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Jul 10, 2007 11:39:39 GMT
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I thought we were discussing the definition of a lifestyle car. There seem to be several
Lifestyle car - a car that you buy because it enables you to live your lifestyle
Marketing lifestyle car - a car that you buy because it will make other people think you live the lifestle you secretly want to live
Rich mans lifestyle car - any damn car he wants, which match his fancy but have no impact on his actual lifestyle at all
I'm not dissing any of these choices, just stating that they are different and IMHO only one is a real lifestyle
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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Jul 10, 2007 11:49:17 GMT
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the point you miss is the car that you own which then defines your lifestyle...
you have to plan journeys to avoid speed humps you have to plan journeys to avoid needing to park in tight spaces, NCPs, etc. you have to consider the cost of getting there at 7 MPG you consider breakdowns an occupation hazzard you consider broken parts a triumph of power over drivetrain you have "mates" in other countries just to help you get parts for your car you spend too much time on message boards because of it you buy magazines about cars like yours you write to magazines moaning the don't feature cars like yours you write to magazines complaining they got the facts wrong on a car like yours you have more photos of your cars than your family. you have given over half or more of your attic to the storage of parts for it. you can quote the torque settings of the maincap bolts or the jet sizes in the carb off the top of your head you actually understand what these numbers mean you learn a new skill every month just fixing that old heap up. you have appologised to your car at any point... you know people simply because they have a car like yours.
it goes on.
If I didn't "do" cars like what I do, then my life, my friends, my house, my finances, etc. would be very different.
Lifestyle car / car lifestyle...
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Last Edit: Jul 10, 2007 11:49:42 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 10, 2007 11:52:22 GMT
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You risk getting in the dog house every time you buy another new car.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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MWF
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Jul 10, 2007 12:11:09 GMT
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Marketing doesn't just disappear when people get rich. Neither does the need to aspire.
I'm sure even Sir Alan Sugar winces to himself in pain as to whether or not he should get the Roller or the Maybach. Or if as much as he would like an AMV8 convertible what would his peers think if they saw him driving one.
Aspiring goes far beyond having money, people aspire to have taste, knowledge or to just be more interesting. Good marketers play to all these needs.
Anyone willing to criticise the car industry needs to put themselves in their shoes, how do you sell something a bit wacky and alternative to people with this lifestyle element when really you know they actually just want the same practical, reliable, easy to live with car as everyone else.
It also seems to me in some cases you just can't win, if someone buys a 4x4 and doesn't use it off-road they are immediately chastised by some. But then if they accept that and stick road wheels and tyres on they are ripped apart even further. Often on the basis of practicality. Well dig this, slammed suspension and external oil coolers aren't exactly practical modifications for everyday life.
Lifestyle in the modern age has always been more of a veneer than a way of life. I remember at school I was a skater who didn't actually skate and then at college a greebo who listened to euro dance music. That's just the way most of us are, we like taking little bits of 'proper' lifestyles and marketers know it.
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I won't be there when you cross the road, so always use the Green Cross Code.
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Jul 10, 2007 12:16:46 GMT
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Lifestyle in the modern age has always been more of a veneer than a way of life. I remember at school I was a skater who didn't actually skate and then at college a greebo who listened to euro dance music. That's just the way most of us are, we like taking little bits of 'proper' lifestyles and marketers know it. True. I guess the number of people who truely embrace a particular lifestyle is vanishingly small. If it were bigger the marketeers would have worked out how to market to it though! ;D
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This space available to rent. Reach literally dozens of people. Cheap rates!
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Jul 10, 2007 12:25:25 GMT
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Looks like I`ve arrived a bit late to this one, but really as most people use their car to go to work and not many people have ideal parking circumstances the ultimate lifestyle vehicle would surely be one that deflates within minutes and can be folded up and kept in a desk drawer/locker/jacket pocket all day. Either that or one thats so f*cked up and worthless you can just leave it anywhere and if its still there when you come out its a bonus.
Just thinking about the kind of shennanigans I had to get up to just to get parked for the day (for free) when I was doing the 9-5 number in Leeds or somewhere. Accelerating out behind someone before the barrier came down `cos you had no token, or parking up really quick and running so no-one would know you didnt work there, or going into somewhere, reading the code for the car park, and sneaking back out again. Sometimes you`d move the f*cker 3 times in one day. It was all good fun in hindsight but you didnt half wish you could do a Sport Billy on your car and shrink it down or something.
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Jul 10, 2007 12:29:36 GMT
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^^^ wonderful. I have a superb image in my mind now. Thanks. That'll see me thought the afternoon.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 10, 2007 12:38:35 GMT
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Quality! Sport Billy was the best! Although impossible, the folding/supersmall car is something i have been internally mind-mapping for ever! in teh meantime, teh best you have is this: Nice summaries BTW MWF and other people I think I'll sleep a bit better at night now we have stripped this to skellington! ace
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 10, 2007 12:39:57 GMT
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^ and you'd still get funny looks on the train and the office, and visiting tidy relatives/friends
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 10, 2007 13:07:02 GMT
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Whats the betting that guy`s sunnies fold up, too, and slip into an attractive mock-suede holster that he wears round his neck? Anyway so as not to explore a new avenue of getting a thread locked due to excessive sunglasses talk check out this cool customer, looks like he`s got a perfect balance twixt lifestyle/choice of ride:
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Last Edit: Jul 10, 2007 13:07:34 GMT by vicsmith
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Jul 10, 2007 13:27:33 GMT
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These sorts of machines have got popular with retired people and also dabbling in lifestyle too. retro rides future project? suppose if you carry 'stuff' and tall people and want smalish car running costs and sizing then fair do's also, not sure where these fit in but that chap at our B&B in Sardinia used one to cart his guests about. Upon arrival he whisked us down to his place through black-dark country roads at 140Kmh! Gotta say, and hate to say, I really warmed to these wierd looking 6 seaters Did the job brilliantly, very steady ride. defo future retro gold if they last... and another from the past: they even named that ute for its market and I still think they are cool! Maybe Marina Rob could do this if it does not have to go...
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 10, 2007 13:39:11 GMT
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Brats rock.
I reckon one of those Multiplas could be given the treatment. God knows what but I'm sure inspiration would strike anyone brave enough to take one on.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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horney™
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Jul 10, 2007 14:09:42 GMT
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I drive a lifestyle vehicle I think.
I have a VW T25 Panel van which I've converted into a camper/Dayvan. It's used for trips to the beach to surf and weekends away. It's also awesome for visiting friends who have little spare sleeping space. You go round for dinner, get drunk and then stumble out onto the road/drive, climb in and pass out. Next morning you can make your own breakfast and cups of tea without disturbing your hosts and then potter off home. So this vehicle ideally suits my lifestyle of drinking,surfing,camping and retro rides. Oh yeah and I'm skint all the time so at a total cost of less than £2K to buy and build it, it's hardly cost me an arm and a leg or 5 years finance payments.
Nick
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Jul 10, 2007 14:21:17 GMT
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random E30 insertion.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 10, 2007 14:25:57 GMT
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Can`t fail to dig the Brat, not hard to see why they did really well in some markets.
Re: The Multipla, my bro had one, they're ace, pedestrians tend to take less care when crossing in front of you, though, as though they think because it looks unusual it wont hurt if it hits them, or something.
Re: Berlingo, other bro had one (Pug version) I drove it to St albans & back it is a genuine multi-purpose vehicle and I concur not bad to drive/warmed to it and that. Bro used to reckon it was a Matra Rancho for the 21st century.
You want to be careful passing out drunk in that T25, think the feds still class it as drunk in charge. Mind you they`d have to see you through the metal sides so its a not a big thing, is it? Sounds an ideal set up for stopping at your mates without the hassle of stopping at your mates.
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horney™
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Jul 10, 2007 14:35:57 GMT
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You want to be careful passing out drunk in that T25, think the feds still class it as drunk in charge. Mind you they`d have to see you through the metal sides so its a not a big thing, is it? Sounds an ideal set up for stopping at your mates without the hassle of stopping at your mates. They do indeed, normally I'll leave the keys in the friends house so they are not about my person and therefore under law without the keys I am not "In charge" of the vehicle. Car parks when surfing are a bit trickier so I tend to hide the keys in a secret location so if they search the van hey won't find them, not that I have ever had any bother from the fuzz while kipping in it and the Mrs is normally with me and she can sweet talk the fuzz round with a cuppa and a smile. Nick
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Jul 10, 2007 15:34:15 GMT
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my lifestyle is one in which i work 9-6 every day in the city, with an hours commute either way to my luxury apartment in the suburbs. for relaxation in the evenings i do some origami and/or watch a chick flick. at the weekends i like to go to the park, and enjoy a quiet meal with my boyfriend. often i will also go shopping with some friends in the city, which is awful parking in the multi storey but alas, such is life. * this is NOT my lifestyle LOL. however i've just classed a daewoo nubira as a lifestyle vehicle. it just happens to not be our lifestyle...
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Jul 10, 2007 16:19:07 GMT
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random E30 insertion. I want some of that "lifestyle" lush E30 M3 and a tasty looking 'raddo in the garage! On another random note I fitted bonnet blocks to my sierra at the weekend, which IMO look cool, already had two people at work ask if i've had a crash and I had a school kid of about 8 years old shout that "your bonnets open"............. ...............I LOVE IT!!!!!!! ;D
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Jul 10, 2007 16:44:05 GMT
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horney, that just sounds like a clever vehicle! top solution.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Jul 10, 2007 17:38:30 GMT
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You want to be careful passing out drunk in that T25, think the feds still class it as drunk in charge. Mind you they`d have to see you through the metal sides so its a not a big thing, is it? Sounds an ideal set up for stopping at your mates without the hassle of stopping at your mates. Yeah I thought that too, only cos I have been stranded locked out and drunk while staying at mates in the winter, and NEEDED to go and sit in car wait for em and put engine/heater on, very dodgy. But if its a camper and you are firmly in the back and not in the captains seat, reckon they should leave you alone, unless they have summat against surfer types!!1 ;D
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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