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Aug 17, 2017 23:24:40 GMT
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Hi All, Having bought our first house at the end of the year before last and spent the intervening time doing the usual decorating, remodelling, choosing of curtain fabrics - oh, and having a baby, it's taken me until now to get on with the thing that I've been itching to do since we moved in - the garage! Here it is just after having poured the concrete for the base - forgot to take pics but base extended all the way round with reinforcing mesh tied in to the existing base with lengths of rebar inserted into base sides. The existing garage is a concrete sectional job with cheap, nasty doors, no windows, no gutters and it's clearly too small The good thing about it is that it's fairly new and so the roof is not asbestos, it's in good condition and it is easy to take apart and err, shall we say 'reconfigure'? The plan then is to take it all down and use all the concrete wall sections in the left and rear walls as you see it in the pic, put in a whacking great big door in the front and make a new side wall facing the garden out of wood, for better breathability and aesthetics, with added windowy and doory goodness and add some translucent roofing sheets into the extended roof - all on the stringiest of shoe-string budgets. Will put some progress pics up if anyone's interested..
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Aug 17, 2017 23:27:26 GMT
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Pic of the hopeful future occupant waiting patiently outside..
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zook71
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Always interested in someone else's garagey goodness - lead on, chevette looks ace!!
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Yup.
Build away.
We will be watching.
A big door is a great addition, as is a side door for humans, trust me, there will be many days you need a side door, if it is not already in your planned changes.
Just to really mess with your head........
There exists extenders for concrete posts, you may be able to add a full course of panels to the existing left and rear side........
If you can, do so.
The extra height makes a huge difference, and also will allow you more use of the taller wooden side.
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Aug 18, 2017 11:45:50 GMT
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I'm interested. I had a sectional single garage when I moved in. I bought another garage that someone had dismantled and bolted it to the side of the existing one. It was actually a really simple job. Just make sure to use a sealant between the panels to stop the rain coming in.
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Aug 18, 2017 12:52:37 GMT
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Hi, Do a local search on Ebay for a sectional garage usually 99p start and can usually be had for the time and effort to dismantle.
Colin
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Aug 19, 2017 22:11:46 GMT
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Thanks, has been off the road for a while due to the gearbox spitting its cogs out on the Oxford ring road in stop-start rush hour traffic. Had to make it the last 3 miles home stuck in 3rd gear! I always wanted to tinker with it anyway so took the opportunity to upgrade - now has most of an opel manta berlinetta 1.8 stuffed under it. It just needs a few jobs finishing off and a 'bit' of welding... Side door deffo in the plan. Wall height will stay the same for continued harmonious relations with neighbours but extra height would be nice. Yup, sealant will be going in! Trouble with most of the used sectional garages knocking about is that they're generally in poor condition and tend to have asbestos roofs - plus you've got to lug it all home somehow so went with timber as it will look better, will be more breathable so make the garage less prone to condensation and I just happen to have most of the wood for the frame knocking about waiting to be used for something anyway, so timber it is! Roof structure is angle iron so easy enough to split down the middle and extend, plus make a couple of extra frames for the added length Roof be gone! It only took me a couple of hours a few weekends ago to drop the roof on my own, once I'd stopped procrastinating and fretting about the weather Contents of garage strewn all over the garden, filling the shed and bundled up under a tarp - got to get this build done before the so called 'summer' is over! The next day I thought "In for a penny, in for a pound" and started to take the concrete sections down just to see if I could move them on my own - wow they're heavy! I didn't think they'd be too bad as the backs are scalloped out but no, still flamin' hefty. Last weekend I finished unbolting all the sections and started playing with the pieces... I found I could walk them around quite easily as long as I kept them upright - just don't let them tilt too far or you've had it The ones leaning over in the right of the pic above were a real struggle to get upright again because I couldn't get to the back of them to push without scrambling over the wood pile! All bolted in place in their new positions.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:36:15 GMT
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Update time! I got a bit more done this weekend but for now, have a pic of the brickwork for the timber side wall I did last week. Guess where the side door's going... I will put a damp proof membrane on top of the brickwork, then the timber stud walling goes on top of that. I already have a solid hardwood side door to go in courtesy of freecycle and have been keeping a close eye on ebay and gumtree for a double garage door that isn't hideous. There are plenty of up and over options available but what I really wanted was a traditional looking side hinged affair but with full width opening so 2 pairs of single doors with a pillar in the middle wouldn't work but yesterday ebay came up trumps with a very nice looking wooden sliding door, actually 4 sections, hinged together, hung from a curved rail so they slide around and down the inside wall of the garage. I've yet to decide if I will re-install them as they were intended or split them into two pairs of bi-folding doors but they look great. You'll have to wait for pics though as I wont be picking them up until late next week
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Aug 28, 2017 21:42:12 GMT
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No progress on the 'rage this weekend as I've been down in Devon for a friends wedding - yup all the way down to Devon for a couple of nights then back again, with a 7 month old in a roasting hot car, on a bank holiday weekend... But fear not, garage fans! Have a few pics of last weeks progress... Timber wall under way - notice the different shades of reclaimed wood - it's mostly re-used fence posts and wood I've had left over from other jobs as I'm a landscape gardener (probably shouldn't admit to that considering the obvious state of my own garden, but it's a work in progress, just like the garage - promise! ) On a slightly random note, see what I found 'downed' at the top of the garden. Poor little curse word didn't have a mark on him - like he just fell clean out of the sky, eyes wide open - weird! Have an unintentionally comical kestrel 'selfie' to brighten your day!
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MK2VR6
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Aug 28, 2017 22:27:22 GMT
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Love a garage thread, and the Shove-It looks like it means business as well. Sad about the kestrel - I reckon the poor curse word has picked up something with poison in/ on it at some point...
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Aug 29, 2017 20:53:25 GMT
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Love a garage thread, and the Shove-It looks like it means business as well. Sad about the kestrel - I reckon the poor curse word has picked up something with poison in/ on it at some point... Thanks mate, I hadn't thought of poison but sadly could be the case.
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Aug 30, 2017 11:57:33 GMT
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Howdee me ol' chum! Looking good on the garage reconstruction jiggery-pokery. And of course there's no garage envy going on here at all...! I've been thinking about your roof, and was wondering if it might be easier to leave the trusses you have buy extend then at either end to be more like a scissor truss like this... I know it won't be a perfect truss, but since the roofing material is lightweight it shouldn't matter and you'll gain a little extra height in the middle of the garage. Looking forward to seeing the end results either way. P.S. you're a nutter for trying to move those concrete sections on your own!! And nice Kestrel; is he going to be stuffed as a garage companion?
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village
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Aug 30, 2017 13:18:30 GMT
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I found a Sparrowhawk dead in my parents back garden when I was a kid. It had a broken neck, probably from chasing it's prey over our back fence and colliding full pelt into the 50 gal oil drum burner that was just inside the fence line.
Also zero garage envy (typed through gritted teeth)......
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"The White Van is strong with this one...."
Chris "Chesney" Allen 1976-2005 RIP
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Aug 30, 2017 21:08:49 GMT
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Howdee me ol' chum! Looking good on the garage reconstruction jiggery-pokery. And of course there's no garage envy going on here at all...! I've been thinking about your roof, and was wondering if it might be easier to leave the trusses you have buy extend then at either end to be more like a scissor truss like this... I know it won't be a perfect truss, but since the roofing material is lightweight it shouldn't matter and you'll gain a little extra height in the middle of the garage. Looking forward to seeing the end results either way. P.S. you're a nutter for trying to move those concrete sections on your own!! And nice Kestrel; is he going to be stuffed as a garage companion? Hiya! That's a good call on the scissor truss idea. I would have to cut the tabs off the ends and weld them onto the extensions as the current trusses bolt through the top of the concrete sections - they don't sit on top of the wall at all, which I found strange and was actually contemplating adding horizontal tabs so they sit on top aswell as being bolted through - esp for the timber side of the garage. Funny you should mention stuffing the kestrel - Anna pre-empted me by saying "You're not stuffing that thing and bringing it in the house" despite me never having attempted taxidermy or shown any interest in it... she knows me well I might try and make something of the wings though...
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Aug 30, 2017 21:17:12 GMT
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I found a Sparrowhawk dead in my parents back garden when I was a kid. It had a broken neck, probably from chasing it's prey over our back fence and colliding full pelt into the 50 gal oil drum burner that was just inside the fence line. Also zero garage envy (typed through gritted teeth)...... Wow, that must have been super cool to find a sparrowhawk as a kid, although sad. I remember a family friend bringing a kestrels wing in one day for me (I was mad keen on birds as a kid) as he'd seen it dead by the road and thought of me and pulled the wing off so I could have a look at it. My mum wasn't too impressed!
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Aug 30, 2017 22:54:52 GMT
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Mum's don't understand these things.
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village
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I found a Sparrowhawk dead in my parents back garden when I was a kid. It had a broken neck, probably from chasing it's prey over our back fence and colliding full pelt into the 50 gal oil drum burner that was just inside the fence line. Also zero garage envy (typed through gritted teeth)...... Wow, that must have been super cool to find a sparrowhawk as a kid, although sad. I remember a family friend bringing a kestrels wing in one day for me (I was mad keen on birds as a kid) as he'd seen it dead by the road and thought of me and pulled the wing off so I could have a look at it. My mum wasn't too impressed! To be honest it gave me a hell of a fright! I simply wasn't expecting a dead raptor to be lying there with it's talons pointing at me.....
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Last Edit: Aug 31, 2017 7:37:47 GMT by village
"The White Van is strong with this one...."
Chris "Chesney" Allen 1976-2005 RIP
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andy-v
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Aug 31, 2017 10:37:36 GMT
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bookmarked, hoping one day i will have a garage
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Last Edit: Aug 31, 2017 12:28:24 GMT by andy-v
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Aug 31, 2017 12:09:47 GMT
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[/quote]Hiya! Funny you should mention stuffing the kestrel - Anna pre-empted me by saying "You're not stuffing that thing and bringing it in the house" despite me never having attempted taxidermy or shown any interest in it... she knows me well I might try and make something of the wings though... [/quote] Ha ha, I can imagine the (very one sided) discussion on that one! I know I would have had a similar response if I'd found that too. Maybe the skeleton could be collected and used in some way, the skull would be pretty cool talking point with that beak. Perhaps a bonnet mascot for the shovit? But I agree, the wings are crying out for some sort of flying contraption to be fashioned from them, it's only fair to the Kestrel's soul after all! Like the idea of adding some horizontal pieces to bridge to the tops of the concrete and wood. Should help to spread the load a little and would mean that the bolts into the concrete will not be in shear. Let me know if you need me to come over with my hot metal glue gun/welding rig for some angle iron fabrication.
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Aug 31, 2017 19:37:51 GMT
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[/quote]To be honest it gave me a hell of a fright! I simply wasn't expecting a dead raptor to be lying there with it's talons pointing at me..... [/quote] Lol!
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