MWF
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Apr 25, 2007 10:13:55 GMT
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I have heard about similarities times before, but the YB is a Pinto with Twink head isn't it? (not my field at all BTW!!  ) is that the similar bit, same designer  To me the Vaux lump was always just a GTE/calibra engine. never given enough credit I guess  and they go pretty cheap don't they?   ....  Ford YB was a turbocharged 16v Pinto all developed by Cosworth after Ford saw their development Pinto 16v conversion. The GM XE/LET engine was co-developed by GM and Cosworth, Cosworth designing and building the heads (eventually these were produced by GM themselves) Beware what you read on the Vauxhall forums, major BS on there about the XE and LET development imo. The Cosworth name was in no way exclusive to Ford, they did a lot of engine development for many manufacturers. |
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Apr 25, 2007 10:18:47 GMT
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everyday is a skool day. cheers. |
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts  |
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Apr 25, 2007 10:24:56 GMT
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Anyone read the book about Keith Duckworth + Cosworth?? Fantastic story. I like the bit where he's sat at his desk and someone gives him an Avenger BRM 16v cylinder head, he looks at it for a minute or two and shoves his fingers in the ports to check it out, then simply dismisses it as being pez compared to the Cosworth BDA head (turned out he was right).
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon
1975 Mazda 929 Coupé
1986 Mazda 929 Wagon
1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop
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1977 Toyota Carina TA14
1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon
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1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr
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Mike D
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provocativeMike D
@v8mike
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Apr 25, 2007 10:34:42 GMT
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Nice to see a carlton back-to-front dizzy cobbled onto there with a bit of ally plate! That ought to work pretty well when combined with the turdblowa. It looks like the factory manta bracketry way of dizzy mounting to me...  So long as the toothed belt is at the right tension it should be ok though i'd reckon? `you shouldn't encounter too much resistance off a dizzy? |
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Apr 25, 2007 11:29:25 GMT
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right enough, but a carlton dizzy is going to make a lousy job of sending the sparks at the right time. Specially with a turbo, the timing curve is going to be all over the shop. Surely he ought to have kept the standard distributorless set-up?
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon
1975 Mazda 929 Coupé
1986 Mazda 929 Wagon
1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop
1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica
1977 Toyota Carina TA14
1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon
1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr
1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL
1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo
1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr
2000 Rover 45 V6 Club
1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel
1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon
1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler
2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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provocativeRobinxr4i
@robinxr4i
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Apr 25, 2007 11:46:45 GMT
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If you are building a fast road/track escort than I can understand using an na. XE/LET to power that, cause of the ease to find a good one and price of rebuilds plus the fact that conversion parts are already avaliable. But using an Turbo XE/LET to power a Sierra seems like a bit of a round the house way to do it? Surely the cost of putting an LET turbo in to a sierra would at the end of the day be similar to the cost of putting in a YB, plus the headache of fabricating engine mounts, exhaust etc? Still at the end of the day its going to be a fast Sierra and thats all that counts!!!!! You can get a 302 in a Sierra, I'd do that  Anyway I agree with Alistairk, on this one 302 would be sweet........ now all I need is a written off mustang |
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Apr 25, 2007 12:03:55 GMT
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or Gayvan, F150, F250, Fairmont, Falcon, Fairlane, Galaxie, Torino, Ranchero, Thunderbird, Cougar...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 26, 2007 17:41:02 GMT
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I don't mind cross polination when it makes sence, eg mini with vtec or red top. but this boggles me a bit, I don't find it offensive or anything daft like that just seems odd not to pick a ford engine. cool motor tho Vtec or red top in a mini are a right non-sense conversion in my mind, they sit too far forward and cock up the handling and balance of an otherwise very good little car.. Whereas an LET into a rwd ford seems to make sense, especially as cosworth engines seem to go for silly money non sense conversion?? 160 bhp in a car which weights 700kgs, if thats non sense then ill take a large plate of non sense with a can of silly things to wash it down with. havent heard any of the people i know complaining about the handling with their v tec minis |
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provocativearthurbrown
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Apr 26, 2007 18:05:01 GMT
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Yes, but your peoples who lash thousands of hours and quids on VTEC conversions are hardly likely to shout proudly
'YES! I have finished it! It sucks major donkeys knob!! What a waste of chops!!!'
are they?
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Mike D
Club Retro Rides Member
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provocativeMike D
@v8mike
Club Retro Rides Member 57
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Apr 26, 2007 18:43:00 GMT
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160 bhp in 700 kgs will make for a fast car. IF you can get the power down. Also, when most of that 700kgs is hanging fore of the front axles, it'll make it an understeery pig. Try driving a stock seat cupra with the stock 220 odd hp round a track. then try driving one with no back seats or interior, and 300 hp with a horse tied to the front bumper round the track... ** ** i havent actually tried this, but i reckon it'd illustrate my point quite nicely. Option A will be better |
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) is that the similar bit, same designer 
To me the Vaux lump was always just a GTE/calibra engine. never given enough credit I guess 
and they go pretty cheap don't they? 
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So long as the toothed belt is at the right tension it should be ok though i'd reckon? `you shouldn't encounter too much resistance off a dizzy?
