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Delighted to see another Fulvia being resurrected; I used to work in a business called Classico in Suffolk restoring them many years ago. Are you in the Lancia club? I have just bought myself a 1972 1.3 second series (5-speed) berlina. I understand that the Powerspark kit for the Bedford CF 1970-on with the Delco distributor (kit number K25) will fit the Marelli distributor on the Fulvia and they are on ebay £39.95 retail from the seller SimonBBC: Delco D300 Electronic Ignition Kit Distributor for 1.8, 2.3 Vauxhall & Opel 4 cyl. I was tempted to fit one of these but I read up Powerspark's feedback and reviews and they are good but not foolproof, if you believe all you read... And the issue with this kit is that you need to remove the distributor, knock out the roll pin and fit the 'chopper'/reluctor that goes over the cam. Unlike a Lucas distributor, the Marelli of course has the advance-retard mechanism on the top. If the electronic unit fails (or you think it has failed), then a roadside swap back to points is a bit awkward. If you used the Ducellier unit, you could find an electronic trigger kit and chopper that you could swap out easily if it was suspect. I imagine Simonbbc the Powerspark man could supply a unit, or look for a Citroen/Peugeot/Renault/Simca application of the same distributor, that has an electronic kit for it? I am using a points-triggered Sparkrite system that has a switch on top to turn it off completely, switch to points and condenser, or run on the electronic amplifier.  |
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Last Edit: Apr 6, 2016 16:00:23 GMT by slimlavud
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123 Ignition do definitely do a Fulvia distributer, it's not cheap though. I ran my Fulvia with points, with one of the ignition amplifiers / transistor switchers as Waxoyling Lyrical mentioned and also with a full 3d mapped electronic ignition system using modern coil direct fire coils. Using the ignition amplifier the car did start a little more keenly than with just points. It essentially felt like that clean fresh points feeling all the time. Adding the electronic ignition system there was a further improvement in starting, idle quality and low revs running. Genera;ly everything just felt a fraction smoother and cleaner. While I was able to programme in some vacuum advance what I did notice was, with the standard comparatively large carbs on the little 1300 engine, that the engine drew very little vacuum. So the vacuum advance only made a difference at very small throttle openings and even when cruising at 40-50 on part throttle there was so little vacuum that it probably wouldn't be running any of the extra advance. On thing I was able to improve with custom mapped ignition was the stability of the idle speed. On the stock system my Fulvia either seemed to want to idle at 500rpm or at 1300rpm, and a little tweak of the throttle stop on the carbs made it jump from one to the other. It may have been an idiosyncrasy of my car, or a worn distributer but I feel it used to start the mechanical advance very early. If I were to do it again, I have to say I'd probably stick to points. My Fulvia required at least weekly (...more like daily) adjustment or tweaking of something to make it run and drive at it's best, so to give the points a quick clean up and gap once a month isn't a big problem! Hi Goldnrust, I posted some info about electronic ignition on Fulvias; I have a 1972 berlina daily driver/rolling restoration. I wondered if you had any parts left over from your epic Fulvia restoration? I have read most of it and much of it was very familiar (horribly familiar?!) from my time restoring Lancias at a business I was in, in the 1990s. And do you have any of the hub tools/special tools? Thank you, Slim. |
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Last Edit: Apr 7, 2016 13:56:03 GMT by slimlavud
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Hi Slim, well I do remember Classico and I was a customer years ago. Think Ive even got a very old catalogue somewhere in my fulvia stuff. Thanks for that info about the Marelli. I recon thats probably the best solution for me. I have been a member of the lancia club on and off for a long time. Though my membership has lapsed at the moment. Nice Berlina by the way, a great car to have and much underrated I think especially the 5 speed.
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
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I've always loved the Fulvia, one of the prettiest cars ever as far as I'm concerned. I'm not really a front wheel driver but I'd give one a go. Good luck with your build  |
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Tah very much. Just received a solex rebuild kit (from germany via Ebay actually) so will be getting those solex 35mm on the old girl. Also have been researching the subframe mounts welding ...errrm looks complicated !!
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
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Tah very much. Just received a solex rebuild kit (from germany via Ebay actually) so will be getting those solex 35mm on the old girl. Also have been researching the subframe mounts welding ...errrm looks complicated !! I just realised I might be telling you a lot of what you already know, but just in case: Ah yes, the old rear subframe mounting... Have a good look at goldnrust's thread - he did a great job on his. As he points out, it is important to weld them in at the right height and position - take measurements and notes and pics as you do them. You can buy them ready made from David Ashworth at lanciaclassic.com or I reckon www.classiccarpartsandpanels.co.uk will make one cheaper from a pattern; they made the rear roof section (in one piece unlike most firms who make them in three pieces) for the Integrale in the photo. Yes, only a Lancia could rust out at the rear of the roof panel... Or make the boxes yourself - I used to get them folded up locally to our restoration workshop in Suffolk and also made a couple of sets by welding thick steel plate into the right box shape, you can re-use the captive nut on the top if it is OK, they usually are. For higher performance cars, HF 1.3s and 1.6s, I would also weld a length of box section steel to the back of the subframe mount, the other end welded to the front mounting for the rear spring. This takes the place of the rather ineffectual centre sill 'membrane' and stiffens the car up a lot... Good luck, the first series Fulvia coupes are such sweet cars, lighter than later coupes and better made in many ways... I used to recondition a lot of the Solex carbs, I would ream out the bushes using a jig and a piloted reamer, and fit oversize spindles as, unlike Webers and Dellortos, they don't have bearings but bronze bushes. I would be careful when cleaning the carbs, I used to soak them in a cleaning/acid mixture that I made up myself. Usually worked fine but I had two sets where the pilot/idle circuits got clogged by the mixture and what it must have loosened in the carbs and I had to remove the soft alloy blanking plugs (drilled them and pulled them out out with a screw, then turned up new press fit ones on the lathe and drove them in) to get to the offending clogged passages, to get them to work again. So I wouldn't immerse them completely in anything. |
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Last Edit: Apr 8, 2016 13:15:21 GMT by slimlavud
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crahel
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Great to see another Fulvia being sorted. good luck with the subframe and sills.
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1973 Lancia Fulvia s2 coupe (sold)
1998 Audi a4 sedan (sold)
2000 Nissan maxima (sold)
2007 Audi convertible.
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kev13s
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+1 on the pertronix but I've also got a friend who has the maplin unit is is very happy with it too.
Great post Slim, very interesting regarding the brace welded from subframe to rear spring hanger but I could do with a bit more detail. If you recall series 1 cars have an aluminium blocks that bolt to the body as the forward spring hanger so I'd assume you couldn't weld to these. You wouldn't have any picture's of this work?
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May 17, 2016 19:16:29 GMT
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 just before some structural welding on the subframe boxes.  well could be worse..... well actually the other side is worse. Can stop now.  first side ready to put the boxes in. gulp.... |
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
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May 17, 2016 19:22:05 GMT
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thanks to david at www.lanciaclassic.com for panels and boxes. Got to get some arches and some inner arches and ....some well theres loads to get. have to get some cash together from somewhere. |
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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mattiwagon
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May 17, 2016 20:40:42 GMT
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Goodluck dude!
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If they cant be nice f**k em!
84 low t25 panel 1.9td beige and rust combo
97 Goped Bigfoot G260RC with clutch conversion
97 Impreza turbo 2000 builders wagon 76k sold
04 Fabia vRs 50mpg pocket rocket
04 battered T5 pickup in blue!
Chainsaws lotsa Chainsaws
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 front subframe box inside with new cill attached.   rear of the new cill  front box again with the rubber doughnut  along the side  subframe boxes before they go in so the otherside yet to be done which is in a right state. the old welding I did 10 years ago on the floorpan and inside is still holding up ok but theres not alot that isnt really rusty and falling to bits. Well ive started now. Thanks to Steve and Ollie at OJ motors for their going along with the plan and doing the scarey stuctural stuff. Next the wheel arches and panels to the cills to close in those holes to get to the structural stuff. Ive got some lovely lightweight aluminium doors with nice glass in them and winders that actually work. More to come later |
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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crahel
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May 20, 2016 10:52:11 GMT
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good work there.
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1973 Lancia Fulvia s2 coupe (sold)
1998 Audi a4 sedan (sold)
2000 Nissan maxima (sold)
2007 Audi convertible.
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May 21, 2016 15:19:32 GMT
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 this is the box set up on the otherside. the worst side.  new plates going in on the floor pan too. |
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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May 21, 2016 16:15:29 GMT
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damn rust gremlins!
really nice work..you have guts!
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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May 27, 2016 11:06:08 GMT
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 more cill work... hopefully to be finished today well with the structural scary bits. new doors to go on then its tackle the wings. |
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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May 31, 2016 10:50:55 GMT
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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May 31, 2016 10:58:04 GMT
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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May 31, 2016 11:16:22 GMT
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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goldnrust
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May 31, 2016 13:34:56 GMT
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Nice work. Gotta feel good to have got the worst of the sill welding done Lovely rare parts to have those Alu doors. Have you got the full aluminium set with the bonnet and boot lid too? |
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