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Jan 19, 2016 17:10:49 GMT
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Toyota Estima all seats move around for plenty of seating or folded flat and make a double bed with no modifications. It's the same with the Mitsubishi Delica.
I got a an Estima but it wasn't big enough to get my motorbike in the back as the rear screen curves and bite the bullet and got a LWB MK6 Transit like any van of that era rust is the big issue like it was with my Vito.
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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BT
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Jan 19, 2016 19:59:47 GMT
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I wanted a T4, couldn't justify the stupid price tag so went against everyone's advice and bought a vito. You know what, I loved it, the thing was awesome, went extremely well, tones of room, loads of possibilities, loads available, good on fuel, pleasant to drive, nice and cheap, it was just all round awesome. That said, the gearbox in my one was naff, and I did have to weld some patches onto it, and it did have a small period of not wanting to start however it was easily resolved.
However a lorry driver fell asleep on the M5 and smashed the poor old thing to bits. I have been paid out and I am thinking of getting a V class LPG one.
My friend has just bought a Toyota Grandvia, he loves the thing, ideal as a camper which is what he is going to use it for, super roomy, tonnes of space and seats, bonus was he got it for £900, bargain I think.
Mazda Bongos have tempted me before now.
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Something we seem to miss out on in the UK are the 5th wheel adaptions on pickups, nice pickup for day to day then hitch up trailer when you want more space or carrying capacity. Seem to remember Vosa or dvla have made it difficult though. Ttfn Glenn
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Jan 21, 2016 18:00:23 GMT
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mgmrw
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Cheers for the input and suggestions. Few options I haven't considered.... Now I guess it comes down to what we want.
Vito... Look smart, plenty of options.
Chevy Astro... Just plain cool, if a little bit hillbilly.
Toyota Previa... See "Bumble Campers", few ideas, cheap enough.
But then I do like the largo.
Vito's as bad as everyone reckons?
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As a workhorse, bike lugger, or people mover... Bargain. Unsure if the Mrs will see past its "banger" status
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Jan 23, 2016 11:02:00 GMT
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Vito's as bad as everyone reckons? I started a thread last year on here where I asked about them. retrorides.proboards.com/thread/181175/mercedes-vitos-cool-owner-experienceThe overall response was "go with something else" and in true "me" style I went and bought one anyway. Yeah they have their problems, rot being the biggest, the later ones suffer with injector problems and they can have rubbish gear boxes but like anything if you look and inspect potential vehicles you should dodge any problems. Mine was the 108D, would happily keep up with motorway speeds and then some, loads of space, can fit a double mattress in the back, there are loads of spares about and I honestly did like my one. Since reading this thread I've enquired about another one! Check that the heater matrix works, they sometimes fair and are a pain to change. Check the speedo works, these are a common thing to break and although there are some simple fixes the sender for the speedo is very expensive. The gearboxes are also prone to being a bit poor and crunchy. My last one cost me £300 and was a cracking little van. They also stand up surprisingly well to being smacked by lorries doing 50mph. Always reassuring.
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Jan 23, 2016 12:45:38 GMT
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Cool, appreciate the advice.
The injection issue, replace the washer holding them, and drill out the treads and replace with bigger bolt... Mechanic mate reckons.
Rust & bodywork is the expensive bit.
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Jan 23, 2016 12:55:36 GMT
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How about a camo painted delica l400? Comfy seats, go anywhere do anything 4x4 Mrs is after a motor and i fancy another bike, so shes up for sale if it interests you Heres a piccy, pm if you want a chat so we don't choke up the thread
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Jan 23, 2016 13:30:49 GMT
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Cool, appreciate the advice. The injection issue, replace the washer holding them, and drill out the treads and replace with bigger bolt... Mechanic mate reckons. Rust & bodywork is the expensive bit. I think they have issues getting stuck in or something, I'm not exactly sure what it is but I have no doubt that they are easily overcome with a decent amount of determination. My rust issues on mine were not bad at all. Mine was a 1997 I think and was incredibly better than my friends 54 plate transit. That thing was Manky. The joys with vitos is they have twin sliding doors, they can be unbolted and replaced with sliding doors with Windows. So you can get an old builders van, unbolt the bulkhead and fit some sliding window doors for a camperish feel. That said that camo lump looks awesome.
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Jan 23, 2016 23:13:30 GMT
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I'd happily jump in the delica and drive it anywhere, its a fantastic motor but its too costly for the mrs to insure for some reason so shes getting something else and i fancy getting back on 2 wheels this year
All the rear seats fold away to loads of configurations or you can strap them up and have a van, proper practical to have something that can seat 7 or cart loads of curse word about
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Jan 24, 2016 14:00:12 GMT
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its a fantastic motor but its too costly for the mrs to insure for some reason so shes getting something else Surely thats old enough to qualify for classic car insurance? Our HiLux Surf was over £300 with full no claims on a standard policy but £90 on a classic policy.
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Jan 24, 2016 19:09:28 GMT
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I'm 33 and my policy is 307 for the yearon the delica but my mrs has a medically restricted license and hasnt driven for 5 years
Lasy tear it was 360 just for me and my old surf that was modded was 350
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Jan 25, 2016 22:06:24 GMT
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I'd steer clear of anything registered as a van. I run a Bedford Midi minibus, which is basically a van with rear seats that I have converted to a camper. If you run a car as well you'll end up with 2 insurance policies as I'm yet to find anyone that will insure my Midi for domestic use and my Vectra on the same policy. I used to run a Sportive Astravan as my daily and it was also a pain having no 3rd party cover for other vehicles and I wished I'd bought the equivalent estate in the end. There are vans with windows that are registered as cars, a few funky import J ones come to mind and some VW Caravelles (too expensive), the Vitos with the leather seats and tables (I've seen the post above).
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Jan 25, 2016 22:24:16 GMT
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That camo-Mitsubishi is cool, and I'd happily bivvy down in it.
However, I suspect her of good taste, may disagree with me on what classes as "a camper"
There's a 2004 Vito near by, 165000 on clock, FSH,looks tidy SBD £2k
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Jan 27, 2016 22:45:09 GMT
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Argue the toss with her lol, whats easier to go camping in? A van that can get bogged down in dirt, or the delica, that will happily drive all over it
Plus theres options like roof racks/awnings and other great stuff for camping/ day trips
I'm sure you can get tables for the inside that go in the seat runners ( mystery machine is the man for Delica knoweledge)
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Jan 28, 2016 21:10:34 GMT
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Fair point. Going to research the J & yank stuff.
LHD vortec powered waftyness appeals
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Jan 28, 2016 23:09:28 GMT
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Valid point about the insurance on vans I was lucky they mirrored mine from my Discovery as they couldn't transfer it so I've got a Discovery off the road but insured and my Transit which is as said full of rust.
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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mgmrw
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Valid point about the insurance on vans I was lucky they mirrored mine from my Discovery as they couldn't transfer it so I've got a Discovery off the road but insured and my Transit which is as said full of rust. I insure 3 cars, 1 on a classic policy. The other 2 are with tesco, insuring 1 of them 10 minutes after the other gets further discount.
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