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Well now... a little update. Its started to rain here in normally sunny old nelson and I didn't like seeing the wagon out there filling with water due to no doors (although the fist sized holes in the sills let the water out..) My brother was over this evening so while extra hands were about we pushed the little wagon into the shed where Hannah has been spending a few hours here and there doing her wagon thing. I felt like I was missing out.. not helped by Hannah now giving me grief that I don't actually own a wagon. She claims its just a mere hatchback. Not fair! :-( Once inside I emptied it out. There was a spare tailgate (or hatch......) and the doors off a white car. The tailhatchgate is actaully the original item. Not sure why it was swapped over but luckily its much better rust wise. Still rusty but not terminal. Then I set to picking out all the various bits that old cars collect. So far I found some money as usual...I'm now up to 7c. So car now only owes me $599.93 I also found various tiny plastic toys, a key ring clip, a bicycle combination lock - missing the chain, a eraser and a tow ball. Quite a score... The fella I bought the car from cut up another Viva a while back. I managed to score a complete floor plan half along with the sill for the rusty(er) side. It will be bloody handy and will make the repair job so much quicker! The worse of the sills.. The floor/sill for transplant.. Now some might say "why bother trying to rescue such a rusty old car" and my answer would be...well just look at the interior. Check out the mint dash for example... The doors need to be put in place before I start bracing and chopping things up. Not so easy when they were removed by simply chopping through the pins. Vivas don't use bolt on hinges! This I have only just learned. They are instead welded in place and the only way to remove the doors is to 'carefully' hammer the pins out. So I have some rusted in pins to deal with. Fun times. Tomorrow I will have a go at starting the awesome 1200cc power plant. Hopefully fit the doors so it can go back outside and dealwith rain a bit easier and I can sleep easy.
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Last Edit: Aug 7, 2015 5:09:22 GMT by yoeddynz
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jpsmit
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Mar 27, 2015 16:29:25 GMT
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Mad! I love it. Are you keeping it stock engine wise?
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bazzateer
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Imping along sans Vogue
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Mar 27, 2015 16:33:42 GMT
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Love these cars. Whatever you do with it, you have to keep those wheels!
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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Mar 27, 2015 18:25:14 GMT
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Oh yeah- the Cheviot turbos! They are staying for sure!!! Very hard to find them in 4"pcd and they suit it so well!
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Mar 27, 2015 20:13:53 GMT
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Glad the wheels are staying. I love them. Look like they fell off the General Lee
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Mar 27, 2015 21:40:10 GMT
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I'm a big fan of any estate lately...I like this ones shape easily as much as the sedan...if not moreso...
keep at it...don't loose the faith!
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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Mar 27, 2015 23:13:02 GMT
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Last Edit: Mar 27, 2015 23:14:46 GMT by yoeddynz
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Lots of Win there
But in the Viva you may need to cut your legs off!
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Contrary to popular opinion, I do have mechanical sympathy, I always feel sorry for the cars I drive.
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Apr 13, 2015 10:12:51 GMT
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Yeah, good one. Bit of a T-cut and a polish she'll be right. Nice collection of found stuff too.
That 'Wagnats' meet looks like fun. Advertised as being on 'Bob Marley's Birthday' - now, how would you celebrate such a day?
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^ Yeah. Hmmmm. Bob marley, bunch of mates, beer, bbq, smokey smoke. Yep. Righto- update time! Ok so I have started cracking into this today. Hannah has left me for a few weeks for the lovely grey sky days of the UK summer. So while there is a gap between jobs coming in and my meals simply consist of toast, cheese on toast, cheese on toast with salami (my favourite, takes a bit more prep but worth it) or cereal this means I have ample time to chop out rust. The aim of the game with this wagon is to get it safe and road legal as cheaply as possible with no effort at all to tart it up. (Mainly because I am broke and it would also be a crying shame to lose any of that patina that has been carefully encouraged by years of nurturing from previous owners. I just want it to be a turn key hack wagon. I have spoken to my wof (MOT) man and warned him that one hellish eyesore of a manky old Viva wagon will be heading his way in the near future. I have told him I want to push the boundaries of what non structural rust I can get away with and be legal/safe. His cars have rust so he understands anyway :-) Photo time now I have showered off a heap of rust dust and grinding dust. I'm pretty happy with how far I got today. First off, a photo of some of the patina I would really like to keep. I would like to treat the rusty scrapes and surface rust with something that keeps the colour but stops it getting worse? All the rust neutralisers I know of turn the rust black which wont look so good. Ideas? Clear coating it is an option. It doesnt have to last for ages because after a while I'm sure I'll want to paint it but for at least first year or so would be good. I was going to remove the windscreen to avoid getting grinding sparks marking the glass on the inside. But I didnt. Three reasons; the rubber will disintegrate and I don't want to fork out $100 for new stuff right now, the glass is scratched already so might as well wait till later when the car is insured and then has a random stone hit it...., I like the moss. It adds character. I took on the worst area, the passenger floor and inner sill, which is also the area which dealt with first because it will put some strength back into the shell. The steel on these HB Vivas is actually quite good quality and quite thick. It certainly knocks cut off discs down quickly. I picked my way out to good steel and chopped away. First off this bit.. I am not really fussed about trying to piece this back together the way it was from the factory. If its strong and lasts I'm happy. But I want to keep things like the channels in the floor because it will leak and they do help let water out. Plus they keep the flat bits of steel from being wobbly. So I whipped up a jig the right size and hammered the channels into the steel.. Now the nasty bit. The inner sill was beyond patching. But I am very very lucky that the top of the sill is rust free and solid which meant I could happily chop out this lot and not have the door aperture move on me. Also helped by the fact that Vivas have nice substantial chassis rails too. Not that the inner sill, or what was left, was doing much. It pretty much fell out. Next job was to cut out what I needed from the spare sill/floor pan I had been given. I think its about here that we should give a few seconds silence for the little Viva that sacrificed its life for this part. Not my choice- it was chopped up by a man in christchurch who insists that every Viva he kills makes his worth more. But at least I got something from it. The donor was pretty rusty. Poor viva. The piece I required was cut out.. Then heatgun and scrape the underseal off.. Followed by lots of chopping, measuring, trimming, measuring and finally in place ready to be welded. Which is about where I finished off today. My bin of rust is filling up.. Tomorrow I'll weld that bit in place and start on the outer sill and sill ends. I'd love to put it up on the hoist to do that but then I think I would be risking things moving out of place. So I'll continue kneeling on my 5 layers of carpet off cuts and persevere.
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Last Edit: Aug 7, 2015 5:02:56 GMT by yoeddynz
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It feels like I've been waiting an age for you to start this one. Love the shape of the estate.
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dikkehemaworst
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I did my windowrubbers with the non-sticking backside brownish tape off the back of a roll double sided sticky tape. Slith that under the rubber and filled the holes with black silicone gasket sealant. Even made the non exsistend window seals , and they work excellent in keeping the water out. And when your finished , you just pull the brown tape off and voila!
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Top idea!!! I like it. I like it a lot! I'll give that a go. At some point I will have to remove the window to check under there but I cant see any rust creeping out so for now I leave it be and keep the moss :-)
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dikkehemaworst
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And on my autin ten hp saloon , i kept the rust at bay with an oily soaked rag. Really cheap option and always available. And when you are ready for paint , just wash the oil off.
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dikkehemaworst
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There's a guy in holland who just broke a viva and kept all the parts except the body. Saloon obviously. he's selling them off now. something to consider while your wife is in england. look at the pictures. You probably recognise some parts. vauxhall viva onderdelen Zie omschrijving link.marktplaats.nl/m940582146
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Good idea on oil too. Although does the car get dirty? I could see the oil picking up dust etc.
Ive got Hannah bringing me back a windscreen seal for Viva one. Sadly she is limited on weight allowance so cant get too much :-( I know a couple of local friends who have old Vivas and lots of parts so hopefully I should be OK. Those parts you have linked to are off an HC Viva.
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dikkehemaworst
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She hardly got driven anyway. She hated rain , hills , mountains or even slopes , was incontinent and had the sloppiest steering i have ever experienced , but i loved her to dead and regret swapping her for a mint beetle convertible.
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Cheers Johnny- shall we combine our piles of rust and build some kind of hybrid rust machine. A RX2HBWAG? HBRX2WAG? Catchy? Anyway...Coffee time so update time. Floor all welded up and feeling a lot more solid :-) Next up the passenger side sill. Before I cut it out I thought Id show you all what a truly wonderful bit of filling work had been attempted to hide the rot. I think whoever did this had slapped the filler on and just gave up. I thought I might cut a section from the spare sill I had. But no. Its been attacked before and the old man who had owned that car obviously didnt have a welder but certainly had a pop riveter... Hopefully it will all go OK. I'm hoping the rot has not extended right up the top as I want something to weld to. If it has I will just have more sections to make. Will report back later with my findings. I will have to do it in 600mm long repairs whatever as that is the length my folder will take.
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Hahaha. Unfortunately we can't combine our rust buckets as I have had to throw away the rust as I go....my garage isn't big enough to keep all of it!
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