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Apr 16, 2007 21:42:31 GMT
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Hi guys. Hoping you can help. My girlfriend has fallen rather usually for Capris. I always had her down as a Mini person but it appears Capris are the one. She isn't bothered about power. Which are the cheapest to insure for a 17 year old fine young lady? I was thinking mk3 1.6 Laser? Where do they rot? What should I look out for? What are they like to live with, and on the juice? Are they easy to fix? And, just how slow is a 1.6 Laser? Inspirational pics welcomed as ever. thanks.  |
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Apr 16, 2007 21:46:27 GMT
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That 1.3 mk2 beige thing that pog found in ebay thread will be cheapest  If your good lady wants one then don't stop her but I doubt its teh easiest thing to get used to as a first/ish car.  its damn cool, The 1.6 is surprisingly fast (from experience of a lead footed mate), they don't do loads to gallon, and are ins grp 13 or summat but are classic policy eligible. my 2p,, Do it! |
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts  |
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Apr 16, 2007 21:51:00 GMT
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group 13? eek.
i think like a mk4 'Tina would be all round cheaper, but she seems persuaded.
1.3, that would be woefully slow surely?
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Apr 16, 2007 21:53:26 GMT
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1.3, that would be woefully slow surely? No. Slower!! ;D |
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Apr 16, 2007 21:57:42 GMT
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do some quotes I'd say, for ME the 1.6 cortina worked out £100 cheaper than the Sierra 1.8 and £150 less tahn the MR2 so classic 'forgotten' status helps try usual specialists where poss, do pass plus, limit miles, add imobiliser. owt you can till it falls. she (and you) could always do one up while get her first years no claims in a polo mk2 1.0 or summat, small cheap and hassle free |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Apr 16, 2007 22:00:48 GMT
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atm she's on her mums 03 1.4 Polo's insurnace with her L plates. A years NCB on there might help. Maybe, this is the perfect time for me to exercise my EXTREME Metro love? |
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tigran
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Capris. General info please.tigran
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Apr 16, 2007 22:07:32 GMT
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This could be costly insurance-wise. On the note of which ones to buy - look for one without a sunroof - far likelier to have no/little rot on the sills. The inner wings is the other place they love to rot, as is under the driver's seat.
Just be warned that even with a shagged 2.0 and an auto my capri was still a bit dangerous in the wet.
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Apr 16, 2007 22:15:11 GMT
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noice choice!! mk3 1.6 definately is the way to go, they aren't as slow as you'd think either. usual places to check for rot are strut tops, scuttle,and rear spring hangers, where they mount on the chassis. then theres the obvious archs, but thats easy stuff. well cheap for replacement parts too, usually a lot cheaper for upgrade parts anyhoo! as for pics for inspiration, mine started life as a mk3 1.6...  |
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Apr 16, 2007 22:38:12 GMT
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got quotes around £1000 to £1200 for F, 18, DH9 postcode, 1971 1600GT capri. Mk3 lazer pushed it up by £1000! so we bought a mk1 GT as an economy measure (saves £160odd tax too!) BTW, when a woman wants a capri, you cant change her mind. I got months of sulking for selling my mk3 lazer (and a bollocking for fitting an 18 TD engine to it as well.)  Must take some more photos of it... will be working on it soon, so I'll do a thread then. |
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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coxy
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Apr 16, 2007 22:51:01 GMT
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Here is an inspriational pic of how not to do it! Spotted this last week in Budapest!  My dad bought a 1971 Capri new back in '71, reg number TUJ707J. It was a 1.6GT in Mustardy Yellow! Superb Car!! |
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Apr 16, 2007 23:33:26 GMT
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Well honest to say, i love my MK1 capri, and it doesn't look THAT good, so you need to cater for your girlfriends needs, as it will make your life easier and her happier.
But if you think she will accept any other subsitute, then you misunderstood. I have dumped boyfriends beacuse they were not impressed with my MK1, so be very wary!
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Apr 16, 2007 23:57:33 GMT
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Good fun car the Capri. I'd recommend a 1.6 Mk 1 if you can find a good one. If not then a 1.6 Mk 3.
Look out for: RUST RUST RUST. Rear arches, strut mounts, sills, and if it has rust around the windscreen then walk away (particularly with sunroof models).
Parts availability is very good in general but specific body trim can be both hard and expensive to replace (particularly on Mk1's)
Driving wise, it is fun - but they are very back end happy! NO REALLY REALLY back end happy. The best way to explain it is that any corner you go round you will be able to slip the back end out. Sounds good? Yes, once you know what you are doing. Not a car to race a "modern" car round any sort of bend.
My advice is to buy one and enjoy it for what it is - a 1970's car that won't match a modern car in terms of speed, handling, fuel consumption, or rust resiliance. But it does beat any modern car in styling!
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Oh I forgot to mention that they are, like any other Ford of the time, very easy to steal.
Invest in a good alarm and never, ever, forget to use a visible anti theft device - Stoplock, Disklock etc...
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when my ex got her first car, we couldnt find a company that would give her a limited milage classic policy untill she had been driving three years, so she ended up on a tesco policy which was good value but 3 time the price of a classic one.
she has a mk1 escort but always liked capris, so when we wanted to pinto her escort we bought a 2 litre of ebay and she drove it around for a few months till the tax and test ran out, so we got a good idea if the lump and suspension, brakes etc were ok.
couple of things to note here, my ex was 5'2" and needed a cushion to sit on to see over the bonnet, and the rear visibilty is also poor if your short, so it will be hard work to park, especially as a povo spec one wont have power steering.
it might be better to have a normal car for a few years till you can get a classic policy, then she could have a 2.8 for the same insurance cost probably.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Putting a 17 year old woman on the road in a RWD car, that's sure to be good  |
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Apr 17, 2007 10:13:14 GMT
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Cant say much that hasnt already been said but though I might as well seeing as I`ve had one for the past 9 years, with a break in the middle where my mate had it for a couple of years. It was my first car.
1.6 Laser is the best choice out of them all in this case, they`re the most recent and easy to get hold of, mostly Cologne built so a bit more rust resistant, as said they`re not particularily slow and can easily be warmed up later on, mechanically a piece of p*ss, I had a gearbox swapped in mine in 20 minutes (with a ramp). Only thing you`ve got to remember is that even the 1.6 is not very forgiving of bad driving and an inexperienced driver who makes a wrong move can find that things get out of hand pretty quickly. The only things I`ve found hard to get hold of are finnickly little trim items like uncracked fascias and rheostat switches that I personally couldnt give a toss about but the concours bunch are willing to spend fortunes on.
The beige 1.3 on ebay is the wrong choice for two reasons: 1) its not exactly ready to roll
2) I`m the high bidder!
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Darrel
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Apr 17, 2007 11:20:57 GMT
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Hmm well I had a fair few Capris when I was 17/18. They were ten a penny then. Started off with a 1.6, had a 2.0 Laser (Full x-pack bodykit), 3.0 Ghia, A Stunning JPS Special and finally a 2.8i Brooklands Ltd edition which was the last of them. Out of them I would have to say my Favourite was the 1.6. It drove the nicest and wasnt slow by any means. However they are not the easiest to drive. My "friend" wrote off my Brooklands by hitting Pevensey castel at 50mph BACKWARDS in the wet. In the wet even the 1.6 can be pretty scary. They were not the most forgiving of RWD cars. However I would never put anyone off of it as when driving that bulge in the bonnet is fantastic. Definately worth having 1 years of expensive insurance to say you just owned one before the prices go through the roof. Strut tops wise they certainly used to be the worst place they rotted, but now a few years down the line I would say usual sills arches etc.
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Apr 17, 2007 11:34:07 GMT
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get her in to something like this  |
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Darrel
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Apr 17, 2007 11:49:03 GMT
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Is that a Zakspeed?
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Apr 17, 2007 12:14:28 GMT
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"by hitting Pevensey castel "
Was the castle ok? ;D
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its damn cool, The 1.6 is surprisingly fast (from experience of a lead footed mate), they don't do loads to gallon, and are ins grp 13 or summat but are classic policy eligible. my 2p,, Do it!
