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Jul 17, 2017 11:10:49 GMT
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With LED bulbs would you need to include relays for headlights ? Can't remember which car came with a cigar lighter rather than a cigarette lighter in its ads, was it Jag or Rover ? No headlights planned at present. However, if fitted at a later date, the PDMs can deal with required power without the use of relays.
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Jul 17, 2017 11:51:40 GMT
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Can't remember which car came with a cigar lighter rather than a cigarette lighter in its ads, was it Jag or Rover ? I'm pretty sure that in some of the paperwork I have for my Rover P6 it mentions a cigar lighter rather than the usual run of the mill cigarette lighter. Could be imagining it though!
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scimjim
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Jul 17, 2017 11:52:04 GMT
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I assumed you had no headlights for weight saving reasons and would get a daylight only MOT?
If so, why do you have indicators and brake lights?
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Last Edit: Jul 17, 2017 11:52:32 GMT by scimjim
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Darkspeed
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Jul 17, 2017 12:18:16 GMT
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I assumed you had no headlights for weight saving reasons and would get a daylight only MOT? If so, why do you have indicators and brake lights? I'm not sure that hand signals are adequate for the daytime MOT Motor cycles still need a brake light for Daytime only - I guess emergeny braking with just one hand whilst waving the other that you are stopping is deemed dangerous.
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Jul 17, 2017 13:16:35 GMT
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I assumed you had no headlights for weight saving reasons and would get a daylight only MOT? If so, why do you have indicators and brake lights? Hmmmm, I would have thought that the reasons you need brake and indicator lights would be obvious :-) There is no such thing as a 'daylight MOT' as such. What you can get is an MOT where the lack of lights used for nighttime driving is recorded in the advisory section. As indicators and brake lights are required for daytime driving they are necessary. The rear lamp assemblies have side lights built in and I will have to cover the lenses prior to the MOT You are correct in your assumption that I have left the headlights out for weight reasons, but also as it saves me time. I may well add them at a later date if I decide to drive the car at night. I have the headlamp and front sidelight units on a shelf.
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Last Edit: Jul 17, 2017 13:17:18 GMT by nalesutol
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scimjim
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Jul 17, 2017 13:50:49 GMT
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1.1 Front and rear position lamps
This inspection applies to all vehicles, except those which either have no front or rear position lamps or have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked that are: • only used during daylight hours, and • not used at times of seriously reduced visibility. If this situation occurs, the vehicle presenter should be issued with a VT32 recording the above.
1.2 stop lamps are not required to be fitted to vehicles used only during the hours of daylight, which are fitted with neither front nor rear position lamps, etc. (See 1.1.A).
1.3 A rear fog lamp is not required to be fitted to vehicles used only during the hours of daylight, which are fitted with neither front nor rear position lamps, etc. (See 1.1.A).
1.4 Direction indicators and hazard warning lamps are not required to be fitted to vehicles used only during the hours of daylight, which are fitted with neither front nor rear position lamps, etc. (See 1.1.A) Nor are they required on vehicles first used before 1 January 1936. However, if they are fitted, they must be tested.
1.5 Rear reflectors are not required to be fitted to vehicles used only during the hours of daylight, which are fitted with neither front nor rear position lamps, etc. (See 1.1.A).
1.7 Headlamps
Headlamps are not required to be fitted to vehicles used only during the hours of daylight, which are fitted with neither front nor rear position lamps, etc. (See 1.1.A).
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scimjim
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Jul 17, 2017 13:52:43 GMT
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Jul 17, 2017 14:13:18 GMT
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I would fit brake lights regardless of whether they are required or not.
Its bad enough following a friend at high speed on the push bikes only for him to brake sharply and unexpectedly and me pile into the back of him.
I'd hate it to happen to my shiny new car that's mostly made of one off carbon parts!
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Too many projects, not enough time.
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Jul 17, 2017 14:58:25 GMT
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Well, I stand corrected, or rather my MOT station does as I believed what they told me! That's what I like about this site, lots of brains helping me out :-)
However, I would be mad to drive without brake lights. Indicators? Most BMW owners aren't aware that they are fitted to their cars so they are probably not necessary but I would feel safer with them.
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Last Edit: Jul 17, 2017 15:17:22 GMT by nalesutol
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Darkspeed
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Jul 17, 2017 15:29:07 GMT
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That is really interesting - no lights at all required for daylight! - I guess that if following you should note that the car has no brake lights fitted and adjust your following distance accordingly. Thanks for posting that scimjim -
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scimjim
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Jul 17, 2017 16:16:58 GMT
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Agree with all and I wouldn't drive a car on the road without brake lights - but a sprint car may never be used on the road but in standard class it needs an MOT for the regs, so why carry the extra weight?
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Jul 17, 2017 17:24:56 GMT
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Agree with all and I wouldn't drive a car on the road without brake lights - but a sprint car may never be used on the road but in standard class it needs an MOT for the regs, so why carry the extra weight? Agreed, but my car will be used on the highway so I am prepared to suffer the huge extra weight :-)
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Jul 17, 2017 21:58:21 GMT
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I think that I am almost there. Anyway, I have booked an appointment with Dave, the CEO at DC Electronics (no messing with underlings, me :-)), to discuss getting the loom made.
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Last Edit: Jul 17, 2017 22:29:02 GMT by nalesutol
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jamesd1972
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Ooh just had to google the DC Electronics website. Looks like it could be an OPE (out of pocket experience!) but commensurate with the quality of the rest of the build.
to save anybody else the bother: www.dcelectronics.co.uk/
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Ooh just had to google the DC Electronics website. Looks like it could be an OPE (out of pocket experience!) but commensurate with the quality of the rest of the build.
to save anybody else the bother: www.dcelectronics.co.uk/
You are not wrong there. My meeting with David will include a discussion on what I can do myself in order to minimize the pocket pain. However, this will still be the most expensive single item on the car after the engine and gearbox. The advantages of getting the loom done professionally include the right wire and connectors being used, they know what they are doing, they will fit the loom and come back to sort out any issues.
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Jul 26, 2017 21:42:50 GMT
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An interesting day. Started off with removing the door lock from a soon to be scrapped caravan stored next door as it looked identical to our worn out motorhome one. Unfortunately, it wasn't the same. I was due to meet David at DC Electronics at 2pm so left earlier so I could pop in to the caravan shop in Ulting, but their offerings were no good. Next stop was a quick chat with Geoff Page (my engine guru) prior to meeting David. Geoff said that my car will need to be taken to DCe's place so it can be properly gone over by David and Geoff so they can agree on what needs to be done. We also decided we would add a G sensor, a steering angle sensor and damper potentiometers. However, we can do away with the speed sensor as we can use one of the wheel sensors. Met David at 2pm and agreed to the car coming over at the end of August, actual date to be confirmed. I won't know the cost until it has been properly looked at :-( Next stop was Life Racing in Basildon to drop off my F88 ECU so it can be upgraded to the latest spec. It should be ready in a couple of weeks. When I got home Julia said that Chris from next door needed my urgent help with an adaptor. Went over to see him and what he wanted was to be able to fit a silencer to a sniper rifle and it had to be done tonight at it was off to the film set early tomorrow morning, so no pressure! An hour later the silencer was fitted to the rifle :-) The adaptor isn't actually visible as it is double threaded and joins the silencer to an existing adaptor that had a thread matching that on the rifle barrel.
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Jul 28, 2017 20:22:19 GMT
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Elan booked in for wiring on 7th September. It is starting to dawn on me that I might actually meet my deadline of starting the engine this year!
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jamesd1972
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Jul 28, 2017 20:38:50 GMT
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What do you have to finish off before then ? (Other than saving up !) James
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Jul 28, 2017 21:10:31 GMT
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What do you have to finish off before then ? (Other than saving up !) James Bolt down fuel pump system and tanks Refit steering column and wheel Refit intake pipes and intercooler Buy G-sensor, damper linear sensors (these aren't cheap!) and steering angle sensor (and fit) Fit new electronic throttle body. Fit pneumatic pressure regulator. Remove speedo sensor (not now required as one of the other wheel sensors can be used) Thanks for the nudge. I will use this list (plus what I add as I remember things :-) )
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Last Edit: Jul 28, 2017 21:13:08 GMT by nalesutol
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Interesting next door neighbour! The "To do list" is not too long now, but does mean lots of late nights and long days I'm sure. All the best.
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