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Feb 16, 2015 17:39:29 GMT
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How do iv got a freelander 2.0 8v diesel.. had a the head gasket blow.been machined fitted to car lovely... went to install the camshaft..manual says place in camshaft orifice.then tighten retaining plate as described in manual in specific pattern. ok now my problem is the cam won't sit properly..take the lifters out cam sits in its place fine..put it in the carrier sits fine.but the carrier on it's own on the head sits fine.. The cam will rock side to side when placed on the lifters almost like it's bent.. tried bolting the carrier on with camshaft but won't touch the head at one end. I'm not puzzled or am I being thick and missing something.any thoughts ?
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omega
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Feb 16, 2015 17:40:44 GMT
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cams twisted?
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Feb 16, 2015 17:44:53 GMT
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Is it pressing the lifters down properly?
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MrSpeedy
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Feb 16, 2015 17:54:31 GMT
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The cam needs to push some of the lifters down to open the valves as it's being tightened EVENLY into place on the head.
Make sure it's only the lifters holding the cam up though.
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Feb 16, 2015 17:54:59 GMT
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U get so far with the carrier and theres a 2 cm ish gap at the pully end.but to tight to turn... only thing I can think of is the cam has a bow in it .
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Feb 16, 2015 17:57:57 GMT
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The cam needs to push some of the lifters down to open the valves as it's being tightened EVENLY into place on the head. Make sure it's only the lifters holding the cam up though. Hi Do I have to push down on the cam at the same time as doing up the carrier. or should it just slot into place as the carrier is done up
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Feb 16, 2015 18:20:04 GMT
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Should just slot into place as the cam is tightened down, Just make sure you keep an eye on it and watch its not binding anywhere. If it is, stop and start again.
Better safe than sorry, especially with a freshly skimmed head!
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Too many projects, not enough time.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:23:47 GMT
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Hi, ISTR but can't be sure, but don't you turn the crank slightly so the pistons are part way down the bore, bolt the cam and carrier down as described (it will be opening some valves so there will be some resistance), then time the cam and then bring the crank back to its timing mark?
Colin
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Feb 16, 2015 18:28:15 GMT
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Maybe that's what it is the pistons might not be far enough down will try it tommoz cheers
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Feb 17, 2015 18:44:16 GMT
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Right an update I got the cam on eventually bit when it's touqed to spec the cam will not turn.. slacken the bolts of a tad and it will turn but is tight... anyway timed up the cam..went to time the crank via the hole by the crank sensor.. Went to turn the crank over by hand and it locks about half way round..Some things hitting..my guess valves.glow.plugs. ??
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MrSpeedy
East Midlands
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Feb 17, 2015 18:54:43 GMT
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You'll be hitting the open valves with the pistons then!
You should set the crank to it's timing position first, and then fit the cam approximately in it's position with final timing adjustment when you fit the chain/belt.
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Feb 17, 2015 18:59:51 GMT
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If the head was warped, skimming it will only flatten one side, the area the cam sits on could still be bent. (and it won't straigten out when you bolt the head down, like it would have before it was skimmed) I've seen cams snap before on cars that have had warped heads skimmed and then been driven around a bit.
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Feb 17, 2015 19:23:46 GMT
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You'll be hitting the open valves with the pistons then! You should set the crank to it's timing position first, and then fit the cam approximately in it's position with final timing adjustment when you fit the chain/belt. Cheers mate
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Feb 18, 2015 19:39:20 GMT
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first things first... which diesel is it? Is it the TD4, or the earlier Rover L series?
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Feb 18, 2015 23:15:32 GMT
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first things first... which diesel is it? Is it the TD4, or the earlier Rover L series? It's the l series 2.0 8v Iv sorted it now timed the crank up by locking the flywheel. timed the cam put the belt on turns over nicley
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Feb 19, 2015 10:56:16 GMT
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good man Did you fit new idler and tensioner bearings whilst you were there? False economy if not I'm afraid
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Feb 19, 2015 19:54:23 GMT
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good man Did you fit new idler and tensioner bearings whilst you were there? False economy if not I'm afraid Hi yes did all the idlers... so timed the pump up today.bled the fuel system... now the poxy thing start just cranks and cranks but won't fire...:@ starting to get peed off with it now
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Feb 19, 2015 21:52:11 GMT
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what car is it in? The early SD and SDi pumps are pretty forgiving, but the later VP30 pumps are very fussy about being 100% bled.
Crack off one of the injector unions and crank until you're getting a healthy squirt of diesel, not just a dribble
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Feb 19, 2015 23:54:18 GMT
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what car is it in? The early SD and SDi pumps are pretty forgiving, but the later VP30 pumps are very fussy about being 100% bled. Crack off one of the injector unions and crank until you're getting a healthy squirt of diesel, not just a dribble It's In a freelander
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hkr91
South East
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Tow start the beast!
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