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Mar 20, 2017 20:20:44 GMT
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I've recently started with "TIG" I'm getting on ok but some sort training wouldn't go a miss I did look into a course but nothing close to me and what I did find was to expensive for me
The way I looked at it was (how much gas and filler rods can I buy for the price of a day course) Because I could just buy the stuff and spend and good couple of days just practicing
But I'd still be interested in doing a training session
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froggy
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Mar 20, 2017 22:54:45 GMT
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It doesn't stack up as a business , 100 enquiries turns into a couple of bookings , pretty much anyone who buys a welder will watch YouTube or get a mate round to get Them started .
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fad
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It doesn't stack up as a business , 100 enquiries turns into a couple of bookings , pretty much anyone who buys a welder will watch YouTube or get a mate round to get Them started . Thats the crux of it. Its something people would be interested in but rarely go through with. I learned by trial and error, but being shown would have helped a LOT a d I would have happily paid for a short course. That was years ago and now I'm pretty happy with my welding by and large but its taken a while to go from "I can stick metal together therefore I can weld!" to "No... Wait... NOW I can weld." Getting folk to part with cash rather than watch youtube and get mates to show them will be the difficulty.
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Last Edit: Mar 21, 2017 8:05:26 GMT by fad
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gib
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Mar 21, 2017 10:19:10 GMT
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To come at this from another angle and please take this in the way its meant. You are Coded so no issue with your welding but can you teach? The old phrase “Those who can, do. Those who can’t teach” is not true . But it does take a very different mind set and set of skills to do each.
The Gent who taught me during my apprenticeship could set up any of the machines ( Stick , gas, Mig and Tig) and explain exactly what he was doing , how and why. But his previous drinking habits meant his hands were not that stable and the results of any of his welds looked like a bad dot to dot. But he stood on your shoulder and whispered “up / down rod” “ feed the pool” “watch your angles” and knew exactly how to pitch his training at all levels.
If the most inept numpty turns up and tells you he is a world class welder and then tries to weld 2 pieces of wood, do you know how to diffuse the situation so at the end of the time he has paid for he feels that the course was worth while?
I have trained people for many years in house and half of the time it is turning unrealistic expectation into realistic outcomes (and that is for people who are not footing any bills). The other half of the time is explaining for the 100th time the most basic part which 10 minutes before they told you they understood, whilst smiling and saying no I didn’t want my cup of tea you just put your finger in to see if it was hot ( true story).
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Mar 21, 2017 10:48:23 GMT
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Yeah my training and patience is good I have taught maybe 7 people to weld from nothing to a coded tig level. I also taught two chaps from Toyota team Europe.
Part of the reason for thinking of doing it is job satisfaction.
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Mar 21, 2017 15:34:30 GMT
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Where abouts are you based? I think a lot about welding is practice, but you need to have been shown the technique properly. Having been on intense training courses before, I feel a lot of the time, they are a waste of time. You get totally bombarded with information that by the end of the course you have forgotten. I would prefer a couple of shorter courses that you can go away and practice what you learnt and perfect that, before going onto the next bit.
I for one, would be up for a tig course 😊
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fad
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Mar 21, 2017 16:04:47 GMT
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"Welcome to the TIG course. The basic rules are, someone is "on". And then, everyone runs away from them, and they have to try and touch someone and shout "TIG!" and then the person they touched is on, and so the game continues... Let's make a start, shall we? I will be "on" first, and we'll see how we get on..."
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eternaloptimist
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Too many projects, not enough time or space...
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Mar 21, 2017 16:59:08 GMT
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I'd definitely be up for this.
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fpk
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Mar 22, 2017 10:13:24 GMT
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I would be up for 2 days intensive type course. I work long shifts and seldom get evenings off and every other weekend. So 2 days together works well for me.
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dikkehemaworst
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Mar 22, 2017 15:52:50 GMT
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I did a course in Holland years ago. Gave me confidence. The only thing that really Bumbd me out is I had to go home and get the same result with my curse word welder at home in the man shed. Maybe sell them a welder first and offer them to come over and teach them How to weld with there OWN tool.
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Mar 22, 2017 20:08:22 GMT
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Buy a van,go mobile. All very well showing someone to weld in a proper set up, but most people who need the guidence,( me included) have a cluttered garage,with a normal 240v supply,less than ideal lighting etc etc
So showing them how to get the best out of what they have,would be more beneficial and less disheartening to them than seeing what they could do in a fully sorted classroom.
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Mar 22, 2017 21:20:23 GMT
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Look at how popular the Leeds College courses are, they have been running for years , however they are just a sideline for when the main students are off, and always seem to have spaces and these guys have plenty of advertising. I did the paint course there , 1 week intensive, mainly because learning how to paint involved expensive materials , welding whilst you can b-gg-r up expensive panels generally a bit of mig wire and gas wont break the bank and you can sell the welder on, with paint once its sprayed there's no getting it back and mistakes become expensive quickly , unless your around the trade the learning opportunities are slim.
You may get enough to run courses say once every 6 months , but doubt you'd get more take up, if you factor in that most guys on here do the work as much for the love of cars as they do to save paying someone else to do it, not many will pay for tuition , so nice idea but doubt it will make your fortune
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retired with too many projects!
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Paul Y
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Mar 22, 2017 22:02:36 GMT
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Yup. I would be interested as I am self taught and curse word. P.
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Mar 22, 2017 22:47:43 GMT
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My local college runs courses in practical welding. They are 12 week courses one evening per week approx 40hrs tuition. Cost was £75 a couple of years ago. There was a NVQ module for those who reached the standard. MiG, TiG and MMA (arc/stick) processes were available.
TiG is available on Stainless, mild steel and ally (participants choose one process per course.
The courses are always booked in advance and participants ranged from real welders looking to upskill to interested DIYers.
The course instructor is a part time employee of college who has his own local engineering shop. Good experience
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Last Edit: Mar 22, 2017 22:48:30 GMT by guinnal
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