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Hi All, I've been hankering after a large comfortable daily car lately and been looking at Volvos, BMW estates etc. I'm hopefully viewing a 2002 Volvo V70 T5 SE auto this weekend. 250bhp 2.3L petrol turbo. Could anyone give any pointers of what to look for specifically on this model? It's on 125k miles, cam belt was done around 100k, oil changed every 5 - 10k max, everything apparently works. New bottom arms recently fitted on the front, auto gearbox flushed and oil changed. The owner is an ex Volvo master technician so has maintained it himself with genuine parts and sounds reassuringly fastidious on the the phone so hopefully it's a good one. I've never owned a petrol turbo car before so tips on potential faults there would be handy too. I assume it's a standard auto as he didn't say it was geartronic / semi-auto. Any info much appreciated. Cheers! Stu
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Last Edit: Feb 4, 2015 16:06:50 GMT by Stu
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m30rmf
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I have had a 2003 v70 albeit the d5 version for the last 4 years, if its had new wishbones make sure there genuine volvo jobbies or even better powerflex bushed genuine ones, i have had meyle hd ones fitted previously which lasted just over 12 months before the bushes tore.....head over to volvoforum and t5d5 , wealth of knowledge on there and has saved me ALOT of money during my ownership..... with a few choice mods these can be made to upset alot of smaller 'sporty' cars in the twisties....lol
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Rust isn't a major problem on these, but check along the sides of the roof rails anyway. Mechanically, the engines are pretty much bullet-proof, but check for oil leaks from the cam cover and oil cap... Regular oil changes are important, but use good quality parts. If you decide to modify and your car is an auto, don't take the engine over 300bhp. The autobox is the weak link, anything over this will kill it as the torque involved is too much for it. Mid 30's mpg on a run, high teens/low 20's round town. Get friendly with your local tyre centre, you'll go through fronts for fun.... Fantastic cars, I've got two 850 T5's, one saloon one estate, love driving 'em. You won't regret it!! Good luck!!
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Stu
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Thanks for the replies, some great info - much appreciated! Any more tips more than welcome.
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as matey above says gearboxes are your main gripe, they need to be running and driving for at least half an hour in nasty (uphill, downhill,urban) conditions to see if anything flares up. a short blast round the block wont show any issues up.
fuel economy in my experience is pretty terrible, unless its on the motorway, if u get low 20's be happy with it
but positives, youl scare most hot hatch drivers, and they're megga cumfy on long trips, engines are bulletproof and youl become good friends with "andy" who works at your local shell garage.
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Stu
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Viewing today so fingers crossed it's a good 'un and I can get to know my local petrol station staff again. Not seen them much since I stopped driving old BMWs daily...:-)
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Last Edit: Feb 7, 2015 9:00:15 GMT by Stu
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Stu
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Bought it. Cheers all!
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Bought it. Cheers all! Congrats mate, awesome daily these. Hope you enjoy every minute!!
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These are great cars that I feel everyone should drive/own at some point. I got a pretty mint Haynes if your interested?
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m30rmf
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Get the front end powerflex bushed....;-)
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Or better still SuperFlexed (if they do the bushes). Powerflex bushes seem to either last or not ; Superflex seem to give comfort as well as longevity. If you don't fancy noise inside the cabin only go with a genuine Volvo mount ; Powerflex ones will last but they induce cabin noise in this application ; pattern ones do not last at all. A lovely buy indeed. My sister (and recently my dad) have MkIV Mondeo 2.5Ts with a similar engine. When I have driven then I see around low to mid twenties around town, low 30s on a high speed cruise with more like 35MPG if sticking below 75MPH. They are a lovely engine. With the autos there are some preventative upgrades you can do (like changing the gearbox cover and oil to Volvo's latest spec from the dealer) for reducing the flaring or eliminating it . Prevention is always better than cure after all.
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With the autos there are some preventative upgrades you can do (like changing the gearbox cover and oil to Volvo's latest spec from the dealer) for reducing the flaring or eliminating it . Prevention is always better than cure after all. ^^^This is a good piece of advice... Done this on both my 850's, made a massive difference. Chas is also right about the top engine mount... If you're only using the car for everyday and family duties I would always recommend the proper Volvo item, they will generally last for 100k in general use......
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Stu
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Feb 11, 2015 10:45:47 GMT
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Bought it. Cheers all! Congrats mate, awesome daily these. Hope you enjoy every minute!! Cheers! I'll post a pic in a minute. Started using it daily as of this week, comfort and convenience levels are awesome Get the front end powerflex bushed....;-) Do you mean the suspension or engine mounts? Or better still SuperFlexed (if they do the bushes). Powerflex bushes seem to either last or not ; Superflex seem to give comfort as well as longevity. If you don't fancy noise inside the cabin only go with a genuine Volvo mount ; Powerflex ones will last but they induce cabin noise in this application ; pattern ones do not last at all. A lovely buy indeed. My sister (and recently my dad) have MkIV Mondeo 2.5Ts with a similar engine. When I have driven then I see around low to mid twenties around town, low 30s on a high speed cruise with more like 35MPG if sticking below 75MPH. They are a lovely engine. With the autos there are some preventative upgrades you can do (like changing the gearbox cover and oil to Volvo's latest spec from the dealer) for reducing the flaring or eliminating it . Prevention is always better than cure after all. Yes, I was surprised to see high 30s mpg on the cruise home with it. Around town / commuting is bound to be lower, probably doesn't help that I have the posh stereo and heated seats on all the time... The guy I bought it from was an ex Volvo technician and told me he'd fully flushed and replaced the gearbox oil recently. He said it holds about 7L but he made sure to fully flush 15L through to guarantee the torque convertor was flushed? It's very smooth in operation I must say, you hardly feel any gear changes. What does the gearbox cover change do? Not sure he'd have done that as he didn't mention it? ^^^This is a good piece of advice... Done this on both my 850's, made a massive difference. Chas is also right about the top engine mount... If you're only using the car for everyday and family duties I would always recommend the proper Volvo item, they will generally last for 100k in general use...... The previous owner told me he'd recently changed the top engine mount (attached to a strut brace type bit across the front suspension towers if that's the one you mean?) with a genuine part and revised / improved bracket? Hopefully that'll be fine as I imagine the torque of the engine puts a fair amount of stress on those things. Only faults / points for attention so far are as follows: 1. Drivers seat stitching coming apart on the bolster, needs a small repair. I knew about this before viewing though. 2. Fuel filler flap locks, but hinge is weak / not very positive and it flaps around when you reverse! 3. Tyres aren't the best, will change them for a full new set soon. Any recommendations? 225/45/17s I think. Cheers, all! Stu
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Last Edit: Feb 11, 2015 10:46:46 GMT by Stu
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Feb 11, 2015 10:47:36 GMT
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Here's a pic:
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Feb 11, 2015 16:32:40 GMT
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she looks a bonny motor, and the updated servo cover (b4) is a slightly different shape design and is 1 piece, the factory original one has a washer and rubber which overtimes breaks down and causes slight flare between 2-3gear, looks simple to do, but in first hand experience is an absolute pain in the arsed to do as the servo cover needs alot of pressure to get the circlip back in place, get it wrong, you get a nice face full of gearbox oil.....
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Feb 11, 2015 19:44:26 GMT
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Looks very nice, i would powerflex the wishbone bushes and also the engine stabiliser bar (the strut brace looking thingy ), stiffens the front end up nicely.....although mine is the d5 so advised against doing engine mounts because of vibration from diesel lump, I'm led to believe the petrols can be powerflexed alot more before any detrimental effect happens!!!!! Turns them into a very 'chuckable' car considering there size. ...
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Feb 11, 2015 23:23:38 GMT
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On the engine stabiliser the two people I have known to fit them (one who now runs a 400+BHP Altezza) found that the Powerflex stabiliser bush added more noise than necessary into the cabin. If this top bush has been changed I would leave this mount well alone. Jordan has explained what the cover does . Some will disagree with me here but I would go with Michelin tyres in that size. Yes they are expensive but you will be lucky to see 5k out of cheaper tyres (more like 10k from the Michelins, maybe more if you are lucky). In PS3s they are around £100-120 each fitted).
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Cheers, All - really appreciate the advice and info. Getting on well with the car and really enjoying it for comfortable commuting.
One little niggle I've noticed is that the fuel flap isn't very positive in action, as mentioned above. Now I've noticed it swings open when you reverse! It locks fine with central locking so seems like a weak spring on the hinge part. Stays shut when going forwards ok so not major.
Aside from that and one headlight wiper that doesn't even try to move, everything seems to work great :-)
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Last Edit: Feb 15, 2015 16:10:20 GMT by Stu
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Feb 15, 2015 22:05:02 GMT
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On the engine stabiliser the two people I have known to fit them (one who now runs a 400+BHP Altezza) found that the Powerflex stabiliser bush added more noise than necessary into the cabin. If this top bush has been changed I would leave this mount well alone. I think your talking about the top engine mount which tbf does transmit noise and vibration into cabin, I'm talking about the powerflex stabiliser tensioning bushes, they go on where tge stabiliser bar attaches to the struts either side........
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Feb 18, 2015 12:23:58 GMT
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Some will disagree with me here but I would go with Michelin tyres in that size. Yes they are expensive but you will be lucky to see 5k out of cheaper tyres (more like 10k from the Michelins, maybe more if you are lucky). In PS3s they are around £100-120 each fitted). Thanks for the recommendation, I bit a bit of online research and most Volvo forums seem to agree so got a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 3s on the way. £395 for a full set fitted by 'Tyres on the Drive' who I've used before
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