Bibby
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Apr 23, 2007 19:12:34 GMT
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Folks, I've a few panels to paint in matt black, going to use Rustoleum as per the monster thread on Moparts here. Just wondering if there's any "final procedure" when it comes to matt paint. With a gloss finish you'd flatten and polish, but I'm guessing that once the final coat of matt is on, you just leave it? |
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Apr 23, 2007 20:39:07 GMT
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from what ive heard u don't colour sand matt paint
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Apr 23, 2007 21:09:51 GMT
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Intersting article that - thanks. I've read a fair bit on using gloss rollers/brushes to paint cars Here's a UK one : clickyThis guy uses Tekaloid, which seems to be used by truck painters etc Might be some help or have some useful contacts Never had much luck with matt black though  Looks nice just after it has dried, but marks and picks up fingerprints very easily. Bits that I did spray matt are now redone in satin black. It just doesn't seem to mark so easily. |
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Apr 23, 2007 21:12:24 GMT
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Like CelicaV8 says, never use matt, use satin instead. Another problem with matt is that it absorbs the rain and speeds up rust.
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Using matt paintarthurbrown
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Apr 23, 2007 21:13:58 GMT
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^what they said^
Satin, not matt.
I've done matt before. Looked RUBBARSH
Done satin too - Not quite so rubbarsh!
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Bibby
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Apr 23, 2007 21:19:19 GMT
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Cheers for the tips. Satin it is then.
Got a 2.5ltr tin of matt Rustoleum on the way already though, but I can find another use for it.
As for the satin, application as per gloss?
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markbognor
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Using matt paintmarkbognor
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Apr 23, 2007 21:26:01 GMT
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Is the paint they are talking about in the mopar thread essentially Hammerite or is there another brand we have that is more simmilar?
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Bibby
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Apr 23, 2007 21:28:43 GMT
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Apr 23, 2007 21:43:43 GMT
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....well if you've got matt on the way, it might be worth a go. You could practise your roller technique with it.  There are always posts about anchor (spelling?) wax that the rat look lot use to seal in the patina - might work on matt? Never 'finished' satin paint - I think if you colour sand or polish it you'll lose the satin finish. The parts I do have in satin (rear wheel arches) I have put a coat of wax on, it still looks satin but has a bit of protection. Here's my satin (waxed) wheel arches, against a fully colour polished celly bodywork : .jpg) |
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Bibby
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Apr 23, 2007 22:06:48 GMT
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The parts I do have in satin (rear wheel arches) I have put a coat of wax on, it still looks satin but has a bit of protection. That sounds good. If you can add a wax protection coat and retain the satin finish, ideal. I have two Golf wings to paint in the garage before I start on my car, so I'll be practising on those. I'm under no illusion that it's going to look perfect, but I can't justify £1500's worth of a professional paintjob on a jalopy that only cost five hundred quid. Besides, I quite like the old knackered look, just without the falling apart bit.  |
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Apr 23, 2007 22:56:17 GMT
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OK, but before you ruin a perfectly good satin paint job..... I think I experimented with a few finishes before I was happy  Definetly Autoglym. Might have been the Ultra Deep Shine stuff...? I think it was just the Extra Gloss Protection. I know I used my polisher as well to get the residue off. I guess what I'm trying to say is do a test piece first  |
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You CAN paint and a vehicle in MATT paint and it will NOT absorb mosture and thus rust providing... You go over the vehicle a week or so later with an 'oily rag'. What I have done with Military vehciles in the past after painting a Jeep/bike/land Rover in matt Green/olive drab is go over the vehicle with a rag soaked in old engine oil and a bit of diesel. Then after doing this go over with a dryer rag and it will give a nice 'satin finish' to the vehicle however the finish now will be more durable than a original 'satin finish' so to speak. Also if you go over the oilly paint with the 'dryer rag' then in future you can just wash the vehicle as normal and only re-oil the paint every 3 months (as you say if polishing a 'normal' finish). |
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LowStandards
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You could feck about doing all that or you could use a matt 2-pack lacquer, seals and makes the matt even duller!
Now stop pi**ing about and get it done! ;p
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^ 2-pack!  Do not, DO NOT go using 2-pack at home/in a residential area it is very dangerous (cyanide based!). You need correct breathing apparatus and fume extraction equipment (as per a proper spray shop etc.) As for anybody who sprays this stuff in a residential area/ where people are generally milling about then it would be nothing short of irresponsible. Please be careful! |
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LowStandards
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Take it somewhere proper then, if you don't want curse word paint, its a must!
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Apr 24, 2007 10:15:23 GMT
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I use Hammerite BBQ paint. Thats matt and pretty sure its tough and weatherproof cos its for exterior bbq's. Plus it dries super quick and its high temp resistant. I used it on my Capri bonnet a while back no worries but not sure about the long term effects cos I sold it a few months later. But Satin is nice too |
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Bibby
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Apr 24, 2007 12:32:44 GMT
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I have no intention of using 2-pack, nor do I intend to spray.
Rollers and brushes it is.
Cheers for the tip on the oily rag, will give it a whirl!
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LowStandards
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Apr 24, 2007 14:18:59 GMT
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Brush the 2-pack on then? when did we all become girls ;p
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Bibby
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Apr 24, 2007 16:20:21 GMT
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Brush the 2-pack on then? when did we all become girls ;p I'm looking for information on using matt paint, not a debate on whether the use of specific materials may or may not determine one's gender. If you have any useful information on the topic, please bring it forward. Don't ruin my thread please. |
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B-8-D
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Apr 24, 2007 17:33:56 GMT
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cheep blackboard paint from focus.. then one of those small size rollers.... then the oily rag trick..... DONE! si |
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Last Edit: Apr 24, 2007 17:34:18 GMT by B-8-D
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