strongcomputer
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Because you stalked me on PH through posts a decade old. I am Stuart Brown of www.3dengineers.co.uk and have created and published my own research re the Mystery Car. You have plagiarised and bastardised my work. If you won't give up your name, you are the archetypal person in their undies living with their mum typing rubbish (and creating drawings) into the interweb to seem important. Then I shall give you a clue.
I designed my first two car bodies whilst I was still at school. They both competed in the old Shell Mileage Marathon, and we won our class one year.
Now, I hope you won't go stalking me on Google, will you?
Am not going to waste a second of my time on Google or Bing etc. Just fezz up and stop being a whatever. Post your designs. We all might be impressed? Still does not stop you being 100% wrong re the mystery car. As a clue, how are you going to explain a windscreen 90% the size of the windscreens put forward as possibilities? You really are foolish. The worst kind of forum person. |
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Mystery Car - Pistonheadsfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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This would make a great plot of a Midsomer Murders episode. Two feuding car designers argue over copyright issues recreating a car that was designed over forty years ago.
Can Barnaby calm the situation down before things get out of hand and disrupts the peace of RetroRidesVille forever?!
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strongcomputer
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Borrani72 is not a car designer. He created something at school with some mates that won something or other. Using Sketchup 2017 makes you a cheap skate D.
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strongcomputer
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Borrani72 is not a car designer. He created something at school with some mates that won something or other. Using Sketchup 2017 makes you a cheap skate D. On the other hand and there are many others...    Getting back to mystery car. He is talking BS. |
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Mystery Car - Pistonheadsfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Borrani72 is not a car designer. He created something at school with some mates that won something or other. Using Sketchup 2017 makes you a cheap skate D. The pedigree, background, or education of a person is irrelevant if the time is spent arguing on the internet rather than putting that knowledge to a creative use. The recent posts on this thread a real shame and unbefitting of the ability that’s clearly available. |
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strongcomputer
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Borrani72 is not a car designer. He created something at school with some mates that won something or other. Using Sketchup 2017 makes you a cheap skate D. The pedigree, background, or education of a person is irrelevant if the time is spent arguing on the internet rather than putting that knowledge to a creative use. The recent posts on this thread a real shame and unbefitting of the ability that’s clearly available.   Am so looking forward to next week. 3000 posts(?) vs me. Will be interesting. Blue car is very close to what Borrani72 created from my work. |
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Wasn't this thread supposed to be a bit of fun, bit of a puzzle to ponder over rather than 2 clearly intelligent people blowing it out of all proportion? Can we leave the personal digs at the door before the thread gets locked and everyone loses out.
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Mystery Car - Pistonheadsfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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The pedigree, background, or education of a person is irrelevant if the time is spent arguing on the internet rather than putting that knowledge to a creative use. The recent posts on this thread a real shame and unbefitting of the ability that’s clearly available. Am so looking forward to next week. 3000 posts(?) vs me. Will be interesting. Blue car is very close to what Borrani72 created from my work. 3000 posts versus you? I’m confused and concerned for you. You don’t think this is some kind of competition between you and me do you? It’s quite apparent you have much greater knowledge on car design and image creation. I just think it’s sad the sniping that’s taken place between you and borrani and my comments are merely in reflection of that. This thread for me is pure intrigue and mystery and would be happy for anyone to categorically state they have discovered the answer. I’m not fussed either way. I prefer the thrill of the chase rather than eating the mouse once it’s caught. |
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strongcomputer
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Wasn't this thread supposed to be a bit of fun, bit of a puzzle to ponder over rather than 2 clearly intelligent people blowing it out of all proportion? Can we leave the personal digs at the door before the thread gets locked and everyone loses out. Let it be locked. Will be banned shortly in any case more than likely. Frankly, any forum that lets an outright anonymous fantasist and copyright thief (Borrani72) have equal weight to a person who creates his own work is undeserving of the patronage of a creative. Shameful. |
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Mystery Car - Pistonheadsfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Wasn't this thread supposed to be a bit of fun, bit of a puzzle to ponder over rather than 2 clearly intelligent people blowing it out of all proportion? Can we leave the personal digs at the door before the thread gets locked and everyone loses out. Let it be locked. Will be banned shortly in any case more than likely. Frankly, any forum that lets an outright anonymous fantasist and copyright thief (Borrani72) have equal weight to a person who creates his own work is undeserving of the patronage of a creative. Shameful. We are all equal here |
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Wasn't this thread supposed to be a bit of fun, bit of a puzzle to ponder over rather than 2 clearly intelligent people blowing it out of all proportion? Can we leave the personal digs at the door before the thread gets locked and everyone loses out. Let it be locked. Will be banned shortly in any case more than likely. Frankly, any forum that lets an outright anonymous fantasist and copyright thief (Borrani72) have equal weight to a person who creates his own work is undeserving of the patronage of a creative. Shameful. Personally I've enjoyed this thread over the past however many years, I'd rather somebody who just turned up to specifically start arguing with everyone on one thread doesn't get it locked. |
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If at first you don't succeed........
....Don't try skydiving!
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strongcomputer
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Have had to deal with the serial bull-shitter Borrani72 for the last three years over a number of forums. At this stage am all forumed out. Ban me and let the B72 sausage jockey steer your course on the mystery car thread. Talking as opposed to conclusions is all forums seem to be about.
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jimi
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Personally I think two people with less than 3 weeks membership of RR between them should take their petty schoolboy argument elsewhere and stop lowering the tone of this forum. Where's a Dislike button when you need one  |
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Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour
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Mystery Car - Pistonheadsfr€$h&m1nt¥
@freshandminty
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Personally I think two people with less than 3 weeks membership of RR between them should take their petty schoolboy argument elsewhere and stop lowering the tone of this forum. Where's a Dislike button when you need one Cog > Report Post > Enter reason and submit.  |
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strongcomputer
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Personally I think two people with less than 3 weeks membership of RR between them should take their petty schoolboy argument elsewhere and stop lowering the tone of this forum. Where's a Dislike button when you need one Cog > Report Post > Enter reason and submit. Do it. Don't give a whatever. Forums like this are talking shops for nothing people. |
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stealthstylz
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The funniest thing about this is that even if you could 100% guarantee what the car is based on you'd still be absolutely non the wiser of what the car actually is, and therefore your extraordinary efforts are pretty much futile as they still don't answer the question asked originally
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Then I shall give you a clue.
I designed my first two car bodies whilst I was still at school. They both competed in the old Shell Mileage Marathon, and we won our class one year.
Now, I hope you won't go stalking me on Google, will you?
Am not going to waste a second of my time on Google or Bing etc. Just fezz up and stop being a whatever. Post your designs. We all might be impressed? Still does not stop you being 100% wrong re the mystery car. As a clue, how are you going to explain a windscreen 90% the size of the windscreens put forward as possibilities? You really are foolish. The worst kind of forum person. [This has all got rather rediculous, so apologies to everyone for this, but I'm afraid I do feel the need for this to be said. Then maybe we can get back to sensible, courteous discussions].
As you have challenged me to back-up my claim about the size of the car, and given the specific circumstances you have created, I fear I MUST take that as permission to 'bastardise' (as you put it)/re-post some of your images, in order to provide some clarity in-regard to some of your claims against me.
I feel this entirely justified and indeed NECCESSARY as you have made some serious accusations against me today, and this is the only way to establish the truth of the matter. You may not know who I am, but others do, and you have now maligned my professional standing on a public forum. Even should your posts be deleted, I fear the reputational risk remains (they have already been read by some) unless interested parties are at least able to see my reply here.
[Should 3Dengineers choose to complain about copyright infringement, I can only apologise to the moderators in advance should this put them in a difficult position. I would ask them however to consider, having been publicly maligned in this way, that my right to defend my reputation outweighs any potential copyright infringement claim. I would also respectfully suggest that any supposed infringement may very well already be considered fair dealing for a variety of reasons].
As many readers will know, you have purchased and 3D scanned the rear screen from a Minx/Rapier. Therefore, this will be the most accurate part of any CAD model featuring the scan.
That being so, can you explain why, when I match the size of the original image to you CAD model, the windscreen of your model is about 10% smaller? Please measure the wheelbase of the images. They are the same. Then measure the height of the windscreen. They do not match. The 'screen on your model is too small. This I suggest can mean only one thing. The CAD model based on the Alpine is too big.
The green lines in both images are exactly the same size. Note the outer edges of the window rubbers.
I have covered-up as much of your image as possible so as to minimise any potential copyright infringement. The rearmost image is by Stuart Brown of 3Dengineers - most definitely NOT by me.
This image, again by Stuart Brown of 3Dengineers - most definitely NOT by me, shows his PROOF of the Alpine underpinnings of the mystery car.
Here, for clarity, I have outlined some key features, overlaying the 3Dengineers image. Perhaps Mr Brown, you can explain the curious alignment of the inner -wheelarches. The alignment you claim as PROOF, appears to depend upon their being moved forward/inward?? Please explain?
This is an image from 3Dengineers, about 2-years old, showing an earlier iteration of their CAD model of the mystery car.
This is an image, created by me without the benefit of a CAD package, at about the same time.
This is an image, again by 3Dengineers, posted a few weeks ago. 
Note the similarities between my image, above, and the features of this latest 3Dengineers model, especially around the tail of the car. Who has copied who?
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strongcomputer
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The funniest thing about this is that even if you could 100% guarantee what the car is based on you'd still be absolutely non the wiser of what the car actually is, and therefore your extraordinary efforts are pretty much futile as they still don't answer the question asked originally Completely agree. And that is your and the blue forums assumptions up in smoke. My efforts have been aimed at proving what a total load of horse XXXX re creating cars exactly is. Name the marque. Completely full of people claiming tool room copies etc. My conclusions on the mystery car are aimed at showing how forums are totally full of rubbish and incorrect opinion. My conclusions are no way near conclusive. However they will show what a futile exercise it is posting on forums. |
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