ivangt6
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Sept 7, 2016 19:49:50 GMT
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thinking of getting an electric polisher thingy I've got a rotary from dodo juice - but I've had a little training on using it - Orbitals are less aggressive but take longer to do any work In fact I think I shared the detailing day I did a while back on here - was well worth attending - I'll see if I can find the thread found it = click meCheers. Really useful stuff, don't really know what I'm doing with one but there's plenty of "scrap" panels on the gt6. The bonnet being the main one. I'm not going to get one right now as there's still a lot of welding to be getting on with but think I'll get a rotary and see how much I can trash the bonnet
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1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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glenanderson
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I've always fancied a Mk2 GT6, and they were on my "list" so to speak for a long time along with an Amazon and a P4 Rover. I ended up with a P4 Rover in the end. Good to see you getting to grips with undoing the previous bodges - some people shouldn't be let near a set of spanners!
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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ivangt6
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Sept 24, 2016 13:42:28 GMT
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Would appreciate your input on this one This is the LH rear wing It has previously been badly repaired on the lower edges I've cut out the front and have a new panel to go on, but its not the best reproduction and would need a bit of work to keep the detail where the wheel arch lip blends in to the sill The rear lower edge is a mess and the previous owner cut the lip off the panel behind the lower edge of this repair panel so its only held on there by filler. so obviously that needs replacing and repairing The panel is covered in dents and peppered with dots of rust Also the wheel arch lip will need cutting out and the inner lip repairing or rust treating. This panel is repairable though. Just needs a lot of work Do you think I should repair it or replace it, bearing in mind the new panel won't come with the hole for the fuel cap? £32 for the other repair panel I need or £200 for the whole wing Aside from this, I'm taking my time prepping the rest of the car for paint and have painted the rear light panel black. Cheers
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Last Edit: Sept 24, 2016 13:42:47 GMT by ivangt6
1979 Mini 1000 1972 Triumph GT6 2007 VW Golf GTi 1979 VW T25 Leisuredrive 1988 Range Rover Vogue SE
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Sept 24, 2016 13:55:34 GMT
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If you have the money get the new wing if i was you . Its going to need a lot of work and it would be easier and better finish in view if you put a new one on , got fid of those nasty grinding marks , avoided rust coming back etc.
Wont be too hard to chop out that petrol filler and put it in . A multitool is gret for doing stuff like that , you know the tools you can get which look like a angle grinder but just oscillate , take outs maybe .15 of a mm so you have next to nothing gap when welding back together . Much neater finish.
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ivangt6
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Sept 24, 2016 19:50:40 GMT
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Decision made Glad I did. It makes it a lot easier to repair the inner wing if I don't replace that too. And the wing looked like this inside Bare metal in places with a lot of surface rust Uncovered some more sh!te welding This simply pulled off Inner arch lip Anyone have any idea what this is? Its connected to the wiring for the lights and looks original. Whatever it is it would be completely inaccessible if it broke. Not sure if I'm going to replace the inner wing or repair it. If I replace the inner wing then I may as well replace the wheel arch tub. I've already done quite a lot of repair to the front end of the inner wing where it attaches to the inner sill and forms the front of the rear wheel arch so it would be a shame to cut all that out. This repair panel for the rear of the inner wing would get rid of a lot of the rot. At £33 it seems worth it Having had a look it seems the inner wing isn't available as a whole so looks like I'll be repairing whats there I need to have a look outer arch tub to see if its recoverable. Ideally I'd like to cut out and replace as I reckon there's some hidden rot in the seam between inner and outer tub. £120 It's always worse than you expect isn't it I only intended to fit my overdrive box....
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glenanderson
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Sept 24, 2016 21:18:04 GMT
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I think you're making/have made the right decision. Fitting the fuel filler to a new panel is going to be easier and neater than repairing the old. And yes, I'd cut out and replace as much of the inner wing as is available.
I've commented before with other marques, and yet again am staggered to see just how little corrosion protection was applied at the factory in cars of this era. No wonder they all rusted badly. To be honest, it's fairly amazing that as many have survived as they have.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Sept 24, 2016 22:42:00 GMT
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That's the dimmer relay for the rear lights. Legacy of some loony in the early 70's who thought that rear lights should be dimmed at night so you didn't tire the eyes of the following drivers. Means you are definitely a major looser in the current rear lights brightness arms race. Very easy to link out (I forget exactly how at this point) and I strongly suggest you do.
Nick
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1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend) 1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing) 1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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ivangt6
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Sept 25, 2016 19:46:24 GMT
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I think you're making/have made the right decision. Fitting the fuel filler to a new panel is going to be easier and neater than repairing the old. And yes, I'd cut out and replace as much of the inner wing as is available. I've commented before with other marques, and yet again am staggered to see just how little corrosion protection was applied at the factory in cars of this era. No wonder they all rusted badly. To be honest, it's fairly amazing that as many have survived as they have. There's bits that have no paint on at all. To be fair though I think this car pre dates major use of road salt. They'd have been using grit
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ivangt6
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Sept 25, 2016 19:52:07 GMT
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That's the dimmer relay for the rear lights. Legacy of some loony in the early 70's who thought that rear lights should be dimmed at night so you didn't tire the eyes of the following drivers. Means you are definitely a major looser in the current rear lights brightness arms race. Very easy to link out (I forget exactly how at this point) and I strongly suggest you do. Nick Cheers. Seems like a nicety that's been abandoned on modern cars. constantly blinded driving at night more recently. How some of these cars headlights are legal is beyond me. Think I'll disconnect the wiring from it but leave it in place. It must just be a case of connecting wires together. I need to strip that loom anyway to find a break in the original fuel sender wire and get rid of the blue one that bypasses it and also I sliced through a wire cutting the wing off :/
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ivangt6
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Sept 25, 2016 19:54:40 GMT
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I've spent the afternoon stripping what I can only describe as tar from the boot. some sort of protective coating the PO has slapped everywhere. Very sticky and not nice to have in the boot. I've used a hot air gun to remove the top layers of the stuff but its taking ages to get the rest off with thinners and a tooth brush. Any advice?
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Sept 26, 2016 10:17:10 GMT
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Iirc someone used liquid nitrogen to freeze it, then cracked it up with a hammer.
Certainly sounds satisfying!
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Sept 26, 2016 10:21:29 GMT
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I think you can do something similar with the freeze spray plumbers use? Then get a hammer and chisel on it? If not, it's a scraper job - depends on the "tar" used.
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Sept 27, 2016 12:48:37 GMT
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Kerosene? Softens/dissolves & doesn't evaporate like thinners. Messy. Though you can brush it on & let it soak in to scrape off softened layers later. Clean up with more on a rag after.
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Sept 27, 2016 14:17:44 GMT
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Sept 28, 2016 9:01:29 GMT
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Try autosparks for a new wiring loom they should be able to taylor one for your specific needs ie decent fuse box with more that 4 fuses, headlamp relays ect and it will fit and work properly. Dan
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Sept 28, 2016 20:21:48 GMT
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New looms are ~ £300 for standard, more with extras. Or a nearly 3 x what I thought they were. Our Spitty needs one as some has cut the fusebox wiring off (may the fleas of a thousand camels infest his armpits). Turns out Spitty has one of those daft dimmer relays too, so I have been reminded how to disable them. The quick way is to just disconnect the red wires (a linked pair). These are part of the sidelight circuit and "tell" the relay that the lights are on. It then connects a resistor in series with the brake lights and rear indicator lights so they don't dazzle to following drivers. Wasn't a good idea then as the lights were fairly pathetic anyway. Better idea on moderns with over-bright lights though. Headlight relays are a very good idea but you certainly don't need to buy a new upgraded loom to achieve that. Nick
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ivangt6
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Sept 28, 2016 20:37:08 GMT
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Cheers for the comments guys. I think poor weather may stop play this weekend by the look of it. Wiring wise, I've already rewired the front loom to use relays for dipped and main beams. The rear loom looks pretty good. theres a break somewhere for the fuel sender and I've sliced a brake light wire. just a case of unwrapping it, sorting the faults and wrapping it again. vitesseefi, cheers for that. just disconnecting that seems pretty simple. I like simple. coz i is simple
I might see if I can take off some more of the tar from the boot this weekend if nothing else. not got a supply of liquid nitrogen unfortunately although I can get waste avtur from work which does the business.
just mulling over different options. Its definitely worth shopping around for bits on these things. that wheel arch panel i need is £120 at rimmer bros but £77 from wins international. That is some mark up they have at Rimmers!
In a bid to have something to do while its raining, I'm also looking at recovering my steering wheel. I have an old mountney I can use in the meantime. I have no idea what the steering wheel in it is. It's a 4 spoke which is unusual and as far as I'm aware it has no logo on it. have never had it off though. Looks like I just need a strip of leather and a needle. How hard can it be?
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Last Edit: Sept 28, 2016 20:40:39 GMT by ivangt6
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Sept 28, 2016 20:39:56 GMT
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I have almost finished doing something similar on our minor, add headlamp, ignition and horn relays, convert to alternator, replace few dodgy wires and add a fuel pump inertia switch and 2 fuse boxes, total cost around £70.
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ivangt6
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Sept 28, 2016 20:45:53 GMT
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I have almost finished doing something similar on our minor, add headlamp, ignition and horn relays, convert to alternator, replace few dodgy wires and add a fuel pump inertia switch and 2 fuse boxes, total cost around £70. It makes sense to do it. I've only done the headlight relays on mine as it was the only thing causing an issue. It used to make the headlight switch hot and then after 20 mins driving at night, the headlights would go off. relays and a new switch sorted that and allowed me to upgrade to halogen headlights without putting too much strain on things. It's all well and good keeping things original and standard but being able to use your car without worry is more fun
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Sept 30, 2016 6:37:32 GMT
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