ivangt6
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Nice repair on the body mount. It looks like you will find less bodges on your Range Rover compared to the GT6. Cleaning up other people bodges or shortcuts is frustrating and takes much more time as reference point are often no longer there. Peter Its a refreshing change. I think I'm going to have to cut half the right hand floor out of the GT6 so that the bottom of the A-pillar is weak enough to move it to its proper position
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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looks much the same as mine did, I also found it was easier to cut larger areas back to sound metal, there are plenty of pics in my thread if it is any help. In answer to your earlier question, the front wheelarch plastic liners were fitted to the later soft dash vehicles, they can be retrofitted but create their own rust traps around the inner wing.
Kevin.
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The early RRs were built more like the series LRs. The inner wings unbolt from the bulkhead. The sidemembers (which comprises A,B,C pillars , rear wheel tub and sill etc unbolts from the bulkhead and tailgate frame. The floors unbolt. Its a nice design and the metal is quite thick. The Roof unbolts but possibly this is still the case on the 90s models. Have a look at my shell in bits here forum.retro-rides.org/thread/50390?page=4
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75 Range Rover 2 door 82 Range Rover 4 door 84 Range Rover 4 door 78 Datsun 120Y 2 door 78 Datsun 620 Pickup 81 Datsun Urvan E23 86 Datsun Vanette van 98 Electric Citroen Berlingo 00 Electric Peugeot Partner 02 Electric Citroen Berlingo 04 Berlingo Multispace petrol 07 Land Rover 130 15 Nissan E-NV200 15 Fiat Ducato
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ivangt6
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The early RRs were built more like the series LRs. The inner wings unbolt from the bulkhead. The sidemembers (which comprises A,B,C pillars , rear wheel tub and sill etc unbolts from the bulkhead and tailgate frame. The floors unbolt. Its a nice design and the metal is quite thick. The Roof unbolts but possibly this is still the case on the 90s models. Have a look at my shell in bits here forum.retro-rides.org/thread/50390?page=4Aah I see what you mean. Essentially the steel underframe is all bolted together as well as the outer panels. Very useful when it comes to restoration. Mine has a welded together steel frame and all the aluminium outer panels are bolted on. The roof is bolted on too. I think the only bit of steel not welded on is the floor, but that's been replaced with an aluminium one. Interesting how they changed over their relatively long lifespan
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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ivangt6
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looks much the same as mine did, I also found it was easier to cut larger areas back to sound metal, there are plenty of pics in my thread if it is any help. In answer to your earlier question, the front wheelarch plastic liners were fitted to the later soft dash vehicles, they can be retrofitted but create their own rust traps around the inner wing. Kevin. Interesting about the liners. My Discovery has them and It had rusted more than the Range Rover has. Just reading through your thread now. It looks like your range rover might have been the same colour as mine? Cypress Green
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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yes I believe mine was cypress green, (well various different shades of it). On mine there quite a few areas of lacquer peel (looked like previous repairs)and many areas where the paint was beginning to lift from the alloy, I went for a flat color in cellulose over epoxy primer as I can make a passable job of it at home and it is far easier to repair if it gets damaged.
Kevin
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ivangt6
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Evening All Todays mischief Floor. Done! Other nasty bits. Done! Apart from this And this at the front below the battery tray. That half welded patch isn't my work. This looked suspicious Cut out, wire wheel applied and a lick of bilt hamber This was a patch over the top of rust. pretty easy to re-make though In place but ran out of time to weld it in. That bilt hamber stuff is supposed to cure for a day before you overpaint it anyway It didn't all go well though. While I was welding in the footwell the work light I was using tipped onto the steering wheel and melted it It was in very good condition. Also smacked my hand using the vice. The bar on it is bent and it span while I was trying to undo it. Lots of swelling, hopefully nothing untoward. The front RH side isn't far off completion now which leads me to looking at what else needs doing. There's a small bit of welding needed on the RH sill about midway along, same on the LH side. It needs welding to the LH rear wheel tub and LH footwell, although the LH footwell area looks in much better nick than the RH side. Theres also the RH side of the boot floor that needs doing. I think I'm going to have to order more steel. I think the tailgate might have a leak Annoyingly the glass has grinding rash in it, along with the Rh rear side glass. I have most of the bits to give it a service now along with brake line This was the air filter And judging by that, I think its long overdue a service More soon
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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ivangt6 said That happened to me with my R21 - melted some interior molding. Keep at it, soon you'll be rollin' like the Queen rockin' up to Balmoral
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Good progress, annoying when things like tge steering wheel happen but not the end of the world, I managed to repair several cigarette burns on my centre console almost invisibly using the vinyl repair kits and dyes widely available.
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unfortunate with the steering wheel, thats where LED work lights are much better!
wont keep you warm in a draughty workshop mind!
the very late classics are constructed from a lot of the same welded in panels as the D1, areas like the footwell, outriggers, possibly even the wheel tub at the front too!
iirc even the whole door will fit.
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ivangt6
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unfortunate with the steering wheel, thats where LED work lights are much better! wont keep you warm in a draughty workshop mind! the very late classics are constructed from a lot of the same welded in panels as the D1, areas like the footwell, outriggers, possibly even the wheel tub at the front too! iirc even the whole door will fit. The one thing those older style worklights are good for is the heat. Useful for keeping me warm, warming paint cans and drying it too. Yeah the floors seem identical to the floors on the disco. In fact the rust is identical! I should be able to fit the same underslung lpg tanks to it that are on the Disco too
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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When I did my 74 RR a few years back the boot floor was aluminium - unlike the camel D1 which is steel. I used YRM panels for the D1 and the fit was excellent - thankfully the RR doesn't have the Alpine windows as they tend to rot.
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Ignosce mihi cacare necesse est
2012 Fiat Qubo Sadly currently living a retroless life
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iirc even the whole door will fit. The doors will fit, but the outer panels have different profiles for styling purposes. Range Rover boot floors are longer than the Disco ones also. If you can, it's worth getting gas tanks that fit in place of the original petrol tank and have a smaller petrol tank up behind the inner wing. Put an upright doughnut tank in where the spare wheel would be and you've got around 130 litres of usable gas capacity without hanging tanks below the chassis, or losing boot space.
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ivangt6
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I was thinking of going with the underslung tanks initially and then maybe the spare wheel one and petrol tank replacement at a later date. I may even rob the system thats currently on the Disco. Theres a lot of work to go before I can think of that sort of stuff yet though!
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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Good Work. I had underslungs on my 93 3.9. That car did 12mpg on petrol and 9 on gas LOL. If they had put decent engines in those things they'd have been a good car. Couldn't fault the auto transmission, or the handling, driving position and visibility. It was already on its second engine and the car only had 100K on it ! I bet a Lexus engine would be great in one of those.
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75 Range Rover 2 door 82 Range Rover 4 door 84 Range Rover 4 door 78 Datsun 120Y 2 door 78 Datsun 620 Pickup 81 Datsun Urvan E23 86 Datsun Vanette van 98 Electric Citroen Berlingo 00 Electric Peugeot Partner 02 Electric Citroen Berlingo 04 Berlingo Multispace petrol 07 Land Rover 130 15 Nissan E-NV200 15 Fiat Ducato
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Bookmarked. Always wanted one of these, like forever. Have never taken the plunge due to scary unreliable stories from everyone I know that have had them. All bar none had ones that looked great but kept letting them down with scary bills etc. Still want one lol.
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96 E320 W210 Wafter - on 18" split Mono's - Sold :-( 10 Kia Ceed Sportwagon - Our new daily 03 Import Forester STi - Sold 98 W140 CL500 AMG - Brutal weekend bruiser! Sold :-( 99 E240 S210 Barge - Now sold 02 Accord 2.0SE - wife's old daily - gone in PX 88 P100 2.9efi Custom - Sold
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mine has dual underslung tanks but it really could do with more capacity, they hold around 40 litres which at the 11-12 mpg I get on LPG around town (have seen 14 on a longer run) only gives a range of around 100 miles. One to replace the spare and then strap the spare on the boot floor so it can be removed if the original boot capacity is required seems the best option to me. I'm not sure about a much smaller fuel tank, there have been times when LPG is not available that I have had to drive 100 miles or more on Petrol.
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Last Edit: Jan 8, 2018 19:03:35 GMT by kevins
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cracking job on that footwell and supporting structure. now that travellers have moved onto the L322 when they want to try and buy some class for 5 grand, the RRC and maybe even P38 have moved into the realms of bona fide classic car/enthusiast vehicle. look forward to more updates
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ivangt6
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mine has dual underslung tanks but it really could do with more capacity, they hold around 40 litres which at the 11-12 mpg I get on LPG around town (have seen 14 on a longer run) only gives a range of around 100 miles. One to replace the spare and then strap the spare on the boot floor so it can be removed if the original boot capacity is required seems the best option to me. I'm not sure about a much smaller fuel tank, there have been times when LPG is not available that I have had to drive 1 miles or more on Petrol. This seems like a good idea. I have the underslung tanks on the Disco and they're 35 or 40 litres each I think, but with lpg you don't get that figure. I think they actually hold around 50 litres which as you say isn't particularly useful. The lpg kit need for the RR is a bit simpler than the disco as it doesn't need a stepper motor due to having no catalytic converter. I need to weigh the cost of putting an lpg kit in against what it'll actually save in fuel. My drive to work is only ten min or so, so normally an lpg kit won't even have time to warm up. So it'll be more for longer journeys, in which case I'll probably need to use the boot floor. The spare wheel tank is a good idea though and I think they're pretty big ( I think 70 or 80 litres). With that set up, I should have a real LPG capacity of between 80 and 100 litres I think. A little bit of research tells me that there are kits you can get which can give you more ignition advance on LPG to which brings back the power normally lost when using LPG. I read somewhere that LPG is around 110 octane rated? I'm sure it'll happen eventually but the challenge for 2018 will be to get the thing running properly on petrol. So far I've only driven it on and off the trailer and the alternator/water pump belt is squealing due to a seizes/poorly adjusted belt tensioner and I have noticed some play in the power steering pump pulley. And that's before I've even got the thing to go through all its gears. I don't know whether or not to take off the kit that's on the disco before I sell it as I don't think it adds any value to the car, especially as its not currently working. That's the next job anyway, to sell that.
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ivangt6
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cracking job on that footwell and supporting structure. now that travellers have moved onto the L322 when they want to try and buy some class for 5 grand, the RRC and maybe even P38 have moved into the realms of bona fide classic car/enthusiast vehicle. look forward to more updates Cheers. I'm trying to get the welding done as quickly as possible but at the same time I quite like following the original patterns that the metal is formed in. I'm Not going to go to the lengths of replacing large bits with pre-bought panels etc though, this is supposed to be a case of get the thing on the road as soon as possible, however I don't want to be re-doing the work any time soon. The value of these things is definitely on the rise. The early 2 door Range Rovers have gone through the roof. I'm hoping these later ones will follow. Having said that, this is not a particularly good example and there is a lot missing from the interior. It most likely will get some modular steel wheels, a modest lift kit and possibly a more fruity exhaust rather than a true to original restoration.
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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