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Jul 23, 2014 15:36:06 GMT
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Someone has put a jag v6 in an mk1 mx5, used a custom bellhouse adapter and mated it to a mx5 6 speed box. Think it was on throttle bodies though. You have no idea how hard it is to make a bellhousing adaptor PROPERLY - if they're out of alignment by 0.1mm, either the engine bearings, or the gearbox bearings will be under duress, and so may fail a lot sooner than usual
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Jul 23, 2014 16:17:51 GMT
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CAD outline of box side centered on shaft overlayed with CAD outline of engine side also centered on the shaft....? Get a handy machine shop to cut it et voila.
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Jul 23, 2014 16:24:43 GMT
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Someone has put a jag v6 in an mk1 mx5, used a custom bellhouse adapter and mated it to a mx5 6 speed box. Think it was on throttle bodies though. Was that not the Mazda KL V6? Would be awesome if someone has done the Jaguar V6 as well
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Jul 23, 2014 16:29:31 GMT
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You have no idea how hard it is to make a bellhousing adaptor PROPERLY - if they're out of alignment by 0.1mm, either the engine bearings, or the gearbox bearings will be under duress, and so may fail a lot sooner than usual It was made by the company doing the conversion, the thread read like they would be keeping the CAD file so they could sell the adapters. Looked like it was cnc machined so I wouldnt worry about it being out But as you an get a s type with a manual box its not something to worry about as I'm sure a capri has more than enough room for the jag box.
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Jul 23, 2014 16:32:34 GMT
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Last Edit: Jul 23, 2014 16:34:29 GMT by joem83
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Jul 23, 2014 16:36:52 GMT
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Awesomeeee!
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Jul 23, 2014 16:57:18 GMT
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CAD outline of box side centered on shaft overlayed with CAD outline of engine side also centered on the shaft....? Get a handy machine shop to cut it et voila. *n Getting an accurate outline of a box, along with the centreline of the shaft - is actually fairly difficult on some boxes. Example being my Rover diesel - maybe 2 holes were on the same PCD, and not a single one is in line vertically, horizontally, or on mirrored angles Ended up just abandoning a particular project, because there was no cost-effective way of getting an accurate model of the bellhousing. To do it properly, would entail setting up the face of the bellhousing perfectly horizontal, and manually tracing the outlines with something like a CMM scanner. Trying to find a picture of what I would have tried to use, seems to fallen out of fashion - they've now changed to laser based it seems:
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Jul 23, 2014 16:59:01 GMT
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Also - don't forget the Jag v12 miata
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Jul 23, 2014 18:49:34 GMT
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Only do about 10 miles a day commuting (round trip) It might just be me but I wouldn't even consider firing up the car for a 10 mile round trip. If I had a safe and secure job that was 10 miles away from home I wouldn't even factor in commuting I'd just get something utterly mental.
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No-one seems to want to use the Jag gearbox from what I've read, why is that? bad ratios? If it would fit it would make sense to keep it simple and kepp the Jag box unless it's utterly terrible. Only do about 10 miles a day commuting (round trip) It might just be me but I wouldn't even consider firing up the car for a 10 mile round trip. If I had a safe and secure job that was 10 miles away from home I wouldn't even factor in commuting I'd just get something utterly mental. Lol!!
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Jul 24, 2014 14:57:28 GMT
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Find an old bmw 540 with a manual box, 280bhp with german reliability. don't bother with the cossie v6, too heavy and gutless. Could you elaborate on that at all? It is 2nd favourite so far on the poll so surely can't be all that bad?
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Find an old bmw 540 with a manual box, 280bhp with german reliability. don't bother with the cossie v6, too heavy and gutless.
I know a bit about fitting the 540i V8, can't say it was that easy or that reliable bmwv8capri.yolasite.com/
Cosworth BOA V6 is the easiest route to 200bhp, standard ford gearbox parts, uncoded ECU simple to wire in
granted you'd get a bit more power from the S-type 3L but the manual versions are quite rare, + cost of aftermarket ECU, custom prop, engine mounts, etc
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Jul 25, 2014 16:58:54 GMT
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If in doubt Saab turbo
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Jul 26, 2014 10:52:23 GMT
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Just leave this here Cheap enough to buy and without stretching its early 90,s legs will easily see 350bhp and a lot more torque Fit snugly in a Capri without much messing also What? To even buy a YB with the bits attached you're looking at 2k+, and it'll indefinitely need a rebuild!
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Jul 26, 2014 10:53:45 GMT
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Be different and pop a Duratec in it, go with a 2.3 and hang a turbo off the side. Not enough Duratec turbos around, they're awesome engines.
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Jul 26, 2014 13:10:50 GMT
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Just leave this here Cheap enough to buy and without stretching its early 90,s legs will easily see 350bhp and a lot more torque Fit snugly in a Capri without much messing also What? To even buy a YB with the bits attached you're looking at 2k+, and it'll indefinitely need a rebuild! Not strictly true if you box clever and can rebuild yourself if needs be My point was most of the other options are fairly gutless compared to your average yb setup , so do you say spend 1.5k sticking lets just say bob or boa motor in car only to find its not enough grin factor etc etc Then have to make the best of what you got and tune it which with bob or boa is difficult with only small gains made maybe 200 bhp with an extra 1k chucked into it Therefore making a yb obvious choice IMHO 220 bhp out of the box and with around 800 spent easily transform it into 300+ bhp So don't really think it is expensive really
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Jul 26, 2014 19:49:36 GMT
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What about the 2.3 in the Scorpio ? 4 pot 16v, and ditch the lazy cams for sum from an rs2000 can even use the efi and ecu,
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Jul 26, 2014 20:34:43 GMT
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Being silly what about a V6 3.0 Duratec + twin turbos - I know they've got a bad reputation on the cooling front - but they don't half go well.
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Jul 26, 2014 22:10:07 GMT
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DIY build zetec turbo is always a cheap and viable option although standalone ecu will be the main cost with that conversion too Built up a DIY 2.0 zetec turbo last year for a friend and motor cost less than 800 to build inc doner engine cost Also made a solid 270 bhp on dyno too when he ran it on a RR day
He used cosworth management on it too help keep costs down
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Jul 26, 2014 23:12:19 GMT
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Find an old bmw 540 with a manual box, 280bhp with german reliability. don't bother with the cossie v6, too heavy and gutless. Could you elaborate on that at all? It is 2nd favourite so far on the poll so surely can't be all that bad? I dropped a cossie v6 into a sierra with an type 9 manual gearbox. After I broke the 2nd type 9, I had a hybrid mt75 made up for it. The car always felt nose heavy due to the iron block and with only 200ish bhp wasn't that quick. It was however very easy to fit and wire (All ford parts). Fuel wise I used to get around 25mpg. I'm assuming the cossie v6 is 2nd fave on the poll because it is a safe bolt in job, unlike a v8. But having gone to the trouble of fitting a different engine, you'll be gutted when the neighbors diesel vectra wastes you. A v8 will put a smile on your face everyday, a turbo 4 pot like the nissan option would make a quick car, or perhaps some form of turbo diesel would fit the bill? A couple of suggestions not found on your list are: -Rover t16 turbo -Mercedes om606 3.0 turbo diesel -Vauxhall 3.2 v6 -Mercedes / BMW v8 -Ford dauratec v6 -Sabb 2.3 turbo -BMW 2.8 6cyl
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Last Edit: Jul 26, 2014 23:15:44 GMT by carat 3.6
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