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Dec 18, 2015 13:44:59 GMT
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Hopefully heading 200+ miles tomorrow to go and see one of these after a 20 year infatuation with them. Apart from the usual woeful MPG and 'omg apex seals gone', what are they like to live with? Thanks
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oukie
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Dec 18, 2015 14:51:56 GMT
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Deep pockets are required, as you probably already know, but do it lol.
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Dec 18, 2015 17:08:23 GMT
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Luckyseven has a beautiful one.
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Dec 18, 2015 17:25:44 GMT
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Beautiful cars, capable chassis, awful engine.
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Dec 18, 2015 22:55:25 GMT
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Yeah, I've got one. Dunno about beautiful, but thanks anyway Johnners As it happens, I've been daily driving it the last month or so while the FB's getting some garage lurrve, which is surprisingly fun. Being a single turbo you can drive it off-boost fairly well so you're spared the stock twin "OMFG the second turbo just bit and it's raining rather hard... oooof, was that the armco?" moments! Expect fuel economy to make you weep... bank on 20mpg and be pleasantly surprised to get better than that (on a run you can double the mpg, in town half it). Tyres are pretty expensive, depending what you've been used to and what wheels it's running. Rat's nest issues can turn your hair white and shatter your teeth with frustration (the rat's nest is the miles of vacc plumbing and solenoid racks for the turbo switching system... any one component developing a - usually intermittent - fault will cause all kinds of mutant behaviour and be life-shorteningly annoying to diagnose). But get a good one and I firmly believe there's nothing that can touch it for the money, both in terms of driving pleasure and overall satisfaction. We regularly see people sell up on the FD forum, only to come back a year later cos they find they can't live without an FD Do you have a link to the car you're thinking of? Most in the UK are known to someone on FDUK EDIT: if it's been stood for a long time this can often lead to water seal failure. Definitely worth asking how long it's been laid up (if it has). Also, what oil do they use and do they run it on V-power or low-octane? These are signs of someone who knows how to look after one. Mayonnaise in the oil filler cap is not necessarily water/oil mixing (no head gasket, remember, lol); they often condensate a little in the filler neck. Fuel filter is a nightmare to change... ask when it was done, another sign of a loving owner. Usual wisdom is you can modify the intake or the exhaust but if you do both then you at least need some kind of smart boost control and preferably an aftermarket ECU like an Apexi. The stock ECU really isn't too clever at controlling mods and you tend to get bad boost spikes and horrendous fuel cut which will break apex seals.
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Dec 19, 2015 10:49:38 GMT
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Martin is a good lad, I had my last FD from him.
I've ran a few FDs, broken a few, took a few apart and some I've not managed to break.
Living with one as a daily, apart from the cost is the comfort, they're so hot inside! Keep an eye on temps and oil levels and service it regularly. Decent ECU mapping is key, up your way is W.G.T, in Middlewich. Make friends with Pip.
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Dec 19, 2015 10:57:12 GMT
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Yes I've heard good things about him on the FD UK forum. Middlewich is not too far from me, are they a Mazda/rotary specialist?
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Dec 19, 2015 13:30:16 GMT
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Yes I've heard good things about him on the FD UK forum. Middlewich is not too far from me, are they a Mazda/rotary specialist? Yes they are: www.wgtautodevelopments.co.ukNever used them myself, but my mate Matt has had a couple FDs built by Pip and he's kept going back for more. Don't remember a bad word said.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:46:29 GMT
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Aha, buy with confidence! I've dealt loads of times with Martin over the years and he's as solid as they come. I saw that car for sale and once more was struck by how superb a car a stock(ish) FD is. I hope you've already found it to be everything you'd hoped If you haven't already, get over to www.fduk.org/ and sign up to the forum. Great bunch of guys and there'll be everything you need to know right before you. Don't be put off by the front page, there's supposedly an update due. Only been about seven years, lol As to WGT, Pip is a very wise old wol, been doing rotaries for a looooong time and definitely knows his stuff. The only criticism I've heard of his work is that he tends towards the safe and conventional... which arguably isn't actually a bad thing with fragile twin turbo rotaries, lol
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Dec 20, 2015 12:32:53 GMT
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I bought one 5 years back as a none runner with electrical issues which turned out to be a mess of immobilisers that needed ripping out and was bone stock , fitted an updated rad and front mount cooler then took it to pip for an apexi and remap to just under 300hp . Absolutely loved it and one of the best drivers cars I've owned but it had been stood for a couple of years before I had it and the champagne bubbles started appearing after a few months so sold it on .
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Dec 20, 2015 19:21:41 GMT
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Aha, buy with confidence! I've dealt loads of times with Martin over the years and he's as solid as they come. I saw that car for sale and once more was struck by how superb a car a stock(ish) FD is. I hope you've already found it to be everything you'd hoped If you haven't already, get over to www.fduk.org/ and sign up to the forum. Great bunch of guys and there'll be everything you need to know right before you. Don't be put off by the front page, there's supposedly an update due. Only been about seven years, lol As to WGT, Pip is a very wise old wol, been doing rotaries for a looooong time and definitely knows his stuff. The only criticism I've heard of his work is that he tends towards the safe and conventional... which arguably isn't actually a bad thing with fragile twin turbo rotaries, lol Yeah, hoping it doesn't sell before I get to it, going down on Wednesday. Easily the most gorgeous car to come out of Japan.
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Dec 30, 2015 22:40:33 GMT
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I can only assume you bought it Dave? I have lusted after one of these for ages! Enjoy it fella .
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Yes I bought one. Fantastic cars, managed 35mpg on the way home. Whole car is beautiful, but let down with creaky quality interior plastics, but that's the only criticism, and there isn't much of the interior anyway. They're really manageable on a run ... viciously dangerous in the wet - no joke, they're frigging lethal.
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I thought the '96 upgrade included the better quality interior plastics, but maybe it was the '99 update then. Are they covered in a weird rubbery textured eezee-scratch coating or a more modern sorta bobbly textured hard plastic? To be fair, all FDs do suffer badly with squeaky interiors. You can improve matters a bit with dynamat and damping especially bad panels with sticky foam or whatever, but it's an endless task dependent on your personal level of OCD
And yes, they are genuinely dangerous in the wet, especially if the crossover onto second turbo is a bit abrupt due to dodgy solenoids in the rat's nest. Sometimes it can come in with quite a bang, and before you know it's happened you'll be picking shattered armco out of your teeth
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I'm sure post 97 came with cost cut interiors, so you got 'loop pile' carpet instead of 'cut pile' for example and the plastics were exactly that. Mine is the hard plastic. It really doesn't bother me, you only have the dashboard and centre console in these anyway, the interior is tiny! Post 97 also means tidied up 'rats nest' - not sure how less complex it is though. Not 42 individual vacuum lines I bet.
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I will own one at some point. There is something strangely appealing about a Japanese car that breaks down I believe it adds a certain charm to the car besides who really needs a reliable 2nd car
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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Indeed, I reckon I may one day join the RX-7 FD owners. I always loved the shape of them, but the Wankel engines have had me worried a little! Saying that, I have owned a Stag before which has a reputation for having an 'awkward' engine.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:00:39 GMT
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10 months later, about 2k miles and not a single problem - the rear tie rods were completely shagged and should not have passed an MOT previously with 1cm of play in the rear wheels off the ground. I've put new Tein coilovers on as the stock suspension was too high and ALSO completely shagged, and Driftworks rear suspension arms.
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