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Before eBay there were real auctions. In line with my "get the funk off the computer and go find some real life to take part in" revolution which I am spearheading, citizen smith style, I have been down the auctions this morning (as I was sort of passing) and decided to see what retro and tat action was on offer, as last time I went down a while back it seemed to have declined a bit since the glory days I bought Capris there for £70 a time and drove them home with my BMX in the back LOL. Nope on eBay you don't get to mingle with the hoi-paloi and drink odd tasting coffee and eat over priced undercooked burgers while watching the auctioneer shill bidding some ropey old nail up to its reserve to max his commission... Closest thing to a cheap Capri was this Volvo 480 I guess Looked tidyish, a few auction car park marks on it (they take SUCH good care with cars over 5 years old, yeah) Although this was in the prime banger spot followed by the later being pretty clean if a little faded, as new interior and 88K. I bet it doesn't make more than £100. Not really retro though huh? So lets get back in there and see what there is to see... Pug more like it? Sytner trade in apparently. As was this L reg Saab. Looked nice and tidy. Couple of years ago I bought a J palter here for £170 so I predict a similar sale price for this one. With typical care and attention this one is being driven round the auction with a flat tyre, but hey. Maybe this MX6 is more of the Capri. Looked tidy until you seaw a fair few dings where doors have been opened against it and the like. cloudy looking paint. It will be on eBay by this evening or some bomb-site car lot in Bulwell. Bubble Micra looked like new in almost every respect. Lots of trader interest in this one. But other than that the hall was mostly like this Bland moderns being flogged off. Litterally by the hundred. A few more exec cars there. There were a couple of early / mid 90s BMW 730s I bet go very cheap. If you fancy any of these, dash down they are going through as I type. Its BCA at Victoria Park, Colwick, Nottm. You'll probably find that the smaller "provincial" car auctions like the one in Leicester and Newark will still have more bangers and retro tat in them. They used to be really great tat finding grounds.
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Last Edit: Sept 7, 2007 10:01:47 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Sept 7, 2007 10:10:14 GMT
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I've never attended an auction, but have always wanted too. Can we find out what sort of prices they make?
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MrT
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Just who did Mr Hitler REALLY think he was kidding?
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Sept 7, 2007 10:11:01 GMT
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At least your auctions are undercover! I go nearly every week (sometimes twice a week) to Milton Keynes auctions, and only the bidding area's under cover. And MK auctions is full of 'odd bidders': cars that should make good money (tidy late 90's/early 00's Vectra's, etc) sell for nothing, yet scrapyard-ready early/mid 90's junk (Astras and Mondeo's, mainly) sell for well over the odds - usually anywhere between £600 and £1000 Not much to be has retro-wise, either. In the past few weeks, there have been a couple of shonky Fronteras, a dog-rough 190E, a mint MK2 Golf GTi 3 door and a tidy N reg Passat TDi 'wagon... Coffee, chips and burgers are great though...
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Sept 7, 2007 10:14:55 GMT
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I've found that our local auction halls rarely have anything cheap & interesting in them.
The 4 and 5 year old smaller ex-lease stuff flies out mega cheap to be shifted by small dealers & eBay merchants easy enough, but I've noticed alot of things going up to retail levels of pricing... why? Because you have numpties in there, a raft of private buyers bidiing against each other for a "bargain", which inevitable doesn't look so cheap. Classics make some very daft money - seen some very ropey Jags make three times what they would reach on eBay, plus a parped dolly sprint (fake) made £1500 and a Humber Sceptre Mk3 in average nick went for nigh on £2k. And the feeding frenzy among the well-tanned mini-cab drivers whenever a Toyota Avensis enters the hall has to be seen to be believed.
That said, browsing through the Most Excellent Classic Car Weekly (mine's a pint please Dollywobbler) there's quite a few irregular provincial sales of classic & retro only grot, that I'm sure gets overlooked by dimwits who only pick up the 'whats on' from the local free paper. If I had my time again, I'd be cruising these like a shark, bunch of twenties in the sky rocket and a flatbed outside on tickover.... ;D
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qwerty
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Sept 7, 2007 10:16:36 GMT
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Hmmm I'm gunna pop down to the next public auction I can. Although I'll be so tempted to bid I dunno how i'll control myself ;D
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Sept 7, 2007 10:18:17 GMT
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I've never attended an auction, but have always wanted too. Can we find out what sort of prices they make? You should. Its ace. I accidentally once bought a Mk1 Escort for £80 which was rotten as a pear and had to leg it out of Leicester auctions as I was actually just pointing the way to the toilet to a mate.... "proper" places like BCA you need to bid properly though. Although I swear he took my sneeze as a bid on a rotten £40 Nova a couple of years back LOL. Thing I find is a lot of the "mid range" stuff you can buy privately as cheap as you can in the auction. And if you buy private you get a test drive. But some stuff is cheap. I remember seeing litterally 70 or 80 Daewoo Matizes with delivery miles only on them go for £2800 - £3200 depending on colour a few years back. Only way to find out what they make is to go there and watch. Its deliberatly focussed on meeting the needs of trade buyers who turn up in person on the day and not internet private buyers.... Also the hammer price is not always the price. Many cars have reserves on them. I bought a Cavalier Mk2 1.6GL In hearing aid beige a wqhile back for £110 bid and the reserve was more but they nodded it through at that, another one I bid on (I forget it might have been a really mint Capri I bid to £210 had like a £300 reserve and I had to wait around and the garage got back to the auctioneer (by phone) and said they's take £250 which is what I paid. If its nowhere near the reserve they won;t even put your bid forward.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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street
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Sept 7, 2007 10:22:47 GMT
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Ace stuff! I used to go regularly to the auctions when I was at school with my mate. We'd ride there straight after school and just look around the cars, looking forward to the day when we were old enough to drive and window shopping for that holiest of moments when we'd be buying our first cars! Your right though, there used to be older stuff there all the time. I remember mk1 Astras, mk3/4 Escorts, Capri's, Marinas etc etc. Some of the crappier examples bieng towed through! My mate was always looking over cars that were about 10 years old at the time, telling me boring facts about crash safety ratings and single point injection........ I was always coveting the £70 heaps, imagining taking one home and making it into something special, totting up the restoration work in my mind etc Funny how people often start out as you mean to go on, even at that age
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bigrod
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Sept 7, 2007 10:23:15 GMT
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I love going to the car auctions although I've never bought anything at one. My mate's bought a few cars, (Capri/Renault 5/ SrsIII Jag and a couple of others), and has always had fairly good results. I'm always terrified to move though in case I bid by accident. One time I was veeery tepmted to bid on a white Srs III Jag. Just out of the paint shop with 10 months MOT on it, it was larvely. Sold for £95 IIRC. I was skint at the time though!!
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Sept 7, 2007 11:19:52 GMT
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I go pretty regularly when I'm in the uk, and have bought nearly all my daily drivers from them. A long list of cavaliers and the odd pug 405, all with a years mot and all went for £100 or so. I ran them for the year then scrapped them or flogged them again at the auction. Never got less than £30 back. £70 for a years motoring isnt too bad. The most expensive thing I bought was a 98 406 estate which I paid £600 for, but it was minty mint , years mot and full service history. Ran it for a year and sold it for £750. There are 2 auctions in aberdeen area. The main Scottish motor auction place in town is rammed with 2 or 3 year old cars which are trade-ins at the main dealers or ex motability cars. There is rarely anythig older than about R or S reg nowadays. There is another auction at Thainstone which although is following the other place and selling newer cars, you do still find the odd older thing. This is where i got 90% of my stuff from.
Best auction memory was some young guy there with his mates bidding on and winning an older style Supra. I was outside collecting my newly bought Punto (for my sister) when he collected it. He gave it some beans while turning out the car-park, fishtailed it left-right-left and piled it into a concrete bollard at about 30mph all of 100 meters down the road. He wasnt amused, his mates were stunned into silence, the police took an interest (they often sit outside the gates and check people leaving have insurance/tax etc ) and I laughed my ass off.
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1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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Sept 7, 2007 11:32:51 GMT
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I used to enjoy going to the old Ipswich Car Auctions, they moved from one one-step-away-from-demolition building to another and dragged the same bunch of ne’er do wells and characterful traders with them (like the chap who has a service road full of 4wd’s in Colchester).
It was interesting getting there early enough to see what tat they’d bring with them, then see them bidding it up themselves in collusion with the auctioneer so they’d get a decent price off some hapless private punter.
I sold my tatty high-miles B11 Sunny there in 1994, made £170 (with no assistance from me!). Recall a 180B getting up to £35, think it had gone in to a main dealers on one of those minimum £1500 p/ex type things, which just goes to show how much the dealers could afford to lose…
Some stuff used to go through week after week, and the place resembled a scrapyard in the late 90’s when p/ex’s were worth zilch, before the scrap price boom meant they just got sent straight to the crusher.
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Garry
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Sept 7, 2007 11:50:22 GMT
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Newark's 'Death Row' usually turns up some bargains, like a Y-reg 4dr Golf mk1, retro roofrack and handpainted blue exterior (red doorcaps let on the original paint), went for £60 last month.
My old MG Maestro 2.0 (E-Reg) was £100 with 6 months MOT and some tax.
My mate's Dad is a truck driver for them, gets pick of the cars coming in, like a red 95 Cavalier, near mint, 56k (genuine) and FSH, £175.
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Sept 7, 2007 12:47:15 GMT
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i used to go quite alot but there was never anything interesting at em so ive stopped going, i did see some mk2 golfs knocking about tho, i might go back and see what knocking about
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Sept 7, 2007 16:11:28 GMT
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Nooooooooooooo! This is making me miss my bestest ever job at our local auction as a driver. Best job in the wold ever: curse word pay, always in a rush and the majority of the customers were complete t*ssers but I loved the job. Always plenty of old bangers in and got to drive some nice ones round the block and always funny to drive the tarted up wibblepoo the regulars put through. Got regular offers of bribes not to rev cars up, open bonnets etc and was often asked to turn the radios up full blast and lock the doors so people wouldn't ask me to open the bonnet etc! Used to go down on my week off from my normal job and always got a few good runs out driving all manner of motors back and it was ace. It also meant I got to drive cars which I later bid on so I knew what they were like plus got to see reserves and up offers that the regular paupers/mingebags had made. Hard to say what the best part was but people in the trade who regulary used to try and pull my pants down on the rubbish they were selling getting owned by buying complete lemons was always a good laugh. Couldn't beat driving some absolute junk round and telling the t*ssers that it was a really nice car with loads of clutch and power steering (when they were nothing of the sort) and watching them try and drive off was pure comedy. Auctions closed and later re-opened by a totally different outfit who I would trust as far as I could throw a full sized working DC10.
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Corsa Apology Champion 2014.
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Padz
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Personal Plates ftw
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Sept 7, 2007 17:28:49 GMT
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used to like going to the auctions with my old man when i was younger, usually Blackbushe but occasionally Nottingham, Measham, Bridgwater, Enfield etc
most local auction to me now is West Oxfordshire, which used to be full of ol' wibblepoo
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"I'd rather lie in a bath of my own excrement than own a Vectra " - 2002gimp 25/1/07 "Anal Alert would be an absolutely superb name for piles cream " - Hirst 28/1/08 1991 - Peugeot 205 GTI 1996 - Rover Mini Cooper
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Sept 7, 2007 17:31:19 GMT
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I'm quite often down Enfield and I have to agree with Pog - anything "interesting" is snapped up for silly money.
Last week I watched an MR2 (early 90s one), non turbo, go for 3.5k reserve not met. Identical to about 4 others on autotrader, all at 1.5k..........
Haven't seen anything 'interesting' through Enfield though, I.e. retro, there for a while though - apart from the odd XJ40 or XJ6.......
Some nice ex-police Defenders & Discos though...
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Last Edit: Sept 7, 2007 17:32:38 GMT by Lewis
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I used to go in Radcliffe quite often. Never bought anything but came perilously close once or twice. I always enjoy watching the comedy car dealers at work. Especially in the days when the mobile phone was a new invention and came with a booster pack strapped underneath.
Might have to venture into a proper auction for my wife's next car.
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Jaguar S-Type 3.0 SE
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Sept 8, 2007 10:00:32 GMT
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I used to go to Stoke auctions with my Uncle and my Dad. My uncle was a foden trained HGV fitter, so he did al his own maintenance/rebuild work and could spot a "goodun"/Lemon/Cheap potential a mile off.
I drive past Belle Vue BCA everyday. I do want to nip in sometimes.
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Sept 8, 2007 11:28:28 GMT
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I used to go in Radcliffe quite often. Never bought anything but came perilously close once or twice. I always enjoy watching the comedy car dealers at work. Especially in the days when the mobile phone was a new invention and came with a booster pack strapped underneath. Might have to venture into a proper auction for my wife's next car. Oh Radcliffe Auction, with the dodgy model car with flashing headlights on the office roof, and the biggest collection of decaying tat I've ever seen in one place!!!! Is it still open? Might have a venture down for old times sake!
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Sept 8, 2007 16:11:19 GMT
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I used to go to Stoke auctions with my Uncle and my Dad. My uncle was a foden trained HGV fitter, so he did al his own maintenance/rebuild work and could spot a "goodun"/Lemon/Cheap potential a mile off. I drive past Belle Vue BCA everyday. I do want to nip in sometimes. Wheres Stoke auctions? Didnt think there were any round here. I used to go to Moseley road banger auctions in Brum a while back, just to watch. It was fascinating and many of the cars went though ultra cheap, mint allegro for £50 and cavaliers and sierras rarely topping £150. Any diesel merc of ANY age and condition always went for mega money though, as did any minicab fodder. Some very dodgy characters milling about and some cars with serious and dangerous faults that were obviously just being offloaded onto some poor mug. Many cars were part exchanges from local dealerships and were in great condition, real bragains- it really is the raw edge of car trading but sooo much fun! don't make eye contact with the auctioneer and then nod your head to a comment your friend makes as youll end up buying a G reg passat as I did a while back. Got a bollocking for that one!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Sept 8, 2007 18:21:34 GMT
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