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A small and irrelevant aside, watching Bangers and Cash this week on UK channel Yesterday, a P5 went through the auction in the same colour scheme as yours. The registration number had VDV on it and thought it might be you. Until I remembered your are in Holland 🙄
Amused me, thought it might amuse you 🤷🏼♂️
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As a fellow Dutchman I can only say: stunning and thorough work. This attention to quality is what makes these cars survive in our climate. Thanks! |
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A small and irrelevant aside, watching Bangers and Cash this week on UK channel Yesterday, a P5 went through the auction in the same colour scheme as yours. The registration number had VDV on it and thought it might be you. Until I remembered your are in Holland 🙄 Amused me, thought it might amuse you 🤷🏼♂️ It amuses me.. I bought this Rover at an auction in the UK but that was 6 years ago! Did some more work on the Rover, This car is very consistant, if there is rust on one side, there is also rust on the other side. Went over to the RH wing. This showed also some rust on the same spot and i could see that the bracket had a hole  Removed the bracket by drilling out all the spot welds and after some poking, found some holes in the wing and some poor spot on the bracket  First made a repair piece for the edge and welded that in and cut out a larger piece then expected as that was heavily pitted so would not weld well  Then made a repair piece for the side piece and welded that in and dressed back the welds  After that, the rusted lower parts of both brackets were cut out and replaced by fresh metal  More next time Peter |
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You are very good Peter, like me is there anything you cannot do?
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You are very good Peter, like me is there anything you cannot do? Modesty?? 😉 |
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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You are very good Peter, like me is there anything you cannot do? cheers Marc. In general i try to do everything myself as the joy of a finished job is much greater when you did it yourself and managed to achieve a good result then splashing out cash to get it done by a pro and either confronted with a huge bill or an average result. I am blessed with a lot of patience and like a new challenge and the "monkey see, monkey do" also seems to suit me. Love to visit Youtube or forums to learn new skills . In the recent years i have sourced out the overhaul of the 4ZF automatic gearbox and the painting of my MGB and Rover and some chroming work. The rest i did myself. The downside is that projects tend to take a lot of time (which i believe you will confirm when looking at the build time of your stunning car). I do not have lots of specialist tools to make the job quicker and learning also takes a lot of time so doing everything yourself leads to projects that take approx 10 years to finish. But the feeling is so much better when you went threw blood sweat and tears. To give you an idea, I believe i spend 4000 hours on my MGB V8 conversion and between 6 and 7000 hours on my project Rover P5B but did not regret it.
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You are very good Peter, like me is there anything you cannot do? Modesty?? 😉  There are a few things I choose not to try (automatic gearboxes for one), but I'm fairly happy to try any job and like Peter, I have a lot of patience so it's always fun to try everything. |
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There are a few things I choose not to try (automatic gearboxes for one), but I'm fairly happy to try any job and like Peter, I have a lot of patience so it's always fun to try everything. And both with a similar eye for detail too. |
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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You are very good Peter, like me is there anything you cannot do? cheers Marc. In general i try to do everything myself as the joy of a finished job is much greater when you did it yourself and managed to achieve a good result then splashing out cash to get it done by a pro and either confronted with a huge bill or an average result. I am blessed with a lot of patience and like a new challenge and the "monkey see, monkey do" also seems to suit me. Love to visit Youtube or forums to learn new skills . In the recent years i have sourced out the overhaul of the 4ZF automatic gearbox and the painting of my MGB and Rover and some chroming work. The rest i did myself. The downside is that projects tend to take a lot of time (which i believe you will confirm when looking at the build time of your stunning car). I do not have lots of specialist tools to make the job quicker and learning also takes a lot of time so doing everything yourself leads to projects that take approx 10 years to finish. But the feeling is so much better when you went threw blood sweat and tears. To give you an idea, I believe i spend 4000 hours on my MGB V8 conversion and between 6 and 7000 hours on my project Rover P5B but did not regret it.
Peter
Peter - Its interesting to the amount of hours expended in your restorations - I would not doubt the figure for one second - top end complex professional restorations tend come in at the 2,500 - 4,000 hours mark but they have access to lots of expensive equipment that can greatly reduce the hours expended - the rolling restoration on the Javelin that I completed recently came in 835 hours and that excludes things like the engine & gearbox rebuilds - restorations can be hugely rewarding in so many ways but there is no reward for rushing has this only leads to further problems |
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I had a bit of a work out a while back for the insurance on the pop and I think it came in around 10,000 hours. Of course that does account for doing a lot of it 3 times over, lol.
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I estimated I spent 2000 hours over 8 years just on a Morris minor (without an engine or gearbox re-build), what I did notice is that everything you modify or improve takes perhaps massively longer than keeping it standard. Fit a standard master cylinder perhaps 20 minutes as part of the build, convert it to dual circuit probably 30 hours of internet research fabricating and tweaking.
That said after less than 1000 miles all the new standard suspension bushes are cracking already so even that's going to take another few hours to sort out.
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Jun 14, 2020 19:08:05 GMT
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Peter - Its interesting to the amount of hours expended in your restorations - I would not doubt the figure for one second - top end complex professional restorations tend come in at the 2,500 - 4,000 hours mark but they have access to lots of expensive equipment that can greatly reduce the hours expended - the rolling restoration on the Javelin that I completed recently came in 835 hours and that excludes things like the engine & gearbox rebuilds - restorations can be hugely rewarding in so many ways but there is no reward for rushing has this only leads to further problems Chris, i fully agree with you. Its good to see that projects keep coming your way as it really is time consuming and therefore expensive to restore cars to the high standards you have. I quess what helps you is the low overhead costs so no fancy building which soaks a lot of money every month and a relatively cheap quality control department (Sid). I already noticed that you have a lot of experience and therefore work is done a lot quicker |
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Jun 14, 2020 19:13:34 GMT
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I had a bit of a work out a while back for the insurance on the pop and I think it came in around 10,000 hours. Of course that does account for doing a lot of it 3 times over, lol. To make mods like you did or actually designing and building a new car according the DVLA rules is very time consuming and if you did it in 10.000 hours, you were very quick and yes, lots of thing need to be done 2 or 3 times if you want to achieve your high standard of build quality. |
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Jun 14, 2020 19:47:20 GMT
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I estimated I spent 2000 hours over 8 years just on a Morris minor (without an engine or gearbox re-build), what I did notice is that everything you modify or improve takes perhaps massively longer than keeping it standard. Fit a standard master cylinder perhaps 20 minutes as part of the build, convert it to dual circuit probably 30 hours of internet research fabricating and tweaking. That said after less than 1000 miles all the new standard suspension bushes are cracking already so even that's going to take another few hours to sort out. Modifications take time. I fitted a 4ZF HP22 gearbox to replace the BW35 on my Rover. It is a pretty straight forward conversion bit it took me more then 40 hours to figure out how to replace the rods for the shifter by a cable and use the original gear selector. It always are the relatively small things that take a lot of time. I noticed you get a lot of things done on your cars rather quickly.
Made some progress on the Rover. There was some rust on top of the RH wing and it turned into a hole after some poking
Luckily it was a small area so was able to weld it up. After removing the underseal from the inside of the wing, it was obvious what caused the hole. The upper side is difficult to paint so it hardly got any paint or underseal and then rust can be expected.
The brackets were brought back to bare metal
The wings got the same treatment, leaving some paint on one for get the color made
found some rust on various places underneath the paint so gave the in- and outside a coat of Hydrate80
On one of the wings, one of the nuts was missing so i welded a nut to a piece of sheet metal which was welded onto the wing
After keying the Hydrate80, i applied some 2K epoxy primer with a brush to the rear of the bracket and onto the wing where the bracket is fitted and behind the flange which is not easy to reach with a spray gun
Tacked the brackets on the wings using the spot weld drill marks as a reference
After trial fitting it on the car, it was altered a bit and fully welded and dressed back
Before fitting the bracket, i cutted out a corner piece of the bracket to let water and dirt get out so no more rust trap
So the welding is finished now. Took a lot of time to eliminate an area of 15 square centimeter rusted metal. Although i have a set of shot blasted and epoxy primed spare rear wings, these wings were to good to be replaced.
Thats it for now Peter
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Jun 14, 2020 20:10:25 GMT
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Nice work as usual Peter.
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Jun 14, 2020 20:11:12 GMT
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I had a bit of a work out a while back for the insurance on the pop and I think it came in around 10,000 hours. Of course that does account for doing a lot of it 3 times over, lol. To make mods like you did or actually designing and building a new car according the DVLA rules is very time consuming and if you did it in 10.000 hours, you were very quick and yes, lots of thing need to be done 2 or 3 times if you want to achieve your high standard of build quality. Peter, I really was not quick!!! 25 years from Start to finish!! |
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Jun 25, 2020 21:34:48 GMT
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To make mods like you did or actually designing and building a new car according the DVLA rules is very time consuming and if you did it in 10.000 hours, you were very quick and yes, lots of thing need to be done 2 or 3 times if you want to achieve your high standard of build quality. Peter, I really was not quick!!! 25 years from Start to finish!! Well it still is 400 hours per year and if you have 40 available weeks in a year, it is 10 hours per week which is a considerable workload besides like you running a business and have a wife, do jobs on the house ect Did some work on the Rover. The first thing was to clean up the garage and make room for the Rover inside the workshop  removed the primer from both D posts and splashed some filler on it and sanded it smooth   After that i fitted a rear wing and splashed some filler on it  Also did some maintenance work on my Ducati 860. Cleaned up the carbs, added some battery water to the battery and tried to start it but it did no run. After checking the ignition, there was no spark. During the restoration, i fitted an aftermarket electronic ignition. I brought the ignition module to a friend who is an electronical wizzard. He found out that a capacitor and a diode were dead which he replaced and the test mode shows it works now. Found out the ignition lock does not always work so i will try to open it and see if i can repair it  These Ducati bevel engines look so good but are complicated and a bit fragile Thats it for now Peter |
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Jul 12, 2020 17:28:46 GMT
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Removed the ignition lock from the Ducati  Opened it and it was pretty obvious that it did not work well  These ignition lock are scarce as hen teeth and if you find one, these are very expensive. Found a copper bolt and grinded the remains away with a Dremel, drilled a hole and tapped some thread in it  Then fitted the bolt  and grinded the bolt level with the surface  Fitted it to the bike and it work ake again. ur Next job was to investigate why the battery was not charged. After measuring with the multimeter, i found out thst the isolation of the alternator coil was not oke. The alternator of the Ducati is inside the engine in the engine oil and has a magnitic rotor and a copper wired stator  New ones can be purchased but cost Euro 450,- so i did some Googling and looked on You tube and decided to rewind it myself. There are lot of videos on Youtube from India and South America where this is still common practice. Mine is a single phase so not to difficult to rewind. Found a compagny in the UK that supplies the copper wire, insulation pieces and varnish and have asked them if their parts can handle the hot engine oil and am waiting for an answer. It looks like all the parts cost less then Euro 30,- so definetely worth a try |
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