glenanderson
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That's a good idea. I've a big plastic box that would be ideal. When the rebuild kit arrives I shall study the supplied instructions. If it looks do-able I shall have a go. If not I'll get it done by the bloke who's re-set the injectors for me.
Cheers, Glen.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Aug 10, 2015 14:40:29 GMT
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thats a fair shout glen, investing in getting the engine running.
i mean, recon injectors + overhauled inj pump, plus a running engine, of an engine of this vintage, to a buyer of this vintage, would be serious selling point
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Last Edit: Aug 10, 2015 14:41:15 GMT by darrenh
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glenanderson
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Aug 10, 2015 14:53:32 GMT
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I hope so Darren!
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Aug 10, 2015 19:41:41 GMT
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Plus once its running it can be shifted to your place under its own steam so should save you a bit in transport costs.
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glenanderson
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Aug 10, 2015 22:24:11 GMT
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Plus once its running it can be shifted to your place under its own steam so should save you a bit in transport costs. That is the main reason for biting the bullet. Not so much so I can drive it home, mainly so I can get it in from the main road and parked here without spending a day struggling and sweating trying to manhandle it into position. Also, being able to drive on and off a recovery vehicle makes moving it that way more straightforward too. Still, got a lot of family stuff for the next week or two, so there won't be much (if any) progress for a bit. |
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PHUQ
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Aug 11, 2015 14:25:06 GMT
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Never gotten to far involved in stripping diesel parts, but I was told to keep all parts in a tray of clean diesel, as some of the tolerances are so close, just the heat from your fingers can expand parts so they don't fit, Plus it means all parts are lubricated Ttfn Glenn Not with this you won't- I hand built test injectors for modern lorries for a while, they are blummin' sensitive (and keeping them very clean is a good idea) but they ain't that bad- if they were that sensitive to temperature they wouldn't work very well in an engine, which gets a lot hotter than the human body (although obviously everything gets hot so it's all about relative expansion). Manufacturing tolerances are pretty damn tight though to allow for expansion while not getting excessive leakage when cold. Anyway, keep 'em clean and protect them from corrosion and they'll be fine- keeping them in clean diesel is a good way of doing that I admit  Scrap nozzle needles make excellent punches by the way- they are very hard! Good to see progress by the way- followed a nice restored one through Cirencester the other day and thought of this  |
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actionslaxx
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Aug 11, 2015 14:43:20 GMT
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I understood a diesel apprentice back in the day served most of his time on the pump as it was so complex, by the way you've got a slate lose.
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Frankenhealey
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Aug 11, 2015 15:14:58 GMT
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I understood a diesel apprentice back in the day served most of his time on the pump as it was so complex, by the way you've got a slate lose. I believe that's many slates loose and what about that ridge? New thread on 'Readers Other Modifications'?  |
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glenanderson
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Aug 13, 2015 22:34:53 GMT
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I understood a diesel apprentice back in the day served most of his time on the pump as it was so complex, by the way you've got a slate lose. I believe that's many slates loose and what about that ridge? New thread on 'Readers Other Modifications'? There is a technical term for the state of the roof, but the Forum's profanity filter won't let me say it. Suffice it to say that "the newness has definitely worn off". I plan patching the small front hipped section to last me through the winter, as next year (hopefully) that whole bit is coming off and getting built up to match the rear. The back two thirds has way too many slipped slates both sides to make any kind of sensible repair, however temporary, so I'll strip all the slates off before winter sets in and batten a temporary cover over that part to last until the front bit is rebuilt. I've downloaded a manual for the pump, but have had no time to properly digest it yet. Once I have, I'll make a decision as to whether I attempt it myself, or swallow the cost of getting it done professionally. |
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glenanderson
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Sept 5, 2015 15:38:57 GMT
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An update.
I digested the rebuild manual for the injection pump. There were too many references to "special tool" this and "special tool" that for my liking, so I took it to the fuel injection specialist who did my injectors. He started to strip it, but pronounced it irreparable. This cheesed me off somewhat, but on the bright side he only charged me for the two injectors that needed new nozzles, he reset the other four for free. So I came away from there with six good injectors and only £74 lighter, but in possession of a now part stripped and supposedly useless injector pump...
Having some years of experience in the workings of elderly diesels, and various "specialists", I am well aware when I am being fobbed off. I really wish people would just say "I don't want to do it", rather than take it on and waste a week of my time. I only chose this company because of their proximity to my place of work, so a bit of time on the phone was then spent to track down somewhere not too far away that would be prepared to give me a second opinion. Found a company near Maidstone who turned it around in four days; the only parts they had to replace were the two broken by the chap at the first place when he tried pulling it apart. I'm now in possession of an "as-new" pump, but out of pocket another £420. This is not a cheap hobby.
Still, having tried to buy either a re-con exchange free pump, or a good known working secondhand one with no success, I should be able to recoup the lion's share of that if the worst comes to it and I still can't resurrect the engine, and if I can, it should add most of that to the engine's resale value.
Hopefully I'll find the time next week to fit them and see if it'll go.
Fingers crossed.
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Sept 5, 2015 20:22:57 GMT
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Fingers crossed for you, I was gutted when the place I used to take injection pumps to closed down due to retirement, they were the only ones I had ever been to when I didn't feel I was getting ripped off....
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Frankenhealey
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Sept 6, 2015 21:11:36 GMT
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This is not a cheap hobby. ^^^ What he said |
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glenanderson
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Sept 8, 2015 20:27:40 GMT
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Snatched an hour at the lorry today after work.
I am a moron.
The last time I was there I neglected to refit the bonnet before I left, so my first job was to spin the engine over to purge all the rainwater that had ended up inside it due to the injectors being out. Doh.
Still, that done, and the invoice for the injector pump rebuild still causing my Barclaycard to have palpitations, I set to draining the fuel system. Got about forty litres of stale diesel out of it. Not sure if it's red or just old, but it's the colour of stewed tea. I was half-way tempted to sling it in the Landy a gallon at a time, but I'm not taking the chance on it and will reserve it for bonfire lighting or parts washing duties.
Ran an out of time before I'd managed to completely empty the tank, but should be able to get it finished tomorrow and the sedimentor cleaned out too. Will probably put another new fuel filter on if I can find one in the shed. Then twenty litres of fresh diesel will see any residual old stuff sufficiently diluted (I've had to siphon it out as the drain plug is well and truly frozen in place and I don't want to tear the bottom out of the tank trying to undo it) and I'll make a start refitting the pump and injectors.
Oh, and yes, I remembered to put the bonnet back on this time!
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glenanderson
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Sept 11, 2015 19:56:13 GMT
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The latest instalment... Managed to get up to the lorry again on Wednesday and got the last bit of old fuel out of it. This is what it looked like:  You can probably understand why I didn't really want to put it through the nice new pump and injectors... I didn't have a vast amount of time, so once I'd done that, cleaned the pre-filter and fitted the pump it was time to knock it on the head for the day, so this was how I had to leave things:  I got back there again tonight for another hour. Refitted the injectors and associated plumbing, and connected the throttle rod and kill cable:  So, with all that done I only had about five minutes left before I really had to get going, so that was it for the night... Only Joking! Even though time was tight, I couldn't leave it untried; so after the necessary bleeding and retightening of all the unions it was time for the "moment of truth"! So. On that bombshell. Goodnight! |
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Sept 11, 2015 20:06:34 GMT
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Fantastic great to see it running after 16pages of reading, it's a great feeling when a project starts for the first time, I'm chuffed for you!
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Sept 11, 2015 20:10:52 GMT
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'i'm quite pleased'- understatement !
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glenanderson
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Sept 11, 2015 20:26:44 GMT
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Fantastic great to see it running after 16pages of reading, it's a great feeling when a project starts for the first time, I'm chuffed for you! 'i'm quite pleased'- understatement ! Cheers lads. Yes, "quite pleased" is definitely an understatement! Got to remain focussed though, it needs to hold water before I can run it for any length of time, which means I've got to hope the liners are OK and their seals and the head gasket are sound too. The radiator is pretty crusty looking too (and the other one I have is bent), so whilst it can leak a bit, it mustn't be weeing out. Freeing off the clutch could prove to be fun too. Still, I'm an awful lot further forward today than I was yesterday. I have set myself a target of the end of the month to get it home. |
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Sept 11, 2015 20:55:21 GMT
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That is a fantastic achievement, well done!
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Sept 11, 2015 21:26:22 GMT
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Top job and a major milestone - even if you are going to rip it out!.
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Frankenhealey
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Sept 11, 2015 21:46:28 GMT
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I do like the patina. Please don't over restore it.
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