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Apr 25, 2018 13:07:22 GMT
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Indeed BPR. There are a number of things I can do... it's become a topic of discussion but that's really just because I like to type out my thoughts.
Really it's a question of doing something once, right, and getting it safely to RRG at a point in time where work is crushing me hard so I really haven't got any time to try something and get it wrong. I have everything I need to tackle the sump. I just have to decide whether to go all out and fit a new old sump or drain the oil, clean the hole, use a fresh sump plug with the full complement of thread (even if it threads going in) and slather it all in a sufficient amount of Loctite 577 to try and keep the drips at bay.
If I can get it back to merely the standard 'old car drip' in the quickest way possible, I will.
After that, I want to be as certain as possible of being free of this irritation, so I'm going to bench test the new old sump to be absolutely sure before fitting it.
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Apr 25, 2018 13:58:53 GMT
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As to welding up the sump and starting again... that would be great... but I work in the kerb with the bare minimum of basic tools and no power source. I have no welder, no weldling equipment and absolutely no welding experience. I also have no budget and no time... so going out and investing in the kit and the education needed to weld up the sump for RRG simply isn't an option.
I agree that the best option in terms of likely outcome and amount of time/effort will be to replace the sump. I just want to make sure it's going to work first, and of course, it will all need properly cleaning up, rust protecting and painting first.
Post edited: I followed a train of thought and the post got too long and sounded a bit ranty when it wasn't actually ranty at all = )
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Last Edit: Apr 25, 2018 14:17:23 GMT by Deleted
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Apr 25, 2018 14:53:11 GMT
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I'd considered carpet tiles when the lining on the '38 lets go (which, miraculously, it hasn't done yet) but I'm torn between lambs wool and silk. 😊 I bought some very cheap thin carpet from one of the carpet warehouses and stuck that in the roof of my Landrover with evo stick (the proper stuff which comes in a tin not the feeble spray on stuff, still fine now 7 years later. You do get a bit light headed brushing it on inside the car though! Aw you two, come on now... I was only joking about using carpet. This a professional build thread. I wont allow genuine discussions about gluing carpet to roofs in this highly respectable engineering and restoration discussion-space. My old Bedford van came to me with what must have been £100s worth of fine quality carpet semi-permanently glued to the roof from front to back. It was ruddy 'orrible. It must have been up there for years and had absorbed and trapped loads of biological unpleasantness. I felt certain that previous owners would have used it as a wiping surface for nose picking activities. As I drove along little bits of stuff would be tinkling down, creating the impression of nuclear winter inside the cab. It would fall into my eyes and almost blind me at the most inopportune moments. It took me a lot of time and effort to wrench it all off but the good thing was ... once it was wrenched off it was already in the back of my van ready to go to the tip!
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Apr 25, 2018 19:41:48 GMT
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sandy , me old mucker ! ....something to bear in mind , in case it has not crossed your cerebellum , is that sometimes , in trying to gouge a different thread in a sump , the metal ring the sump thread is mashed into cracks , and leaks from the crack .
so a thorough brake cleaning and your strongest glasses ,and adopting a prone position maybe a wise path and give your ring a really good looking at to see if its cracked and leaking .
RJ
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vulgalour
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Apr 25, 2018 20:03:12 GMT
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While you're at it, have a look at the sump plug too. ARF ARF.
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Apr 25, 2018 20:15:53 GMT
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sandy , me old mucker ! ....something to bear in mind , in case it has not crossed your cerebellum , is that sometimes , in trying to gouge a different thread in a sump , the metal ring the sump thread is mashed into cracks , and leaks from the crack . so a thorough brake cleaning and your strongest glasses ,and adopting a prone position maybe a wise path and give your ring a really good looking at to see if its cracked and leaking . RJ Ahhhh, you know what, I bet that's what it is. It leaves me wondering how the garage managed to make it leak free for a year but if you are right then they must have found a way to pack it/seal it. But I bet you're right. I ruddy well bet you ruddy well are Julian. It had not crossed my ruddy cerebellum at all. Not ruddy well once. Do you know the thing I get really the most annoyed about most of ruddy all when I'm having to endlessly drain the ruddy oil out to try and clean the ruddy hole. Do you know? Do you know what annoys me the ruddy most? You don't know. You don't know what annoys me the most, so I'm ruddy well going to tell you what it is. It's the ruddy fact that the ruddy oil never stops coming out. Ever. Not ruddy ever. I left it draining for a ruddy day once last year (actually overnight too), and I did stuff like scooping out the last of the oil, stuffing a sponge and a ruddy rag in there to soak up the last of it. Then I'd ruddy well start cleaning it and some ruddy oil would ruddy well come out again. That's the thing that really makes me ruddy furious about constantly having to drain the ruddy oil. The ruddy oil is what annoys me. The ruddy oil annoys me the most because it doesn't just ruddy ever properly ruddy leave.
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This was the NAUGHTY CORNERjohnthesparky
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Apr 25, 2018 20:25:29 GMT
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sandy , me old mucker ! ....something to bear in mind , in case it has not crossed your cerebellum , is that sometimes , in trying to gouge a different thread in a sump , the metal ring the sump thread is mashed into cracks , and leaks from the crack . so a thorough brake cleaning and your strongest glasses ,and adopting a prone position maybe a wise path and give your ring a really good looking at to see if its cracked and leaking . RJ Ahhhh, you know what, I bet that's what it is. It leaves me wondering how the garage managed to make it leak free for a year but if you are right then they must have found a way to pack it/seal it. But I bet you're right. I ruddy well bet you ruddy well are Julian. It had not crossed my ruddy cerebellum at all. Not ruddy well once. Do you know the thing I get really the most annoyed about most of ruddy all when I'm having to endlessly drain the ruddy oil out to try and clean the ruddy hole. Do you know? Do you know what annoys me the ruddy most? You don't know. You don't know what annoys me the most, so I'm ruddy well going to tell you what it is. It's the ruddy fact that the ruddy oil never stops coming out. Ever. Not ruddy ever. I left it draining for a ruddy day once last year (actually overnight too), and I did stuff like scooping out the last of the oil, stuffing a sponge and a ruddy rag in there to soak up the last of it. Then I'd ruddy well start cleaning it and some ruddy oil would ruddy well come out again. That's the thing that really makes me ruddy furious about constantly having to drain the ruddy oil. The ruddy oil is what annoys me. The ruddy oil annoys me the most because it doesn't just ruddy ever properly ruddy leave. That’s not the oils fault though, that’s because of gravity!
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Apr 25, 2018 20:37:13 GMT
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GRAVITY BE DAMNED! My car is always parked outside my house. A one way street, so the car is already tipped about 30º because of the insane camber of the road. Then I jack it up at the driver's side so it tips even further away from the hole. So by rights, if gravity was doing its ruddy job properly, all the residual oil should be pooling at the far side of the sump away from the ruddy hole. BUT IT RUDDY DOESN'T. SO SOD GRAVITY AND ITS HIGHLY SELECTIVE APPROACH TO A VERY SIMPLE TASK, AND SOD OIL FOR BEING COMPLICIT IN THE RUSE. Next time, I'm tipping the car onto its roof. And setting fire to it to burn all the oil off.
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Apr 25, 2018 20:39:40 GMT
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You need to put the car on it's ruddy roof when draining the oil, much better access and it does not drip at all. Slightly easier option, squirt some petrol into the sump plug hole & pop a lit match in it - this will burn all the ruddy oil out of the sump. Hope this helps?...... Edit......damn, you out thought me!!
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Apr 25, 2018 20:46:47 GMT
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Hahaha, I'm always one step ahead Blackpop. Always anticipating everybody's next move.
It's why I'm so good at chess.
Wait, not chess. I don't play chess.
What am I thinking of....
oh yes. Snap. I'm ruddy good at snap. Best in class. You just have to shout SNAP! every time somebody puts a card down. Never fails. Nobody will play me anymore because they know they can't beat me.
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Apr 25, 2018 20:50:34 GMT
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Some bloke has started an MR2 progress thread on here with a photo essay of how he fixed his Christmas tree lights. Then he took a photograph of a big hole and some dirt, and then he went to Canada while somebody built him a wall.
I'm not going to be outdone by that kind of horesplay. THIS is the worst progress thread on RetroRides. It always has been, AND IT ALWAYS WILL BE.
*RUDDY WELL RAGES ABOUT THE RUDDY COMPETITION*
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ruddy ˈrʌdi/Submit adjective 1. (of a person's face) having a healthy red colour. "a cheerful pipe-smoking man of ruddy complexion" 2. BRITISHinformal used as a euphemism for ‘bloody’. "young people today, they're a ruddy shower" synonyms: complete, total, utter; More verb 1. make ruddy in colour. "a red flash ruddied the belly of a cloud"
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reliantreviver
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Just get the sump plug bunged up once and for all and start using an extractor pump down the dipstick hole would you.
Better for all involved I think.
Out of interest, do you have any idea what size the existing, many times hassled, sump plug is? There are neat little sump plug re-tapping kits online. Can't you just be using one of these?
It could well be the last re-tapping attempt was not properly square and the plug is not tightening down parallel.
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Current: Reliant "750" Super Robin, Scimitar SS1s - 2 x 1300, 1 x 1600, 1 x 1800ti. 76 years off the road between them! Also - Mitsubishi Galant Sport and Hyundai Coupe Gen3
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Out of interest, do you have any idea what size the existing, many times hassled, sump plug is? Nothing accurate that I can quote in figures, but to give you an idea... I'm past re-tapping the hole now. It just needs the sump replacing long term, and short term if I try to get it to RRG I'm just going to pull it, use a fresh sump plug from my extensive collection, Loctite557 it and pack as many bodges on top as I can. It could well be the last re-tapping attempt was not properly square and the plug is not tightening down parallel. That may well be an additional factor but the most obvious thing is that the threads don't match and the plug was just forced in anyway, which chewed all the thread off the sump plug. I've been trying not to worry about the possibility of bits of thread floating around in my oil.
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Last Edit: Apr 26, 2018 7:33:00 GMT by Deleted
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I couldn't resist. Something didn't feel right about sitting at my desk and having my rocker covers staring at me like a couple of stove enamelled puppy orhpans.
So I decided to get them back on this morning. Cup of coffee, Hylomar everywhere, no swearing at all, and back on they went.
In an effort to add dimensionality and interest to my thread I decided to take a video to record the restart just in case something wonderful happened. Nothing wonderful happened.
But I may as well put the video up anyway. It scores a zero on the "worth watching?" scale.
Does sound like a ruddy tractor though.
A ruddy tractor! of all things!
Might be something to do with having no oil in it. I've gone off oil. I'm running all my cars dry from now on. A bit of graphite shavings from some organically sourced pencils will do the oil's job adequately, I'm certain of that.
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jamesd1972
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Apr 26, 2018 10:50:48 GMT
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Cool, actual car stuff, didn’t sound too much lik a tractor so take it as a win ! Do we need to have a whip round to sponsor a tube of autosol and a rag to polish up the steering wheel centre a bit? Rest of the dash bodges look ok so reckon it’s letting the side down. Anyway about that sump plug fixed it yet... Ta for sharing James
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reliantreviver
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Apr 26, 2018 10:53:25 GMT
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I've been trying not to worry about the possibility of bits of thread floating around in my oil. I'd be more worried about actual oily car related bits floating around in this thread. V6 on straight pipes does indeed sound agricultural. You're lying about the oil, I can see pressure on the gauge... unless that's broken too.
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Current: Reliant "750" Super Robin, Scimitar SS1s - 2 x 1300, 1 x 1600, 1 x 1800ti. 76 years off the road between them! Also - Mitsubishi Galant Sport and Hyundai Coupe Gen3
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Apr 26, 2018 10:54:52 GMT
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It has always held good oil pressure. Behaves exactly as it should. According to the gauge anyway. James, I have Autosol, I have rags. I should probably have a go at that at some point. At this point though all of my dreams of arriving at RRG in an immaculate ode to automotive style have been abandoned. It's the essential oily stuff from here onwards if I have any chance of getting it there. Next job... run it around to see if it's still bogging. If so, isolate the servo, try it again. If it's the servo... decide if I can live with it for now or go ahead and replace it. Then... Ruddy sump plug. Then... ruddy I don't ruddy know. I'll have to go back through pages of all you lot's drivel to find where I made my lists.
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glenanderson
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Apr 26, 2018 12:20:32 GMT
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I can live with all sorts of mess and clutter, but I couldn’t sit in that driver’s seat for five minutes without straightening up that speedo... 😱😱😱😱
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Apr 26, 2018 12:49:43 GMT
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Ahahaha.
I feel exactly the same way Glen. The car came to me with a working speedo. Later, it stopped working and I pulled it out to see if a bit of fiddling might help.
It didn't, but I pulled it out few times and then concluded I either needed a new dial or a new cable and either way the dial would need to come out again.
So I popped it back in temporarily, with a view to tackling it as a less-than-essential improvement.
That was about 12 months ago. I just avoid looking at it.
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