topi
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May 24, 2007 21:59:01 GMT
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I agree that people shouldn't drift in traffic. If I saw a car I didn't know, coming towards me sideways, I'd be angry. I like my cars, and don't want them crashed up by some dick who thinks he can drive.
Obviously there's situations where it's ok. If I go out with people I know, and know how they can drive etc, fair enough.
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slater
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May 24, 2007 22:01:17 GMT
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I have 2 oppinions but can decide which i like better
Oppinion 1. Drifting is for posers
If you think your cool or somehow special because you can make your car go sideways your a Charlie Uniform November Tango in my book. Are you relly having a competition over how well you can drift or how well you can make other Charlie Uniform November Tangos think you are cool?
Oppinion 2. Its fun going sideways so il forgive you
Do i relly care what people want to do in there spare time anyway? not relly! i can see where the attraction in drifiting is but competitions are still a bit wtf?. I guess everything has to be competitive in some way then? Lets compete over how much fun we can have in our cars? dosnt quite fit in my head.
"Look at me look at me!"
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May 24, 2007 22:02:32 GMT
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Interesting thread, as one of the UK's most serious & professional drivers, I instruct, organise events & commercially provide demos to major events. I can see where the general opinion lies, I think its often where you first saw it tbh. Some of the demo events I've seen at venues like the pod are more akin to rolling burnouts than proper car control stuff, though not always the case,however take it to a proper circuit, at race speeds with a seriously fast car & its a different ballgame. A couple of weeks back I took the owner of a circuit in Sweden out around his track, he'd obviously driven it thousands of times around it in fast cars, I'm joking he came came back shaking he was awe struck at what we were up to. If you've not seen it at race speeds on a race circuit, with proper 500bhp drift cars then I'd suggest go & see it for real. It sure is damn scary fun from the drivers seat, try it at 130mph & its a completely different ball game to circly skids on a patch of tarmac. This pic always me make think, Rockingham, just two of us playing on a demo day, entry initiation point was 170m before the chicane (thats before the brake board) at 125mph up against the wall.
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B-8-D
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May 24, 2007 22:13:46 GMT
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i don't care what its called and maybe it isnt racing?! all i know is that as soon as i expeienced my first rwd car there was no turning back and i do.."sideways" every single day since. not on a public road !!
i love it its childish..... its stupid......... its fun...... it looks cool (IMO)
and i don't care what people think... plus i refuse to get a "drift car" aka a silvia/ ae86/ skyline etc..... (only because its expected)
i like to use volvos...... bedford pickups........ minibusses.......... limos....... and anything rwd. fekin weld that diff sonny...! si
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B-8-D
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May 24, 2007 22:30:52 GMT
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I have 2 oppinions but can decide which I like better Oppinion 1. Drifting is for posers If you think your cool or somehow special because you can make your car go sideways your a Charlie Uniform November Tango in my book. Are you relly having a competition over how well you can drift or how well you can make other Charlie Uniform November Tangos think you are cool? Oppinion 2. Its fun going sideways so il forgive you Do I relly care what people want to do in there spare time anyway? not relly! I can see where the attraction in drifiting is but competitions are still a bit wtf?. I guess everything has to be competitive in some way then? Lets compete over how much fun we can have in our cars? dosnt quite fit in my head. "Look at me look at me!" in a way i agree in what you are saying... there are many posers "buying into the scene" like many cool and up and coming car scenes.. i like what i like and can see these people showing off whatever.. the real fakie's will just move on to the next new cool scene when it comes along.. some will stick with what they have found because they have found there fun/vice... some have always be doing it whether it cool or not... i believe thats me.. i want to see/do a drift event as i havnt as yet... but ive done it for years and it seams that its an excuse for me to "playup" and "act off" to my hearts content!! however that might mean being cool or showing off?! so just give me a field... a gallon or 2 of the good stuff...... and a morris marina with a welded diff and i will be happy all day!! ;D si
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st182
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Good read folks, a few of us had a good natter over on PPC a while back: www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1055&SearchTerms=driftingMy opinion is that its great, and i envy their car control. I personally would prefer to be good at getting around a track quicker, but i still enjoy drifting as its essentially petrol heads displaying their car control in a totally different way to "normal" motorsport, which at the end of the day is "who is fastest point to point." I've not long since read the article in PPC about the drifter man in his adapted M3, and I was astonished to see that back in the late 90's when i was running my mk1 escort i used to use a "drift technique" to kick the back out on dry roads (in the wet it was easy using just the loud pedal). It had an HC 1300 crossy, but it was tired and therefore very gutless- so on entry to a bend I would select the next lower gear early to make the road wheels spin slower than the road to break the grip between the tyres and the road, then floor the throttle to spin up the back wheels- and I could "roger clarke it" (as i used to say ) around the bend ;D This was great fun indeed, and now I have 2 FWD cars I'm really hankering to have the option of the "odd drift" to brighten up boring journeys. I think the reason why I like this sort of thing is, that when i was a kid, I remember when the local boy racers were running motors like RS2000's, kadett coupe's, chuvvits etc etc and a couple of these lads went on to do clubman rallying in a chuvvit and a mk2 escort. When the "next generation" came along in their FWD vw's and injected / turbocharged fords i never took to them, as they were never as good to watch. My biggest problem with drifting is the "drift tax" applied to my fave genre of cars since, theres no way i can afford the cars I could have had ten years ago. Just my 2p, hope y'all still awake ;D
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Interesting thread, as one of the UK's most serious & professional drivers, I instruct, organise events & commercially provide demos to major events. I can see where the general opinion lies, I think its often where you first saw it tbh. Some of the demo events I've seen at venues like the pod are more akin to rolling burnouts than proper car control stuff, though not always the case,however take it to a proper circuit, at race speeds with a seriously fast car & its a different ballgame. A couple of weeks back I took the owner of a circuit in Sweden out around his track, he'd obviously driven it thousands of times around it in fast cars, I'm joking he came came back shaking he was awe struck at what we were up to. If you've not seen it at race speeds on a race circuit, with proper 500bhp drift cars then I'd suggest go & see it for real. It sure is damn scary fun from the drivers seat, try it at 130mph & its a completely different ball game to circly skids on a patch of tarmac. This pic always me make think, Rockingham, just two of us playing on a demo day, entry initiation point was 170m before the chicane (thats before the brake board) at 125mph up against the wall. Was your car on the universal turbo stand at J fest?
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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May 25, 2007 13:05:03 GMT
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Interesting thread, as one of the UK's most serious & professional drivers, I instruct, organise events & commercially provide demos to major events. I can see where the general opinion lies, I think its often where you first saw it tbh. Some of the demo events I've seen at venues like the pod are more akin to rolling burnouts than proper car control stuff, though not always the case,however take it to a proper circuit, at race speeds with a seriously fast car & its a different ballgame. A couple of weeks back I took the owner of a circuit in Sweden out around his track, he'd obviously driven it thousands of times around it in fast cars, I'm joking he came came back shaking he was awe struck at what we were up to. If you've not seen it at race speeds on a race circuit, with proper 500bhp drift cars then I'd suggest go & see it for real. It sure is damn scary fun from the drivers seat, try it at 130mph & its a completely different ball game to circly skids on a patch of tarmac. This pic always me make think, Rockingham, just two of us playing on a demo day, entry initiation point was 170m before the chicane (thats before the brake board) at 125mph up against the wall. Was your car on the universal turbo stand at J fest? Yep that was my beasty
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May 25, 2007 13:33:01 GMT
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Remade In Australia thereimaginarium.com.au
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May 25, 2007 14:26:06 GMT
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battie-drift.com?
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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topi
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May 25, 2007 17:30:18 GMT
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Interesting thread, as one of the UK's most serious & professional drivers... Sorry but.... that is funny to read.
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madcas
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May 26, 2007 19:16:03 GMT
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Been lurking for ages, but this has bought me out of the woodwork. Reading through this it seems like everything I want to say has been said, in some form or another but I may as well stick my 2 cable-ties worth in. Have to say I am one of the drift crowd. I love all forms of motorsport, and I see drifting as an equivalent of figure skating vs. speed skating or freestyle moto-x vs. supermoto, yes its not racing but a judged display of control. Yes its not a new thing, people have been going sideways in cars for years, and it was spawned in japan about 40 years ago. I'm fed up of trying to explain it to stuck up motorsports types, drifting as in rallying is very different, just because you can drive a car fast and get the tail out occasionally does not men you can hop in a car and be great drifter after a few minutes practice. Conversely, just because you can smoke the tyres all the way round the track with good angle does not mean you are any good at all at driving fast, In fact i think a large group of the people on the driftworks forum are curse word drivers, but when you have a 200hp+ car with stiff as hell suspension and a diff that locks and unlocks when it should its easy to go sideways and make it look halfway convincing. It is quite a cliquey scene, but if your 'face doesn't fit' and you get a pissripping on the forums its usually for one of three reasons: -You take yourself far too seriously, and cant laugh off a minor, freindly ribbing -You come across as a chav, the kind of person that will buy a cheap curse word RWD car, cover it in halfords tat and then go and get busted driving like a cock with 'DRIFTDRIFTDRIFT' written all over your car... ...NOT good for the scene and others involved. -You have a massive ego and think you are better tha you are. I find the people that don't appreciate drifting in any way are either aforementioned stuck up motorsports types, people that have FWD cars, or people that think drifting will trash your car as quick as banger racing it would. Hope this is a good first post and I made lots of new freinds. Topi beat me to saying 'drifting sucks' for irony value, And ignore Declan, he's lost his marbles. Top bloke tho.
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-Cas- Sierra 3 door SR500, Skyline R32 1JZ, MA61 Celica Supra, Yamaha YTZ250N Quad ALL IN BITS!
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May 26, 2007 19:34:43 GMT
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bogan spec? you a convict? ;D welcome aboard, lurker. lurk no more *n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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frankie28
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May 27, 2007 12:16:42 GMT
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I`ve had a go twice at one of these drift days in my old 2.8 capri, and I must say that I had great fun!
The only thing that I have against Drifting, is the type of car that is always used.
I would like to see more stuff like capri`s, manta`s, old celica`s etc. seen a few cortina`s and granada`s at drift events on youtube and the give as good as the rest of them. just seems to be the same cars over and over again. I like the trampdrift idea of using sierra`s, senators etc. prooving that you don`t need lots of cash to have a go.
For those who thing its just arsing about in cars, we all like the sidways antic`s of a mk2 escort on a rally stage, and you only see them for a few seconds at a time with drifting, you can see nearly the whole lot.
Drifting is about skill if done in the right place under the right conditions. and huge crowd entertainment. much more fun watching that then formula one these days.
Frankie
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madcas
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bogan spec? you a convict? ;D welcome aboard, lurker. lurk no more *n I'm descended from convicts But not a native. Just a bogan lifestyler, bringing bogan to the UK masses. Love the avatar by the way ;D Frankie did you have a go at north weald? I'd like to see more retro/domestic drifting, north weald was good for variety, but mostly its just scores of S13/14 200sx driven by JDM bummers. I think there needs to be a retro rides track/drift day.
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-Cas- Sierra 3 door SR500, Skyline R32 1JZ, MA61 Celica Supra, Yamaha YTZ250N Quad ALL IN BITS!
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slater
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I think there needs to be a retro rides track/drift day. hear hear!
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