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Sept 23, 2015 19:02:43 GMT
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If you want a car that looks like it's from the 70's but drives like it's from the 00's (but is a manual, rwd, and not overly expensive) I fear your options are going to be extremely limited. Your best (only) option to get what you want is going to be to build it yourself. Find a car that you like the look of (should such a thing actually exist- I'm not entirely sure it does) and fit modern running gear and interior, gizmos etc. Failing that- compromise. After 4 pages of great suggestions, I fear this is the answer. Such a great opener for a thread as it's the sort of car that's right up my street, but all suggestions dismissed. My own answer to the same question was the already-suggested pimp-a-Scimitar. Have a look through Readers' Rides section to see what might possibly tick all your boxes.
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MrSpeedy
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www.vintagediesels.co.uk
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Sept 23, 2015 19:39:37 GMT
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I must admit I haven't read the entire thread as it started found downhill imo, but my initial thought was anything with an AMG badge on the rear end. My personal pick would be a 540SEC
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eternaloptimist
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Sept 23, 2015 19:54:53 GMT
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Subaru SVX. Bristol 610 or 412 if you like brutalism.
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XC70, VW split screen crew cab, Standard Ten
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Paul Y
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Sept 23, 2015 20:19:13 GMT
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Plus = WIN. I'm going to give you a second chance here and put this up again with a few details that will convince you that you are wrong and I, naturally, am all sorts of right. 1. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. 2. This is the ultimate in Luxury GT, I mean just look at it...Muscular plus, with the 455 goes like stink. 500lbft from the factory, I should say so. 3. No Manual. OK easy remedy Tremac T56 - 6 speed. Have to say I agree here, has to be a manual. Well done, bonus points. 4. 4 seats. Hold on...4 BUCKET seats. 5. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. Basically you have discounted the cars that meet your criteria so you will have to build one but then, that is why you're on Retro Rides...Right? P.
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drdick
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Sept 23, 2015 20:21:09 GMT
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Plus = WIN. I'm going to give you a second chance here and put this up again with a few details that will convince you that you are wrong and I, naturally, am all sorts of right. 1. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. 2. This is the ultimate in Luxury GT, I mean just look at it...Muscular plus, with the 455 goes like stink. 500lbft from the factory, I should say so. 3. No Manual. OK easy remedy Tremac T56 - 6 speed. Have to say I agree here, has to be a manual. Well done, bonus points. 4. 4 seats. Hold on...4 BUCKET seats. 5. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. Basically you have discounted the cars that meet your criteria so you will have to build one but then, that is why you're on Retro Rides...Right? P. Everything about this is making me do a sex face
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Paul Y
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Sept 23, 2015 20:29:27 GMT
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I'm going to give you a second chance here and put this up again with a few details that will convince you that you are wrong and I, naturally, am all sorts of right. 1. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. 2. This is the ultimate in Luxury GT, I mean just look at it...Muscular plus, with the 455 goes like stink. 500lbft from the factory, I should say so. 3. No Manual. OK easy remedy Tremac T56 - 6 speed. Have to say I agree here, has to be a manual. Well done, bonus points. 4. 4 seats. Hold on...4 BUCKET seats. 5. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. Basically you have discounted the cars that meet your criteria so you will have to build one but then, that is why you're on Retro Rides...Right? P. Everything about this is making me do a sex face Why do you think there was 7 hours between my original post and my repost....
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Sept 23, 2015 20:30:05 GMT
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What about the merc CLK's? I've got a 320 which has nice grunt, but the 430 is a step up? Ticks all your boxes (i think??)
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zx
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Sept 23, 2015 21:26:40 GMT
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I don't usually get involved in what car threads but this one has really grated me.
Firstly, why on earth would anyone want a manual GT car? A GT car is for eating up the miles between distant places in complete comfort. Some of them can do justice to a windy road but generally speaking the point of GT'ing is to drive quickly in a straight line. If you want to blast B roads, you don't want a fat GT car and you need to ditch the need for plush comfort.
Secondly, drawing up an extensive list to pin point your perfect car is like doing the same for the perfect woman, or the perfect house, or the perfect job. It's pointless. The reason we love things is because they're perfectly imperfect. All you will achieve by ticking every box is finding a car that's so 'right' it's boring. You've made sure it can't challenge you.
My perfect car on paper is a modern BMW 6 series. It ticks every box in my long list of demands. So much so that several years back I took out a stonking loan and bought one. A man who spends £500 tops on his toys suddenly blows 20 large. After 6 months I couldn't bare it anymore - it never once gave me that fizzle of excitement. I never once drove it for the fun of driving. The car did everything it needed to but was cold. I learnt that character in a car doesn't come from what boxes it ticks.
My 406 Coupe of 10 years is nothing like a 645. It's not fast, it's not that plush and to 'fix' certain unfixable things I've had to remove the bulbs telling me they're broken. If I give her hell, she wildly fishtail in an uncontrollable fit of under-over-everywhere-steer. But EVERYTIME, without fail, I go to get in it I think "curse word me that's a pretty car I drive". And whether I'm in it 5 hours or 15 hours, I don't get out feeling twice my age. Parts are reasonable, I can afford to run it and I'm a rare sight without drawing attention to myself. It's flawed but I love it.
Half the cars recommended on here I have or had. Supra's, 300ZX's, Jags, 8 series, old muscle cars etc. They're all brilliant suggestions.
You won't find your dream car making lists and dismissing everything that's close. You find it by going out, driving stuff and bidding blind on Ebay. You fall in love with a car because of the crazy adventures you do in it, the situations it gets you out of (or puts you in) and how it makes you feel behind the wheel.
Stop shooting down peoples suggestions because a box isn't ticked. Pick one and try it - you might like it.
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Sept 23, 2015 21:50:08 GMT
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^^This^^100%^^
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Sept 23, 2015 22:17:46 GMT
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I'm sure they export the Monaro to the Middle East so would be available as a lhd but more likely to be badged as a Chevy.
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Aaron
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Sept 23, 2015 22:41:53 GMT
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Firstly, why on earth would anyone want a manual GT car? Basically stated this earlier as it didn't make much sense to me neither.....especially as the op kept stating Auto's would give him so much more options :/
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Aaron
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Sept 23, 2015 22:45:02 GMT
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I don't usually get involved in what car threads but this one has really grated me. Firstly, why on earth would anyone want a manual GT car? A GT car is for eating up the miles between distant places in complete comfort. Some of them can do justice to a windy road but generally speaking the point of GT'ing is to drive quickly in a straight line. If you want to blast B roads, you don't want a fat GT car and you need to ditch the need for plush comfort. Secondly, drawing up an extensive list to pin point your perfect car is like doing the same for the perfect woman, or the perfect house, or the perfect job. It's pointless. The reason we love things is because they're perfectly imperfect. All you will achieve by ticking every box is finding a car that's so 'right' it's boring. You've made sure it can't challenge you. My perfect car on paper is a modern BMW 6 series. It ticks every box in my long list of demands. So much so that several years back I took out a stonking loan and bought one. A man who spends £500 tops on his toys suddenly blows 20 large. After 6 months I couldn't bare it anymore - it never once gave me that fizzle of excitement. I never once drove it for the fun of driving. The car did everything it needed to but was cold. I learnt that character in a car doesn't come from what boxes it ticks. My 406 Coupe of 10 years is nothing like a 645. It's not fast, it's not that plush and to 'fix' certain unfixable things I've had to remove the bulbs telling me they're broken. If I give her hell, she wildly fishtail in an uncontrollable fit of under-over-everywhere-steer. But EVERYTIME, without fail, I go to get in it I think "curse word me that's a pretty car I drive". And whether I'm in it 5 hours or 15 hours, I don't get out feeling twice my age. Parts are reasonable, I can afford to run it and I'm a rare sight without drawing attention to myself. It's flawed but I love it. Half the cars recommended on here I have or had. Supra's, 300ZX's, Jags, 8 series, old muscle cars etc. They're all brilliant suggestions. You won't find your dream car making lists and dismissing everything that's close. You find it by going out, driving stuff and bidding blind on Ebay. You fall in love with a car because of the crazy adventures you do in it, the situations it gets you out of (or puts you in) and how it makes you feel behind the wheel. Stop shooting down peoples suggestions because a box isn't ticked. Pick one and try it - you might like it. Great post....pretty much nailed it.....thread may as well be closed after that haha
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1992 Eunos Roadster S-Special 2007 BMW Z4 Coupe SI
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Sept 23, 2015 23:51:11 GMT
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I'm going to give you a second chance here and put this up again with a few details that will convince you that you are wrong and I, naturally, am all sorts of right. 1. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. 2. This is the ultimate in Luxury GT, I mean just look at it...Muscular plus, with the 455 goes like stink. 500lbft from the factory, I should say so. 3. No Manual. OK easy remedy Tremac T56 - 6 speed. Have to say I agree here, has to be a manual. Well done, bonus points. 4. 4 seats. Hold on...4 BUCKET seats. 5. Its a Boat Tail Riviera. Basically you have discounted the cars that meet your criteria so you will have to build one but then, that is why you're on Retro Rides...Right? P. Everything about this is making me do a sex face this all day long
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Sept 24, 2015 0:36:06 GMT
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From the start I wanted to suggest the jaguar xk8 or a lexis soarer, but they've been seen already.
I don't think it's fair the sheer amount of criticism that's been levelled out for knowing what he wants to find, and there is plenty of scope to find something, the catchment area is quite wide, he hasnt ruled out all Japanese cars or such.
So with that in mind, I can think of a couple of curve balls...
Gen 3 chevy Camaro. Not quite a sports car, 2+2, V8, manuals, cheap.
Given that you don't like the 8 series on account of the pop ups... A late bmw e24 6 series? Definitely a gt, plenty manuals, 6 cyl, modern enough to use daily.
I want to suggest the alfa gtv as well but it's fwd. And too small. There are loads of other fiat's you should look at too.
Did the ford probe ever come as a manual?
The mazda mx6 might be worth a look? Both fwd though, I wouldn't either.
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Sept 24, 2015 7:10:31 GMT
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OK. Not a fan of multi quote. But this post just calls for it. I don't usually get involved in what car threads but this one has really grated me. Firstly, why on earth would anyone want a manual GT car? Because I want. If that is not enough reason for you and you think you can tell me what I want, then sorry, I can't help you. I had one automatic car in my life. Hated every second of it and after 6 months and much cursing while driving I got rid of it. I'm a car enthusiast. I like to drive for real. With an auto car you are not driving, you are just steering. Never understood why people buy sports cars and other performance cars with an auto. I understand the GT point though and it makes sense what you are saying. But MY car has to be manual. End of story. If it would not be qualified as a GT because it has a manual, so...be...it! A GT car is for eating up the miles between distant places in complete comfort. Some of them can do justice to a windy road but generally speaking the point of GT'ing is to drive quickly in a straight line. If you want to blast B roads, you don't want a fat GT car and you need to ditch the need for plush comfort. Yeah, blahblahblahblahblahblahblah. Secondly, drawing up an extensive list to pin point your perfect car is like doing the same for the perfect woman, or the perfect house, or the perfect job. It's pointless. The reason we love things is because they're perfectly imperfect. All you will achieve by ticking every box is finding a car that's so 'right' it's boring. You've made sure it can't challenge you. OK. I see where we totally disagree then. If you are the type of guy who needs a woman to mistreat you and cheat on you to make it interesting and challenge you, yes, we are very different!(yes, lots of assumptions on my part. But since you did the same about me, I thought it was fair game). I have the perfect wife and wouldn't have it any other way. My perfect car on paper is a modern BMW 6 series. It ticks every box in my long list of demands. So much so that several years back I took out a stonking loan and bought one. A man who spends £500 tops on his toys suddenly blows 20 large. After 6 months I couldn't bare it anymore - it never once gave me that fizzle of excitement. I never once drove it for the fun of driving. The car did everything it needed to but was cold. I learnt that character in a car doesn't come from what boxes it ticks. My 406 Coupe of 10 years is nothing like a 645. It's not fast, it's not that plush and to 'fix' certain unfixable things I've had to remove the bulbs telling me they're broken. If I give her hell, she wildly fishtail in an uncontrollable fit of under-over-everywhere-steer. But EVERYTIME, without fail, I go to get in it I think "curse word me that's a pretty car I drive". And whether I'm in it 5 hours or 15 hours, I don't get out feeling twice my age. Parts are reasonable, I can afford to run it and I'm a rare sight without drawing attention to myself. It's flawed but I love it. Yeah, blahblahblahblahblahblahblah. Half the cars recommended on here I have or had. Supra's, 300ZX's, Jags, 8 series, old muscle cars etc. They're all brilliant suggestions. Yes they are and I never for a second said they were bad cars. But they are not what I want. Why can't you accept that? Why do you feel the right to question what I want? Are you going to pay for it and give it to me as a gift? If not, then you know what to do... You won't find your dream car making lists and dismissing everything that's close. You find it by going out, driving stuff and bidding blind on Ebay. Solid business advice. You fall in love with a car because of the crazy adventures you do in it, the situations it gets you out of (or puts you in) and how it makes you feel behind the wheel. Exactly. And I have driven all sorts of automatic cars. From Corvettes, to XK8s to the gimmicky Porsches with the behind the wheel semi-auto pallets. NONE of them made me feel excited behind the wheel. None of them could shake off the feeling and the thought I had during the whole time I was driving the,. which was, this is nice, quite fun. But wish it was a manual. Stop shooting down peoples suggestions because a box isn't ticked. Pick one and try it - you might like it. If I can't "shoot down" anybody's suggestion, am I supposed to buy all the cars suggested then, just so I don't hurt any sensitive egos? Because you know, even if I had taken one of the suggestions, I only really need one car, so I would have to "shoot down" the rest. When somebody suggests something that I like I will for sure take it. Look! I'm a level headed person. I don't like to be rude and I apologize to others in advance for this post. But you come across like one of those...uh...people who likes to argue on the internet and thinks he is always right and thinks you can tell people what to do with their lives. It's my money, my car, I can choose whatever I want. If you don't like the thread, stay out. Again really sorry others have to read this. But this guy's post just irked me.
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Sept 24, 2015 7:22:32 GMT
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From the start I wanted to suggest the jaguar xk8 or a lexis soarer, but they've been seen already. I don't think it's fair the sheer amount of criticism that's been levelled out for knowing what he wants to find, Thank you. It amusing how some seem to be taking this personally or something and getting hurt if they suggestions are not taken. and there is plenty of scope to find something, the catchment area is quite wide, he hasnt ruled out all Japanese cars or such. So with that in mind, I can think of a couple of curve balls... Gen 3 chevy Camaro. Not quite a sports car, 2+2, V8, manuals, cheap. Given that you don't like the 8 series on account of the pop ups... A late bmw e24 6 series? Definitely a gt, plenty manuals, 6 cyl, modern enough to use daily. I want to suggest the alfa gtv as well but it's fwd. And too small. There are loads of other fiat's you should look at too. Did the ford probe ever come as a manual? The mazda mx6 might be worth a look? Both fwd though, I wouldn't either. The Americans, or Camaro, Firebird and Mustang check a lot of the boxes. Where they fail is at luxury, specially a Gen 3 or Gen 4 F-body. They have horrible interiors. Gen 3 F-body is also very hard to find manual V8s. But I have already told myself, if I can't find what I want, before I go auto I would buy a Mustang, Camaro or Firebird, in that order, if I can find a manual V8. I have had a Camaro before though. Mixed feelings in many ways. Not a fan of the Probe for several reasons, many included in this thread. MX6 not my cup of tea. But you are absolutely right I have not discarded Japanese cars in general. I actually quite like them because most of them are reliable. Something you can't really say about Jaguars. But the problem is unless it's a sports car, most of them are not RWD. Exceptions are the Soarer and the latest 240SX. Soarer is on my radar if nothing better pops up and if I can find a manual. 240SX is too spartan. Are there other Japanese RWD besides the sports cars like RX7,RX8, Z cars, 3000GT and Supra, S2000, NSX etc? Any personal luxury coupes RWD I'm overlooking? The Supra MKIII is a very nice car. I say it's the closest to a GT from all of them. Problem is again a bit spartan in the inside, but not so bad, and finding one which has not been riced or beaten to an inch of it's life end. And they are very overpriced for their age.
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adam73bgt
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Sept 24, 2015 7:26:57 GMT
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Some of your responses come across as a bit short and rude to be honest..
I think the car you are looking for doesn't exist. You're going to have to buy something else and modify it to your tastes.
The 3000GT, Supra and 300ZX are more GT's but you've already discounted them
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thebaron
Europe
Over the river, heading out of town
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Sept 24, 2015 7:33:40 GMT
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Sept 24, 2015 7:34:26 GMT
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Some of your responses come across as a bit short and rude to be honest.. I think the car you are looking for doesn't exist. You're going to have to buy something else and modify it to your tastes. The 3000GT, Supra and 300ZX are more GT's but you've already discounted them Rude in what sense? You mean because somebody may suggest a BMW 8 and I just say, not my cup of tea, instead of going for something more like, "Hi, thanks for your wonderful suggestion. Not really bad but doesn't fit my criteria. But thanks for playing."?
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Sept 24, 2015 7:45:55 GMT
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Interesting. Very rare car in the continent for sure. But the thing is, it is not a luxury car inside and going for it would open the doors to considering Mustangs, Firebirds, Camaros etc. With that kind of money you can buy a much better Mustang and even a gen 4 Camaro or Trans Am which would cost less and give you more bang for the buck. All together the Monaro is just a bit meh. The only thing I like about it is that it's Australian. I was always a fan of the Australian cars. And again, it's too new or new-ish looking. I would put it bellow the Soarer on my list of options to go for if I don't find what I want. If it was the same price, then it would be above. But all things considered...
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