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May 27, 2017 16:23:36 GMT
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I have given up setting budgets for most of my repairs. Things are ALWAYS worse than you first think, but then if we took any notice of the financial woes that befall those who restore cars then we'd all be driving Prius. ( except for me, I'd rather walk) If I actually thought about how much I've spent on cars (having owned well over 100 in 30+ years) I'd probably cry, but thats not the point. Its my hobby, hobbies cost money, and if it means that I can end up driving something which attracts attention, and stops people for a chat, then thats fine by me.
Sorry but Norfolk is a bit far from East London, But I'll be happy to give you support through here. Get stuck in, and enjoy it.
There used to be a good evening Course in North London, might be worth a go for the welding, although learning on a bench is totally different to lying underneath said ride and filling your ears with weld spatter.
Right, I'm going back to my Pint of Adnams Broadside.
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dazaaa
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May 27, 2017 17:36:20 GMT
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Oh and I'm East London too if you want me to look. I've done this before so can probably give you a realistic idea of what you might be in for. Time and money would be my initial guess. Brilliant, would really appreciate some advice. I'll shoot you a pm.
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dazaaa
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May 27, 2017 17:42:20 GMT
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For anyone curious as to what this pile of rust looks like
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dazaaa
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May 27, 2017 17:45:46 GMT
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Posting pics on here is such a headache from a phone.
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May 27, 2017 18:25:46 GMT
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Even the rustiest pile of junk is saveable with enough time & money thrown at it.
The question(s) you should probably be asking:- Is it economically prudent to save it? / Is it worth the time you're going to invest?
What would this car be worth if it was scruffy, solid, MOT'd & driving? What would it be worth in a nice state of restoration? How much would it cost to get it to sound state or a nice state?
Compare this to the cost of going out and buying one that's already sound or nice.
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May 27, 2017 19:10:42 GMT
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Wow... I'm actually lost for words!!
It will be awesome if you manage to get that back on the road, are your plans to leave it pretty much looking as is, or do you have something a little more bling in mind? (actually took me nearly ten minutes to come up with this while i was sitting here looking at your photo and letting it all sink in!)
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Dez
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May 27, 2017 19:25:02 GMT
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I'd do it just for the laughs, rolling round p1ssing my neighbours off in something that looks like it's from a ghetto version of a clash video.
But then I've got 15 years experience welding up such things every day, running my own business doing so. That and I'm an idiot who spends too much money on cars.
Tbh, in your situation you're going to struggle. Can you even afford the workshop space(£££ in your area I bet) and tooling to take it on, let alone the time? That's the sort of question you need to be asking yourself.
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sb
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May 27, 2017 19:58:08 GMT
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Clear coat and polish the chrome and that thing is ready! As said though, this is going to take you years, don't kid yourself about that fact. Also it will hoover up money if you're not careful.
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dazaaa
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May 27, 2017 20:19:39 GMT
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Time is no issue whatsoever, I have a secure place to keep it parked for as long as I need. Sure it might cost me a fair bit in the long run, but the skills I will learn in working on it will give me the confidence to tackle any future projects I might consider taking on.
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May 27, 2017 20:48:36 GMT
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Is that where it lives? Private underground carpark? Is that where you would be fixing it? Do you rent? A flat that includes parking space?
If the answers are yes, I can see alot of people being very unhappy at you going at that with a grinder and a welder, throwing sparks, dust and paint all over and making LOTS of noise for 100's of hours.
If I'm wrong about the cars location, ignore the above and have a go. Worst case situation is you give in. Will only be £500 down on a welder and supplies and car will not be worth any less.
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May 28, 2017 10:28:31 GMT
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^ I was going to ask about storage and where you are planning to do work, but VW has nailed it Priorities for me would be to blow they tyres up and see about getting the engine running (for mojo boost, so you can move it, and so you know if the engine is scrap) Good luck with it
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May 29, 2017 21:20:01 GMT
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I happen to be the kind of guy who jumps out of perfectly good airplanes and on the way out crack the book tittled: "How to Design and Build Parachutes". I also have the fiscal due diligence of a Government Agency, so money tends to get tossed at the challenge as required for parts or tools. And I drink Beer.
So, certainly, if you are so disposed, that car CAN be saved. It will consume your life for the next ten years and eat up enough money for a good down-payment on a house, but in the end, if you succeed, you will get a great sense of satisfaction having pulled it off. You will also have a boatload of skills and tools that you might not posses at the moment.
Tell us a bit about the work-space, time and tools that you have to work on this?
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jonomisfit
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May 29, 2017 21:46:18 GMT
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I find the best way to get into projects like this is just to start with wild abandon.
You eventually reach project critical mass, where you've put so much resource / effort into it emotionally you cant face backing out any more. It then gets you through it.
I'd go off and learn to weld first though if you cant already. Nothing worse than starting, teaching yourself to weld, getting part way through and realising the first 1/2 of what you've done is cack and needs re-done. Learning with instruction is much better than on your own / youtube videos.
Nothing there looks too bad to me, and if you can get panels from USA then it'll be a lot quicker than if you're trying to make your own. A lot quicker. But then again i guess it depends if your the sort of person who does a project to get to the bit they like (driving) or if your the sort of person that the project is the point of it (in which case making the panels could well be the best bit).
Good luck.
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May 29, 2017 22:11:29 GMT
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Have you had it running or driven it at all ?
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My first inclination would be to see if I could make it go and drive it around a bit. Have some fun with it before you get into the serious rust work. See if you actually like driving it. If you decide that it is not the car for you then sell it on. It has to be worth more as a runner than as it is now. You will certainly learn a lot if you carry on with this one.
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your original question seems to have been split into two answers. pretty much anything CAN be saved (as long as its not turned into a bucketful of brown sweepings on the floor). should it be saved? only one persons opinion matters here , yours! if you want to learn skills and do it , do it! if you want to earn a fortune out of it , best walk away. either way I love the ghetto look.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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May 30, 2017 11:57:19 GMT
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Is it on a chassis at that age? Is so you'll be amazed what rot isn't structural. Learn to weld, get the engine running and brakes working so you can drive round the car park then go from there. But hell yeah minimal work to the body!
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dazaaa
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May 30, 2017 19:06:43 GMT
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ok so, yes it's in a private car park and i wouldn't be able to do any serious work on it here, in a few months i'll be able to take her to a mates warehouse round the corner and have no restrictions with regards to welding ect.
No I haven't had it running, today I pulled the plugs out (they were so stuck it took a breaker bar to get some of them out) and got the engine turning over by hand. The entire wiring loom has been cut so i'm trying to figure out how to connect a battery and see if she runs.
From what I know of these eldo's, the chassis is separate to the body and I can say with much confidence that the chassis rails on this car are absolutely solid, in fact I was told the car was previously restored and was close to mint when parked up (pre vandals getting to it)
The lines from the brake master cylinder have been cut (i assume they were copper) and I had to cut the handbrake cable to get it rolling. Pretty sure thats all easily sorted.
I must say the graffiti is starting to grow on me
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Last Edit: May 30, 2017 19:07:54 GMT by dazaaa
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May 30, 2017 20:20:15 GMT
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Wait....you got that Kool paint job for FREE?!
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May 30, 2017 21:13:46 GMT
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This looks like its straight out of the film ' Class of 1999'.
I urge anyone to watch this shhitt 80s film , its hilarious .
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