dubwarrior2
Part of things
"Open up, its the filth"
Posts: 576
|
|
Feb 20, 2017 20:21:19 GMT
|
Right my plan for a long time now has been to build myself a decent van for the summer gor fishing/ kayaking etc. At the moment I really fancy doing an LDv Maxus. Yes I know there not the best vans in the world but they are cheap, bigger than a Vw, and cheap. Ive seen a few with duff engines for sale and been toying with what might make a good swap. I reckon the 4x4 straight axles and suspension from a Land Rover DIscovery could be fitted relatively easily. The engine and box would require a lot of bulkhead and floor modifications but could be done. My question is, at normal ride height(not lifted or lowered) what angles do Land tRover propshafts sit at in relation to horizontal? I want to end up with something like this-
|
|
|
|
|
dazcapri
North East
Enter your message here...
Posts: 1,056
|
|
Feb 20, 2017 20:50:23 GMT
|
I can't answer any of your questions but if you do build it I'll definitely be following the thread sounds ace
|
|
Mk3 Capri LS
|
|
alecf
Part of things
Posts: 424
|
|
Feb 20, 2017 22:30:02 GMT
|
Propshafts would be the least of my worries. Most prop manufacturers can make wide angle propshafts. On a standard car they aren't massively angled at all.but on most offroad motors it's not uncommon to go wide angle. The maxus is cheap to buy because parts are near enough impossible to source and what can be brought is mega money. I'd stick to main stream. By time you have brought a maxus then all the money on bits to fix it plus the 4x4 conversion it would be cheaper to start with a 4x4 transit and go from there.
The ideas great but I don't think it's the answer using these 2 vehicles.
|
|
|
|
MonzaPhil
Posted a lot
Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought
Posts: 2,456
|
|
Feb 20, 2017 23:01:45 GMT
|
If I remember I'll do a measure and a picture tomorrow.
Personally I'd go for a Land Rover chassis and running gear then just re-body. You'll likely have clearance issues over the engine and the gear selectors and steering will be a challenge. Not sure about the weight difference between a van and a 4x4 ....
Aside from that, I'd be interested to see what you come up with. I have 2 naked Discoverys if you need pics or measurements.
Sent from my GT-I9195 using proboards
|
|
This is now a clicky linky!
|
|
dubwarrior2
Part of things
"Open up, its the filth"
Posts: 576
|
|
|
Propshafts would be the least of my worries. Most prop manufacturers can make wide angle propshafts. On a standard car they aren't massively angled at all.but on most offroad motors it's not uncommon to go wide angle. The maxus is cheap to buy because parts are near enough impossible to source and what can be brought is mega money. I'd stick to main stream. By time you have brought a maxus then all the money on bits to fix it plus the 4x4 conversion it would be cheaper to start with a 4x4 transit and go from there. The ideas great but I don't think it's the answer using these 2 vehicles. Thanks. I know they're fairly difficult to get parts for, although theres always loads being broken in ebay. I'm just looking at building something for a bit of fun. Its gonna be a project to build and I know it wont be easy, but it wouldnt be fun if it was easy. I reckon it would cost me 4 times as much to find a transit that wasnt a rotten piece of curse word. Its all hyperthetical at the moment but thats the problem. Too much thinking about things tends to stop me actually doing them. Need to be more like the ZR/Subaru project in readers rides and just get on with it.
|
|
|
|
dubwarrior2
Part of things
"Open up, its the filth"
Posts: 576
|
|
|
If I remember I'll do a measure and a picture tomorrow. Personally I'd go for a Land Rover chassis and running gear then just re-body. You'll likely have clearance issues over the engine and the gear selectors and steering will be a challenge. Not sure about the weight difference between a van and a 4x4 .... Aside from that, I'd be interested to see what you come up with. I have 2 naked Discoverys if you need pics or measurements. Sent from my GT-I9195 using proboards Thanks. Just confirm are all discos on coil springs on the rear. Makes no odds. Still need some fabrication either way
|
|
|
|
MonzaPhil
Posted a lot
Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought
Posts: 2,456
|
|
|
All Disco 1s are coil sprung, Disco 2s had air on 7 seater or as an option on 5 seater. Easy to convert though.
A tdi is an easy thing to use for conversions, a TD5 would be a pain. Auto would make relocation the shifter nice and easy.
LDV400 or equivalent and a 300 tdi auto.
Not sure what the wheelbase is on the LDV but if you need more than 100 inches then you're in to expensive Defender territory. Maybe an L200 would have the length you need. Woof.
Or as you say, axles and transfer box etc.
Sent from my floor using proboards
|
|
This is now a clicky linky!
|
|
dubwarrior2
Part of things
"Open up, its the filth"
Posts: 576
|
|
Feb 21, 2017 10:31:58 GMT
|
From google the wheel base is 122 inches. Thats with the front wheels sat centrally in the arches. I would probably move them forwards slightly.
|
|
|
|
MonzaPhil
Posted a lot
Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought
Posts: 2,456
|
|
Feb 21, 2017 12:13:35 GMT
|
That's an inconvenient length (that's what she said....)
It's not easy getting a picture of the angle and now I have dirty knees. The props sit not too far away from horizontal but there's a chassis in the way of any picture.
Oh. Just thought of something.
|
|
This is now a clicky linky!
|
|
dubwarrior2
Part of things
"Open up, its the filth"
Posts: 576
|
|
Feb 21, 2017 13:23:28 GMT
|
Thanks for you efforts.
|
|
|
|
|
Rich
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 6,248
Club RR Member Number: 160
|
|
Feb 21, 2017 13:30:46 GMT
|
This gives you a visual idea, RRC and Disco 1 chassis are nearly identical. Both are 100" W/B
|
|
|
|
93fxdl
Posted a lot
Enter your message here...
Posts: 2,000
|
|
Feb 21, 2017 15:40:26 GMT
|
You could always take the easy option and get a Mitsubishi delicia or how about looking at American vans? They seem to share a lot of parts between them and the 4x4s, an episode of fast and loud did a conversion. Possibly try searching for expedition vans. Ttfn Glenn
|
|
|
|
Mantasport
Part of things
Posts: 704
Member is Online
|
|
Feb 22, 2017 10:17:20 GMT
|
I know i shouldn't say this when the project sounds like a whole lot of win. But they do make 4x4 vans in transit, sprinter and vw flavours already. Rather than a long winded build and hunt for parts maybe have a look for one of them and get out there and use it.
Or failing that find a rotten 4x4 van (thinking transit smiley) and use the running gear/engine from that and drop amaxus body on it. Lot less hassle than extending the disco running gear and making room for the suspension towers etc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 22, 2017 13:20:13 GMT
|
The other thing to think about is how are you going to keep it legal, changing all the running gear into a ldv will get you into IVA etc, use the complete chassis & running gear off something else and you should avoid this, a 120 inch defender would be ideal but they can be expensive, though you might be ale to find a ropey one.
|
|
|
|
Rich
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 6,248
Club RR Member Number: 160
|
|
Feb 22, 2017 13:42:33 GMT
|
The other thing to think about is how are you going to keep it legal, changing all the running gear into a ldv will get you into IVA etc, use the complete chassis & running gear off something else and you should avoid this, a 120 inch defender would be ideal but they can be expensive, though you might be ale to find a ropey one. Should be no issue seeing as an LDV Maxxus is already compliant with the BIVA rules.. Would walk through the test in that respect.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Feb 22, 2017 19:33:14 GMT
|
The other thing to think about is how are you going to keep it legal, changing all the running gear into a ldv will get you into IVA etc, use the complete chassis & running gear off something else and you should avoid this, a 120 inch defender would be ideal but they can be expensive, though you might be ale to find a ropey one. Should be no issue seeing as an LDV Maxxus is already compliant with the BIVA rules.. Would walk through the test in that respect. might not be too difficult to pass the test from the but it would still be a lot of cost and hastle, (Lighting and field of vision could also be an issue with a body lift, for instance on a project I worked on wheel spats drove the need for side an roof marker lights to be added!)
|
|
|
|
dubwarrior2
Part of things
"Open up, its the filth"
Posts: 576
|
|
|
Thanks for all the replies. I know that VW ford and Mercedez all make 4x4s but they all have one of two issues. Very expensive or completely rotten Anything with a Vw badge on it nowadays is stupid money. Also, everybody seems to have VWs nowadays. They will always be my first love but I want something different. I genuinely like the shape and size of the SWB LDV Maxus but, from what I have read, the engines are rubbish. Apparently they are italian boat engines. I just want a project I can build fairly cheaply for a bit of fun. Not going to be a daily driver (unless it turns out to be awesome). I'm not looking to jack it up stupidly high either. Most vans have a decent ground clearance as standard. Seen a few other options aswell (mercedes sprinter drivetrain, complete transit running gear etc) I could just buy a transit or something else but I just fancy doing something different. Still in the planning stages.
|
|
|
|
fad
Posted a lot
Posts: 1,781
|
|
|
Unimog.
|
|
|
|
dubwarrior2
Part of things
"Open up, its the filth"
Posts: 576
|
|
Feb 23, 2017 17:49:03 GMT
|
Id love a unimog but would need to rob a bank to get one
|
|
|
|
fad
Posted a lot
Posts: 1,781
|
|
Feb 23, 2017 18:50:17 GMT
|
Id love a unimog but would need to rob a bank to get one Why rob a bank? Just go and rob a Unimog owner, duh! LOL
|
|
|
|
|