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That looks fantastic. How many coats of base and top coat did you apply? So 4 coats of basecoat - first is a pretty light coat then 3 what I would call medium coats to obtain the coverage & depth - It makes a difference if you go too light with the coats or equally too heavy - the Lacquer is 2 coats first one a moderately medium coat and the second a reasonably heavy coat - when referring light / medium / heavy it is the density that I am referring to and can be altered in several ways i.e. gun settings, thick / thinness of paint / lacquer, air temperature / panel temperature & the speed at which you pass the gun over the panel whilst applying the paint - so a lot to consider / balance to get the right finish
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That...that is just bloody lovely
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jamesd1972
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Wow, you can really see the effect of all the skill and hard work. Thanks for the ongoing updates. James
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Jul 16, 2017 19:57:55 GMT
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Spent much of today flatting back then 3 stage polishing Its not a job you can rush - you just have to be methodical with it - but that is all of the body tub completed with the polish Bonnet is flatted And a start made on the polishing - the polished areas are just to stage 1 so may appear a little hazy / polish swirls I will complete polishing the bonnet in the morning prior to fitting it The other loose panels that have been painted also need to be flatted & polished tomorrow
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Jul 16, 2017 21:21:02 GMT
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I find when flatting that I often get micro scratches in the paint so need to re flat to get rid of them - not sure if they are from tiny bits of paint in the paper - how do you flat off to avoid this? I do use plenty of clean water when flatting.
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Jul 16, 2017 22:55:40 GMT
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amazing...love that color!...the finish is brilliant.....
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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I find when flatting that I often get micro scratches in the paint so need to re flat to get rid of them - not sure if they are from tiny bits of paint in the paper - how do you flat off to avoid this? I do use plenty of clean water when flatting. Firstly depends on how fine the grade is that you rubbing back with you can use 1500 followed by 2000 if you are careful and are confident that you have reasonable depth / thickness of paint - however 2000 is the norm for flatting / polishing - sometimes the paper may stick whilst flatting back and then sometimes you may hear a screech type sound has a corner / edge of the paper travels over the paint this often cuts a little deeper into the paint - trick here is use a little soap (just a plain bar of hand soap) to lubricate the paper - this will help prevent the paper from digging in - especially on paints / lacquers that are still curing Secondly - I would only ever use high quality polishes - personally I don't rate the Farecla range at all - I use the 3M range in this order after flatting - First stage: Fast Cut Plus (compound) Second stage: Extra Fine Compound (What it says on the bottle) Third stage: Ultrafina (finishing polish) - 3m do a colour coded 150mm polishing pad that matches the top colour of the polish - these are all Velcro backed hence quick change with a machine polisher which I use at the slowest speed setting - link to 3M polish range www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/bodyshop-solutions/how-to/compounding-polishing/ - At circa £30 + a bottle its not cheap plus if you are purchasing the pads (only sold in twos) and then the backing pad for the polisher you are heading for £200 of expenditure - however it will last you an age and give results that no other polish that I know of can. A couple of final tips and apologies if I am stating the obvious - Compounds contain polymer fillers after compounding I always wash these out before commencing my next stage - so after stages 1 & 2 - I use a household spray on (non aggressive) window cleaner and paper towel to wipe back off - I also wash the compounding / polishing pads out with warm water on a regular basis then spin them dry on the machine at high speed - finally before starting a polishing job I always cut my finger nails short so that they cannot dig into the paint / lacquer whilst undertaking the polishing process Hope this helps but let me know should you have any further questions - Chris
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drdick
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Firstly depends on how fine the grade is that you rubbing back with you can use 1500 followed by 2000 if you are careful and are confident that you have reasonable depth / thickness of paint - however 2000 is the norm for flatting / polishing - sometimes the paper may stick whilst flatting back and then sometimes you may hear a screech type sound has a corner / edge of the paper travels over the paint this often cuts a little deeper into the paint - trick here is use a little soap (just a plain bar of hand soap) to lubricate the paper - this will help prevent the paper from digging in - especially on paints / lacquers that are still curing Secondly - I would only ever use high quality polishes - personally I don't rate the Farecla range at all - I use the 3M range in this order after flatting - First stage: Fast Cut Plus (compound) Second stage: Extra Fine Compound (What it says on the bottle) Third stage: Ultrafina (finishing polish) - 3m do a colour coded 150mm polishing pad that matches the top colour of the polish - these are all Velcro backed hence quick change with a machine polisher which I use at the slowest speed setting - link to 3M polish range www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/bodyshop-solutions/how-to/compounding-polishing/ - At circa £30 + a bottle its not cheap plus if you are purchasing the pads (only sold in twos) and then the backing pad for the polisher you are heading for £200 of expenditure - however it will last you an age and give results that no other polish that I know of can. A couple of final tips and apologies if I am stating the obvious - Compounds contain polymer fillers after compounding I always wash these out before commencing my next stage - so after stages 1 & 2 - I use a household spray on (non aggressive) window cleaner and paper towel to wipe back off - I also wash the compounding / polishing pads out with warm water on a regular basis then spin them dry on the machine at high speed - finally before starting a polishing job I always cut my finger nails short so that they cannot dig into the paint / lacquer whilst undertaking the polishing process Hope this helps but let me know should you have any further questions - Chris Chris Thanks for sharing pro-tips with us amateurs! Car looks incredible. I'll risk painting a car myself one day... Richard
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Jul 17, 2017 12:56:00 GMT
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Thanks for the detailed answer Chris, very interesting info.
As I get a little more orange peel than you (and put more paint on) I tend to use either 1000/1200/1500/2000/2500 (as required depending on finish).
I think it could be the paper edge or maybe a bit of paint debris? as scratches are tiny but (on deep black paint) obvious to my level of perfection at least. Interesting tip on fingernails though! I did flat my flip front using a slow running hose over the panel as I sanded which reduced the scratch issue quite a lot.
I use Farecla G3/G10/ and then 3M finesse it finishing with 3M machine glaze (amazing stuff). Interesting about your views on the Farecla stuff as I thought that was good polish.
I do follow your usage with dedicated Farecla velcro waffle mops with plenty of rinsing/spin drying during/after use.
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Jul 17, 2017 20:46:45 GMT
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Last Edit: Jul 17, 2017 20:50:35 GMT by Deleted
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vulgalour
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Jul 17, 2017 23:01:13 GMT
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The variation of tones that paint produces is lovely, in some of those pictures it almost looks brown. I imagine it's even more impressive in person.
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Jul 17, 2017 23:24:09 GMT
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Paint looks absolutely lovely.
You are a man after my own heart, I painted every inside panel on my car light grey gloss, and the outside of the inside panels black! (OCD or what?? lol) You will know how much masking that took and also how long too.
I hate it when you see show finish cars but they don't bother painting the inside of the door panels etc (original 70 your old paint showing or primer) I just don't get it, if you are going to show finish paint then you do it everywhere, even if no-one can see it.
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Paint looks absolutely lovely. You are a man after my own heart, I painted every inside panel on my car light grey gloss, and the outside of the inside panels black! (OCD or what?? lol) You will know how much masking that took and also how long too. I hate it when you see show finish cars but they don't bother painting the inside of the door panels etc (original 70 your old paint showing or primer) I just don't get it, if you are going to show finish paint then you do it everywhere, even if no-one can see it. Thanks and I am glad I am not the only one that goes to this extent - you could say old habits die hard and over the last few years others have branded it has 'OCD' - I recently mentioned the term 'OCD' when talking about a paint finish to a very wise old sage at which point he responded 'My dear boy I have to correct you, that is not by any means OCD, It is but 'STS' - Obviously I pressed him in order to understand his coded abbreviation - to which he responded with a beaming smile 'Setting the Standards' - We laughed , shook hands and went made a couple of mugs of tea !!
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Jul 18, 2017 12:28:34 GMT
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I must suffer from STS as well then. Sorry to hijack your thread, but I am very proud of this photo.
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Jul 18, 2017 13:39:45 GMT
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I must suffer from STS as well then. Sorry to hijack your thread, but I am very proud of this photo. No hijack apology required - looks spot on to me
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glenanderson
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Jul 18, 2017 14:08:29 GMT
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That's a beautiful colour.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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vulgalour
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Jul 18, 2017 17:17:00 GMT
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Imagine if BPR and GN built a car together...
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Jul 18, 2017 19:32:07 GMT
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Imagine if BPR and GN built a car together... I think it would probably be a very fine one
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Jul 18, 2017 19:48:28 GMT
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Last Edit: Jul 18, 2017 19:51:49 GMT by Deleted
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Jul 18, 2017 19:50:47 GMT
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Shiny! nice rich colour.
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