with the look you're after? Smooth external surface , see through so from a distance you wouldn't know its there (other than reflection) and you should be able to buy in full sized sheets from a plastics dealer. No idea how resistive it'll be to sag from the engine bay heat thought. it does get done
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Jan 22, 2018 21:38:07 GMT
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Damm never though about the nuns maybe I should re think lol
And yes I was trying to way up the sharp edges as after all even if I smooth them out there’s still going to be ridges they could pick up on.
Not sure about running with perpex as yeah risk of engine fire and might not look that great had thought about it tho
Was thinking what it I but a thin mess over the whole bonnet so no edges would be accessible and would not ruin the look think it would look good to be honest but still depends how pc pull over feels on the day I guess
Still in the planning stages but defo a plan is forming in my head
Need to pick a car got to be under 500 and something bigger than a corsa etc but needs something with a good style got a few ideas but not picked yet
Cheers for the feedback so far
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Jan 23, 2018 16:50:12 GMT
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Hot rodders have been running exposed engines- either fully or just open sides, forever and most of them seem to get away with it, but then again they are older (30s/40s cars) and people generally get the whole look. Then again I've heard of people getting punished for exposed blower drives through the bonnet.
I think any modification that's a bit challenging or against the grain is going to attract the wrong sort of attention, and while it may conform to the letter of the law, do you want to keep having to prove so, after having been stopped?
Personal opinion- a perspex bonnet will look bobbins as soon as it gets dirty or scratched
How feasible would it be to separate the skin from the frame and have it attached with dzus fasteners or similar for normal use and easily removable for shows etc?
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Jan 23, 2018 21:51:53 GMT
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As already said about the exposed parts that can cause a danger to pedestrians can get you in bother, your biggest concern will be insurance as I'd be surprised if anyone would cover a modern car with effectively no bonnet.
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Last Edit: Jan 23, 2018 21:54:31 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 23, 2018 21:54:01 GMT
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Hot rodders have been running exposed engines- either fully or just open sides,? with a large radiator cowling at the front so direct impact would deflect a pedestrian away from the engine (in theory) not scoop them over the bumper and into the open engine bay.
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Jan 23, 2018 23:14:42 GMT
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As already said about the exposed parts that can cause a danger to pedestrians can get you in bother, your biggest concern will be insurance as I'd be surprised if anyone would cover a modern car with effectively no bonnet. Should be no access to moving parts as all would be meshed over though trying to explain that to the insurance company could be fun tho Let’s call it a modified bonnet lol
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what about going mad with a hole saw and dimple die on the actual skin then meshing underneath? ie this sort of thing, but moar and with mesh spot-welded underneath? or what about louvres? then you still have the bonnet, but can still see inside, and aren't really contravening anything ("It's for cooling" etc)
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So ... swop over bonnet for shows and sunny days ? 1. choose a hatchback / estate / van with a boot big enough to fit a spare bonnet in (or get a saloon with a roof rack) 2. Get a spare bonnet and "Mad Max" it anyway you like 3. Drive to shows etc with the "Mad Max" bonnet in the boot, swap bonnets at the gate and drive onto the show field
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My sons old Metro now gone, but Police stopped him lots of times didnt like wheels and a couple of other bits but no problem with bonnet
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Jan 24, 2018 23:01:20 GMT
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So ... swop over bonnet for shows and sunny days ? 1. choose a hatchback / estate / van with a boot big enough to fit a spare bonnet in (or get a saloon with a roof rack) 2. Get a spare bonnet and "Mad Max" it anyway you like 3. Drive to shows etc with the "Mad Max" bonnet in the boot, swap bonnets at the gate and drive onto the show field Basically cos be fun to have it on the road too lol
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Jan 24, 2018 23:03:27 GMT
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My sons old Metro now gone, but Police stopped him lots of times didnt like wheels and a couple of other bits but no problem with bonnet 2 things there first that’s an awesome looking metro love it And second thanks thinking that idea with the bonnet frame under it so should work the same Thanks
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My sons old Metro now gone, but Police stopped him lots of times didnt like wheels and a couple of other bits but no problem with bonnet Quite like that. would the next level be a spiderweb for a bonnet Ttfn Glenn
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Nice Metro. I was just about to suggest that as an alternative you cut out large sections of the bonnet skin and lay in the mesh from underneath. That's more or less what this Metro has. It should be possible to make a mesh skin without having any undue sharp edges though, even if that meant you had to crimp a u-strip around the edge of the mesh. That would actually be a good look I think.
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