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May 18, 2016 10:27:31 GMT
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Hi everyone. I'm new here, so far this forum has given me big ideas... I'm not sure thats a bad thing or not yet haha I'm in the process of turning a 68' Bedford Debonair into a campervan for my campervan hire business, its a great looking van but as its a rental I want to make the driving experience a whole lot smoother and safer. The 200 mile drive home from picking it up made me realise this... Learning to use a column shift for the first time in rush hour traffic through a city after closing a petrol station down due to a fuel leak... Plus I wasn't so keen on getting sucked into the draft of every lorry that went by! I'm thinking about either just swapping the engine out and reinforcing the chassis thats there or preferably plonking the body onto a more modern chassis with better steering, suspension and engine etc... Really I could do with a few suggestions as to engines and chassis that might best suit what i'm doing. Much appreciated!
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May 18, 2016 12:15:15 GMT
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Easier to simply sell the Bedford and buy something more suitable. After all if it's a hire vehicle then insurance for customers is going to be difficult on a modified camper. Room is tight on the CA so don't think there are many options for engine swop anyway. Swop chassis and you are getting into a whole world of BIVA / Q reg / and such as very doubtful there is a rolling chassis that would fit under the body without requiring some modification.
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May 18, 2016 17:45:43 GMT
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Quite, thanks for alerting us to this but luckily we insure the vehicles for our customers and my insurance company are happy with what we plan to do. I didn't expect to find a chassis that I could just lift onto, 200 onto a freight for example. With regards to BIVA, I am more than happy to meet specifications to ensure the safety of my vehicles as that is of paramount concern to our business. Q-reg is based on a points system, and if say I bought a Hiace chassis and kept the suspension, axles and engine, then shimmied the Debonair body onto it then I suppose I would have enough points to call it a Hiace and not an incomplete car. I also own a CA Romany Dormobile that has had a 2L Pinto in it and take a look at this debonairteacompany.blogspot.co.uk/ two pioneering people have grafted a Mazda MX5 engine into theirs, with lots of informative pictures. After much deliberation today however, what I want to do is strengthen the chassis and find an automatic gearbox for a 2.0 pinto. If anyone has done anything similar I would love to hear from you!
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May 18, 2016 18:13:08 GMT
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That's a lot of expensive glass you're going to have to get made to EC spec to get a camper through BIVA . . . .
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May 18, 2016 19:18:30 GMT
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I think you'll find that getting a 60's camper body and dash through an BIVA will be a nightmare, try having a look at blackpop racings thread entitled IVA rebuild in the readers rides section to get an idea of what is required. As soon as you cut the hilux chassis (or cut anything off it) to make it fit under the van then you are into BIVA territory.
Why not just educate people they are hiring a 50 year old commercial vehicle and encourage them to drive accordingly, avoiding cruising flat out on motorways etc, make them aware its not going to corner or hold the road like a modern car, that said some vehicles are just prone to drafts and sidewinds. I had a modern (mid 2000's) LWB Hitop Hiace camper literally jump 3ft over the centre line when hit by a sudden gust of wind, luckily it also pushed the log truck coming the other way as well or it would have ended badly.
I got 100 yards driving experience with a column change manual before getting to a mega busy junction onto the motorway at night, that was about enough for me to get the jist of it, if it was properly adjusted and not worn to oblivion it would have been easier... If its a column change auto then I can't see anybody having a problem, Ford/ Mazda were still doing column shift in the Maverick/ Tribune through till they stopped UK sales in 2006.
The auto gearbox you want is either the ALD4 as fitted in Sierras, transits and Granada - but check on what electronics are fitted to your pinto engine as it may need some to work I don't know for sure, or the earlier C3 as fitted in Cortinas etc which doesn't require any electronics to work. Your pinto will need an unleaded head conversion too unless its one of the very last ones so its suitable run on unleaded without needing additives.
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May 19, 2016 16:36:49 GMT
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Thankyou for all the help! Unfortunately not all of our clients will be mechanically minded, and as much as I enjoy driving the thing, I think some people will struggle. Thanks for the heads up on the head conversion and the gearboxes.
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May 19, 2016 19:04:15 GMT
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Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding things here but would it be more viable to get a modern camper van and fit the Bedford front bodywork to it? You could modify the back half (three quarters) to look a bit more period, less plastic-y and fit out the interior in retro style and keep all the modern conveniences.
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May 19, 2016 20:03:22 GMT
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My Trojan is correctly registered with the dvla no IVA no Q reg as i did it the correct way.I even had a visit from DVLA its a re body look at my build that I'm doing.Its not easy if you want to do it correct but thats the only way to do it.Do it right
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