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Jan 26, 2017 14:29:01 GMT
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Last Edit: Jan 26, 2017 14:35:08 GMT by joem83
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Jan 26, 2017 15:23:22 GMT
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Dash from a proper Pikes Peak car ?
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Jan 26, 2017 17:07:11 GMT
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I often wondered If I could get a CAD softare package on my laptop so I could post designs off to engineering firms ?? Are all the diferent CAD programs compatible???
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sb
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Jan 26, 2017 17:34:29 GMT
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I often wondered If I could get a CAD softare package on my laptop so I could post designs off to engineering firms ?? Are all the diferent CAD programs compatible??? Not answering the question but autodesk give fusion away for free, there are also student versions of inventor available for free so long as you never plan on profiting from your designs.
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Jan 26, 2017 18:13:56 GMT
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Thanks sb. Only ever for my greesy little project.....
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mylittletony
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Are all the diferent CAD programs compatible??? Not really compatible as such, but most of the big name ones will be able to output files in commonly accepted formats - also used for CNC machining and 3D printing, such as IGES, STL or STP. One of my colleagues uses this at home (we use SolidEdge at work, unfortunately) www.freecadweb.org/
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I have just yesterday downloaded freecad and Hannah and I are currently working our way through the tutorials on you tube to learn it. I was given a copy of solid edge but it doesnt seem to be as easy to use for beginners. I tried but it seems a bit messy? Maybe just too much for what I want. So freecad looks good so far.
Ive a friend who uses freecad to produce drawings of bike parts he needs for his alloy frame building. He pings the drawings/files off to China and a couple of weeks later he gets back neatly machined blocks of engineering beauty for not a lot of monies :-)
I want some of that!
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Jan 27, 2017 19:21:08 GMT
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Ive been thinking of building an rs200 for years, will be watching this with interest, good luck with the build and keep the updates coming
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badrep
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IVA advice needed!
Right - despite the kit not needing IVA, I'm doing extensive modification to the, well, everything. The only Points on the IVA radically modified vehicle I have left is the steering is the same, Chassis is being notched, engine, gearbox, driveshafts and suspension is being modified from OEM which only leaves me with steering as OEM.... 2 points ain't gonna stick it sadly!
Am I right in thinking that the whole car has been through this test already, so effectively I only have to make sure that I keep an eye on the actual work I'm doing? Of course there is a lot more to the test, but, my question is... has most of it already been done for me?
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Founder of 3DPRINTUK and lowerer of Volvos I have an interest in driving fast, but no interest in driving dangerously. 1972 Volvo 1800ES bagged 2007 Volvo V70 T5 330 bhp sleeper - The Lolvo - Sold.... 2005 Mercedes CLS55 AMG 500bhp supercharged V8 1984 Ford RS200 Replica in the making - Project BadRep My wife thinks I'm building a Transformer
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sb
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No... The chassis notch alone is IVA. Every inch of the car must be IVA compliant to 2016 standards, so its totally possible a lot of items on the car that passed when it was manufactured wont pass now.
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Question is though, how would anyone know? I'm guessing that loads of this type of kit get built, and put on the road every year without going anywhere near a BIVA.
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badrep
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No... The chassis notch alone is IVA. Every inch of the car must be IVA compliant to 2016 standards, so its totally possible a lot of items on the car that passed when it was manufactured wont pass now. I realised that I definitely need to have an IVA, but yeah, that's a really good point on the update of standards. I've ordered a copy of the 2016 regs to be printed off so I can have a full study! Question is though, how would anyone know? I'm guessing that loads of this type of kit get built, and put on the road every year without going anywhere near a BIVA. Not actually that many as far as I know. I went to meet them man who made the first kit yesterday - it didn't sound like loads were made, however there there are a good handful. He's a top bloke too! I'm not really wanting to risk getting in trouble that much. Personally I think that it's be a prime target for an inspection and it's unlikely that it'll be an easy thing to hide!
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Founder of 3DPRINTUK and lowerer of Volvos I have an interest in driving fast, but no interest in driving dangerously. 1972 Volvo 1800ES bagged 2007 Volvo V70 T5 330 bhp sleeper - The Lolvo - Sold.... 2005 Mercedes CLS55 AMG 500bhp supercharged V8 1984 Ford RS200 Replica in the making - Project BadRep My wife thinks I'm building a Transformer
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Darkspeed
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I think pistonpopper was alluding more to the generality of body panel kits rather than the specific RS200 kit. This is a whole can of worms and likely to have the thread degenerate into whole mess of heresay and speculation. As badrep has realised, a change as dramatic as he is undertaking should require a basic IVA as it's not just an outer panel swap, like a Bertoni or an MX250. The suspension area is a bit of a grey area. I interpret this as type of suspension rather than the OEM components, so a change to leafs to coilovers for instance as load paths into the chassis are changed from the original design, or pickup points are altered requiring different load paths from the original. Steering box to rack to pinion etc. Air ride ?!? If the pickup points do not change. But I would fit after IVA as certain heights and clearances could be checked at the cars lowest ride height. If going IVA an age related should be possible. The Q may be more beneficial for emissions possibly avoiding a requirement for a CAT. If the original interior was to be used, that would have made IVA easier, a tester would have a hard time failing a modern standard type approved production interior. A bespoke minimal interior will just need some thought. In the end an IVA tested and approved car will have a better resale value and easier to sell. Worth a bit of extra expense and effort IMHO. IVA is not perfect by any means, but it does ensure that the builder maintains an acceptable standard of construction. Having seen what can be put through IVA and passed. I dread to think of the standard of cars that would be allowed on the road if just an MOT was needed. Even if for you own peace of mind - we can all make errors - an IVA makes sense to get your work given a thorough going over, let's face it, it will not be slow and although going out in a blaze of glory looks good on film......
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stealthstylz
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Had a quick flick through what you're planning - easiest way to IVA would be to do the engine swap/chassis notch etc but leave the interior completely stock MR2. Do the test then rip it all out and do the cage etc.
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badrep
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Had a quick flick through what you're planning - easiest way to IVA would be to do the engine swap/chassis notch etc but leave the interior completely stock MR2. Do the test then rip it all out and do the cage etc. Doh
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Founder of 3DPRINTUK and lowerer of Volvos I have an interest in driving fast, but no interest in driving dangerously. 1972 Volvo 1800ES bagged 2007 Volvo V70 T5 330 bhp sleeper - The Lolvo - Sold.... 2005 Mercedes CLS55 AMG 500bhp supercharged V8 1984 Ford RS200 Replica in the making - Project BadRep My wife thinks I'm building a Transformer
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badrep
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I think pistonpopper was alluding more to the generality of body panel kits rather than the specific RS200 kit. This is a whole can of worms and likely to have the thread degenerate into whole mess of heresay and speculation. As badrep has realised, a change as dramatic as he is undertaking should require a basic IVA as it's not just an outer panel swap, like a Bertoni or an MX250. The suspension area is a bit of a grey area. I interpret this as type of suspension rather than the OEM components, so a change to leafs to coilovers for instance as load paths into the chassis are changed from the original design, or pickup points are altered requiring different load paths from the original. Steering box to rack to pinion etc. Air ride ?!? If the pickup points do not change. But I would fit after IVA as certain heights and clearances could be checked at the cars lowest ride height. If going IVA an age related should be possible. The Q may be more beneficial for emissions possibly avoiding a requirement for a CAT. If the original interior was to be used, that would have made IVA easier, a tester would have a hard time failing a modern standard type approved production interior. A bespoke minimal interior will just need some thought. In the end an IVA tested and approved car will have a better resale value and easier to sell. Worth a bit of extra expense and effort IMHO. IVA is not perfect by any means, but it does ensure that the builder maintains an acceptable standard of construction. Having seen what can be put through IVA and passed. I dread to think of the standard of cars that would be allowed on the road if just an MOT was needed. Even if for you own peace of mind - we can all make errors - an IVA makes sense to get your work given a thorough going over, let's face it, it will not be slow and although going out in a blaze of glory looks good on film...... I like the idea of a Decat Q plate! Thanks for the solid advice - I'm pretty confident on the IVA - I've read up a lot on it over the last few days especially. I've also got the full 308 page test printed and bound so will have some serious bed time reading to do. A lot of it could actually put me to sleep which is a bonus! Stupidly (see last post) I've sold almost all the interior for pretty much pennies do am a little stuck with the route I've taken. But as you say, I'm much happier actually having someone look over and make sure all my work is up to scratch before I take it on the road. It'll cost more and it'll take longer, but doing it right is more important than doing it to get it on the road and risk other peoples safety. I'm not selling the brakes, wheels, or suspension until it has an IVA, then will tackle that after. There is too much risk of going off piste when it comes to wide wheels and potential for rubbing. I'm actually looking forward to this now!
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Founder of 3DPRINTUK and lowerer of Volvos I have an interest in driving fast, but no interest in driving dangerously. 1972 Volvo 1800ES bagged 2007 Volvo V70 T5 330 bhp sleeper - The Lolvo - Sold.... 2005 Mercedes CLS55 AMG 500bhp supercharged V8 1984 Ford RS200 Replica in the making - Project BadRep My wife thinks I'm building a Transformer
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froggy
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If your going down that route you might want to clarify how dvsa will treat a modified mr2 as I'd want it described as an mrs200 if I was paying for it
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badrep
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If your going down that route you might want to clarify how dvsa will treat a modified mr2 as I'd want it described as an mrs200 if I was paying for it Do you think I could get Ford RS200 Replica? or just Replica RS200 (I guess I might not be able to use the word 'Ford')
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Founder of 3DPRINTUK and lowerer of Volvos I have an interest in driving fast, but no interest in driving dangerously. 1972 Volvo 1800ES bagged 2007 Volvo V70 T5 330 bhp sleeper - The Lolvo - Sold.... 2005 Mercedes CLS55 AMG 500bhp supercharged V8 1984 Ford RS200 Replica in the making - Project BadRep My wife thinks I'm building a Transformer
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froggy
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I think you can call it whatever you want as it's going to get a new vin and reg
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stealthstylz
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Has to not be a copyrighted name iirc so you wouldn't be able to called it Ford or RS200. I think you should call it Brenda.
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