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Jul 25, 2019 16:14:25 GMT
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The pedals were still giving access issues so I removed the clevis pins and swung them up under the dash. Not so easy when I found the brake clevis pin rusted in solid in the pedal. It took lots of pressure with a clamp and oxy-acetylene to convince it to come out. That's better. Er, no. I still could not get full access with a 4 1/2" grinder. Off the Screwfix and came back with a 3" air cut off. I cut the outer column to my mark and turned up a nylon cover/support/dust seal to fit. The steering box has bearings top and bottom, this just tidy's it all up. The Hawk column will be used to create a new top section to the Corsa column.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Jul 25, 2019 16:19:24 GMT
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A couple of pics of the first test fit of the column. It looks like it intrudes a lot but it is actually tucked up under the dash quite nicely. To be continued after I cool down!
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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1960 Humber HawkDeleted
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Jul 25, 2019 19:28:20 GMT
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Great stuff, love the car.
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Colonelk
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1960 Humber HawkColonelk
@colonelk
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Jul 25, 2019 19:28:53 GMT
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Holy thread revival! I like the original and the plans, how are things coming? Sadly the last year and a half has been somewhat trying. My mum is 92 and my brother and I have been sorting her out. Still ongoing. Sorry to hear that chap, these things are never easy. Looks like you made some good progress today.
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Aug 17, 2019 19:28:24 GMT
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Oooooh! An update! I had some time out to insulate the conservatory roof (as you do). It's Mrs Crockpots craft room and was unbearable in the summer. It's a much nicer space now. Then we cleared off to a festival for four days. Anyhoo, back on it now. Where was I? I need to connect the column to the Hawk steering box shaft. After a bit of thought I made up a hybrid u/j from the Corsa intermediate shaft. I set one end up in my mill and machined the sides away down to the bearing cups. This allowed me to remove the last bit of staking and remove the bearing cups (which are hard but very thin and easy to damage). I drilled and tapped holes for retaining screws. I then assembled a u/j which had a 54 spline connection at one end and double D at the other. So now I have to make the Hawk shaft double D. It's a 19mm shaft so all it needs is flats 14mm across putting on it and it's done. Easy when you say it quickly! It ended up taking all afternoon working in the footwell to carefully grind and file accurate flats for the u/j to fit on. I also filled the centre of the shaft wit solid bar.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Aug 17, 2019 19:37:28 GMT
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I decided that mounting the power steering would involve splitting the functions of holding it up and controlling any torque reaction. Getting the "hold it up" bracket measured and made proved to be a right pain in the recspace. I had to make a couple of adjustments as I went along and offer no apologies for the left in hacks. It uses the original column mount, cut off and adapted. It looks a bit crude but it fits very nicely so I left it as is. The torque reaction is to be contained by an arm mounted on the other set of mounts on the motor. This will pick up a bracket on the beam that runs across the bulkhead. That's it for today. If I'm lucky tomorrow I'll get a final trial fit to establish how the top end will be done i.e. the steering stick.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Aug 21, 2019 18:02:23 GMT
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Had a good day today! The original Hawk outer column was cut down to the correct length. It is a close fit inside the Corsa outer column but needs packing about 1mm (I can't remember the exact amount). I found a piece of thick wall tube in the scrap box, cut a chunk off and made two spacer rings. These were fitted on the Hawk column using Loctite 638. No need for weld and I did not want the potential distortion. The inner shaft of the Corsa was cut to length and bored out to 21.5mm. The Hawk inner was cut off and turned to be an interference fit in this. Both parts were turned in my 4 jaw after clocking true, my 3 jaw is not accurate enough for this. Both parts were pressed together and pinned as well. The holes in the Corsa part were drilled and tapped M4 and grub screws used to lock it onto the stub shaft that comes out of the main body of the power steering unit. Final bit was to make a new top bush in ptfe as I am now utilising the bearing land of the Corsa which is bigger than the Hawk part. The reason for the lack of welding is so that should the unit fail I can strip my parts off and fit to another power steering unit without having to hack stuff up (technical term).
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Last Edit: Aug 21, 2019 18:09:07 GMT by crockpot: Added a bit
Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Aug 21, 2019 18:06:47 GMT
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So, lets put all that together! All looks good, time to install. After a struggle it went in (it's bloody heavy and I'm old!) and all looks ok so far. That's all the mechanical parts done, electrics next.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Aug 21, 2019 18:30:20 GMT
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I like the corsa column conversion, is it a rack and pinion or a steering box on the humber?
Also having smoked my original loom it's quite satisfying making a loom, just keep yourself topped up with tea!
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1966 Ford Cortina GT 2018 Ford Fiesta ST
Full time engineer, part time waffler on Youtube - see Jim_Builds
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Aug 21, 2019 18:43:39 GMT
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It's a steering box. I kept it because I'm at 8 points and I intend to stay that way!
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Aug 30, 2019 18:27:08 GMT
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I finally got a bit more done on this. My controller turned up from David at Mantasport so it was time to get wiring. So far I 've wired it in a semi-lashup style to test it all works. And it does! What a great mod this is, I can move the wheels with one finger when it's stationary. Previously this would induce a hernia and snap your elbows. No photos, sorry. It looks just the same but with coloured string.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Aug 30, 2019 21:45:00 GMT
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I love these old Humbers. Sounds like yours will be a hell of a lot more pleasant to drive than they ever were originally.
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C-rock
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May 15, 2020 22:22:30 GMT
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Picture that never appeared. Ooh yours has a diffrent dash to mine is yours a series 2 ?
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It's a 1960 series 1a.. the dash is not in great condition, the veneer is cracked all over.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Very nice, thanks for the diy photo guide - had heard about corsa power steering but not seen it in detail.
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75swb
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1960 Humber Hawk75swb
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May 16, 2020 21:19:51 GMT
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Very nice, thanks for the diy photo guide - had heard about corsa power steering but not seen it in detail. I'll echo this. I've been thinking about similar for the lada but hadn't fully understood how it worked, seeing it laid out so simply makes more sense. Looks like a great mod well execute. I have the added complication of not being allowed to weld anything in the steering column over here, so probably some custom milled parts req'd, and then having to pay several hundred $ to get the mod certified. And then you're up to half the value of the car to get power steering, and you reassess the importance...
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May 28, 2020 13:30:17 GMT
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I have a Chrysler 318 and Torqueflite (bought from Justanotherhigh) to go into this old bus. But first a rebuild. The Torqueflite has been stripped and rebuild kit and shift kit purchased. Due to a touch of ham fistedness I managed to damage the forward clutch piston. Could not find a second hand one and new seem to be unicorn droppings. Found a billet of ally in the back of my scrap box though. Sorted!
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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ovimor
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...It'll be ME!
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May 28, 2020 15:02:52 GMT
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Been watching a few 'teardown' techs... "Don't put yrr balls in wrangg" .... "It'll bite yerr!" .... bloody hell, circlip heaven :/ Keep it up, m8 OVIMOR
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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Sept 9, 2021 15:31:50 GMT
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It's been a while . The Humber has been nowhere but I've been making steady progress on the Chrysler 318. It's now all together with Keith Black high comp pistons, Comp Cams 268 cam, ported heads, double row true roller timing chain and careful assembly. The eagle eyed will notice it has a trigger wheel and sensor bracket on it. I made these up with future plans in mind. The gearbox is fitted and has had a full rebuild/upgrade with performance clutches and bands and an upgraded valve body. Torque converter is a high stall (2200 rpm-ish) The box had the wrong throttle valve lever and no linkage to suit any way, also no dipstick. I sourced a dipstick from John Woolfe and made a cable system for the throttle valve, basically a copy of a Lokar one but for less than a tenner. I started on the Rover removal a couple of days ago. Its a scruffy old thing but always ran really well. It also leaked oil onto the exhaust, one of the reasons I stopped driving it.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Sept 9, 2021 15:38:11 GMT
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Today it was out but with a fight. The installation was such that it was not easy to extract. This left a large engine bay ready for V8 goodness after a clean and tidy. Some of the parts were "interesting". This is the gearbox cross member from the GWR school of engineering. It's as heavy as it looks. I'm having a quiet rest of the day as I'm cream crackered. Tomorrow is market day in the local town so it's bus pass, buy fruit and veg, bread and cheese then up to the real ale pub (hence the bus pass). Then wifey is back on Saturday and I'm on station pick up duties.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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