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I'll stick this up here and see how we go. After a week of haggling, we've finally agreed a price today. Sorry, the pics are from the advert. I won't get it home until Saturday/Sunday.   It's, as said above, a 1995 4.6 HSE and probably has more faults showing on the message centre than are known to man. It's had a lash up conversion to coils which isn't helping much, so the initial plan of action is:- Buy some tools. All I have is my venerable Britool socket set which is still in Kuala Lumpur until I can collect it and anyway, we all like to buy lots of tools, right? Expensively, I have a rather dead good tool shop just across the road from my apartment. See what suspension bits are left. From a very quick look, I think that compressor, valve block, etc., are all still there so hopefully, with some new bags, we can resurrect it all. Yeah, right. It'll be butchered to hell and be a nightmare. Buy an OBD2 reader that can reset the suspension and clear the faults that are software related so we can see what we're left with. The ABS is showing a fault but this could be tied back to the suspension issue. Time will tell. Get some remote keys bought. It's only got the emergency key at the moment. New exhaust. Probably have to get this fabricated, so may as well go stainless throughout. Full service - all fluids and filters. God knows when this was last done. If this was new to the Philippines, the service history will be measured in minutes. If it's a US import and I think they all were, we may stand a chance. Get some 16" wheels to give me some tyre choice. That'll do for starters. Once those are out of the way,I can look at how I want to take it. Now, bear in mind there is only one Land Rover dealer in the Philippines therefore 99% of parts I need will have to be couriered from the US or Australia some may wonder why I've bought this. Well, it's a challenge, I don't need a daily at the moment so can spend the time getting it right and I love the P38. Sad, I know. On the plus side, the body is pretty tidy and the paint looks good, apart from the driver’s seat which needs feeding, the interior is very tidy, the engine makes all the right noises and the box shifts well in both high and low range. So a good basis for a sweet motor in time I think. There's one or two small interior plasticky trim parts that need replacing and they could be a challenge but the rest should all be mechanical/electrical so do-able. Famous last words! |
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Oct 10, 2013 14:14:27 GMT
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Nice! I do like a P38, in the right colour & wheels. Hope the aircons working! ;-)
orrp.info is a good place to ask questions, although you need a bit of a thick skin over there!
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Oct 10, 2013 15:37:42 GMT
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These are great cars, and the air suspension is great (When it's working), Although i will warn you that a cheapish OBD2 Reader won't do much in the way of suspension problems. (Speaking from experience), I've used a snap-on Solace machine on one of these without much luck.
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Oct 10, 2013 16:12:20 GMT
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I've been looking at one of these today myself. It's a lovely car and only £2k, which seems like a remarkable amount of car for the money. I'll be watching to see how things go with this.  |
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Oct 10, 2013 21:06:48 GMT
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Nice! I do like a P38, in the right colour & wheels. Hope the aircons working! ;-) orrp.info is a good place to ask questions, although you need a bit of a thick skin over there! Aircon seems OK and much needed here. Probably one of the least of its problems! RangeRovers.net is good too. |
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Oct 10, 2013 21:09:10 GMT
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These are great cars, and the air suspension is great (When it's working), Although i will warn you that a cheapish OBD2 Reader won't do much in the way of suspension problems. (Speaking from experience), I've used a snap-on Solace machine on one of these without much luck. That's why first job is seeing what's still there and getting the bits ro ressurect it. I'm looking at the TekPro3000 from Atlantic British and am assured that once I've refitted bags etc, it will clear the faults and I can reset the suspension. We'll see! |
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Oct 10, 2013 21:22:40 GMT
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I've been looking at one of these today myself. It's a lovely car and only £2k, which seems like a remarkable amount of car for the money. I'll be watching to see how things go with this. 2K? I wish! There are very few 38s here and only between '96 and '97, nothing later. That means there's a bit (OK, a lot)of a "Rarity Tax" on them but that seems normal for British cars here. He wanted 9 grand for this and I got him down to five eight in the end because of the faults. The next cheapest one I've seen is a '97 at 12k  If it's a goodun at 2, you can't go far wrong?  Going to sign on the dotted line this morning and have been warned it can take up to two weeks for the paperwork transfer to complete, so not sure when I can pick it up yet. Still, I can go tool shopping while I wait! |
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Oct 10, 2013 22:03:02 GMT
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)2K? I wish! There are very few 38s here and only between '96 and '97, nothing later. That means there's a bit (OK, a lot)of a "Rarity Tax" on them but that seems normal for British cars here. He wanted 9 grand for this and I got him down to five eight in the end because of the faults. The next cheapest one I've seen is a '97 at 12k Good god, sensing a business opportunity here how much is there to pay if you import one personally |
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Oct 10, 2013 22:59:18 GMT
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A bleedin' fortune!!
Trying to import motors into Phils and many other Asian countries is an absolute minefield of taxes, duties and bent officialdom. It really isn't worth the hassle. If it was, I'd have done it!! The Philippine customs duties are on their website, but the physical removal of the car from the port can cost much, much more than that. Especially if you are a "rich white guy" aka Mobile ATM. Which we all are, right?
The 2k RR that Mark mentioned, would wind up being way more expensive than mine by the time you got it out of customs, if you ever did of course. Many examples here of an imported vehicle taking the fancy of an official, never to be seen again.
Other issue with Philippines is that they won't allow import of right hookers. They are verboten here, it's LHD only.
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Oct 10, 2013 23:12:19 GMT
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Cool car, and by the sounds of it a terrible system you have to deal with!
My 4.6 HSE recently rolled over 200k, and it still going strong.... love it!
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Cool car, and by the sounds of it a terrible system you have to deal with! My 4.6 HSE recently rolled over 200k, and it still going strong.... love it! Trust me, there are some very attactive  fringe benefits to living here! 200k? Going well. |
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Just been up the garage to sort some paperwork out and had a quick EAS gander. As far as I can tell, everyting's still there except the compressor and bags. Looks lines lines, tank, wiring and all, including the valve block are still there. Obviously need a better look when I get it home but promising.
Frustrating as well because I can't collect it until the official paperwork has gone through and that could be 2-4 weeks! Ah well.
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Oct 11, 2013 22:26:24 GMT
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So, a couple of the attractive fringe benefits popped up last night. I was sitting with the Mrs in one of the more expensive Makati bars drinking my 60 pee a bottle beer (this was just before happy hour, when its 30p) when the phone rang. It was the insurance company with a quote. 18,000 Pesos. Sounds a lot, but works out at 260 quid fully comp including flood and typhoon damage. Seems reasonable to me!
When you couple that with road tax of about 25 quid a year and fuel at 67p a litre, or liter as we should spell it, we're looking at cheap motoring. After I've spent a fortune on getting it right of course!
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Oct 21, 2013 22:54:35 GMT
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Got her home on Sunday all safe and sound. Despite 35 degrees and a huge jam (due to someone throwing themselves off a railway viaduct for a movie!) the gauge never moved from the middle and the air-con whipped up a storm. All the electrics work including seats, dipping mirrors etc., so that's okay. It's had a HID kit fitted at some point which looks a bit dodgy, so that'll need a going over.
The bad bits? Well, obviously it's on springs and I'd like it back on air, but grovelling around underneath shows a distinct lack of height sensors, so there's 400 quid for a start. The exhaust looks like it's the original and has finally given up the ghost with a hole in the centre box and several in the intermediate pipe. Unfortunately, I can't just walk into SlowFit and get one thrown on, so I'm looking at temporarily patching it up, just to quieten the thing down and then either, get one shipped from the states, try to get a stainless one made here or find an exhaust shop who can do a bit of mixing and matching. Trouble is that my Tagalog isn't yet up to "Hey up surry, can you bosh us some tube onto a big silencer, weld on the old hangers and bung it under there". So we'll have to see how that goes, might have to take the wife along for that one. Also the engine seemed a bit flat but looking at the air filter, I'm surprised it could breathe at all. I'll run without 'til I find one. It seems a lot happier!
Oh, and 4 new tyres won't go amiss.
At least the girls (Filipinas, 10 and 12) love it and can’t wait to show it off to their mates. They also didn’t believe that the seats were made from dead cow and were fascinated when I dug out a video showing the process to them. Lots of oohing and ahhing going on. I’ve just got to be careful they don’t decide they’re edible, as anything else that once walked, swam or flew is!
All in all not too shabby and should result in a tasty smoker without throwing the bank at it. I'm away in KL for the next few days but when I get back I'll get properly stuck in and try to get some pics up. Hopefully of her (the RR) sitting on a palm fringed beach!
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Not really related but I thought I'd share. Should be safe enough.
Got pulled over for the first time last night. Illegal left turn at some lights (remember they do it all the wrong way round here and I'm still getting used to it) and the copper was waiting just round the corner. Had to turn the engine off as a 4.6 V8 with a dodgy exhaust meant we couldn’t hear each other. Love it.
Not too bad, 200 Pesos and a serious vanishing trick into a top pocket later, made it all go away with a smile. That’s around 3 quid!
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Oct 25, 2013 20:29:03 GMT
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There are a few units I know they recommend you plug in and will sort the suspension out, Have no idea of the name or couldn't recommend one though !.
Hopefully you'll have luck with the TekPro, The only machines i've seen used on these with much luck is the Range rovers own system (Rover com i think its called), Although them machines will set you back a few grand !
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There are a few units I know they recommend you plug in and will sort the suspension out, Have no idea of the name or couldn't recommend one though !. Hopefully you'll have luck with the TekPro, The only machines i've seen used on these with much luck is the Range rovers own system (Rover com i think its called), Although them machines will set you back a few grand ! Yes, I could trick the BECM into forgetting it's on coils, but longer term is to go back to air. I also need to fool it into thinking all the lights work as well as the HID conversion obviously worries it. Poor pet. Yes, let's hope the TekPro lives up to its advertising. Trouble is, as work haven’t finalised my employment letter, I can’t open a local bank account and as anyone using a Malaysian credit card wanting delivery to a Manila address is obviously a money laundering terrorist, I can’t order anything from overseas. Next week, hopefully. Anyways up, back in Manila now and after having to open my suitcase at the airport so that they could see what that large suspicious metal object was. Well, it's a socket set of course; doesn't everyone cart them around in their luggage? First job was exhaust. I'd contacted around 6 or 7 places before leaving for KL, including the single LR dealer and 99% of them never even replied. However, two weeks after a "we call you back today" one did indeed call back, albeit after 15 days! "We found one". Top dollar, will pick up in the morning. When I arrived, I could see why it took two weeks of looking for. What a bleedin' shambles the place was. Stuff dumped all over, all manual systems (otherwise known as books). Like going back 50 years. I'll be using them again as the guy speaks reasonable English and was super helpful. If slow! So, exhaust fitting time. Now the RAVE manual states very clearly that this is a two man job to be carried out on a hoist. Not a singleton, on his back in a basement parking lot with around one bulb per 100sqm and a headlight. What a palaver. Oh, and the jack had no oil in it. And it's 35 degrees down there and around 1000% humidity so long stints result literally in lying in a pool of water all of your own making. On the first day, not thinking, I cracked on with removal and only just made it back upstairs to the apartment, where I promptly collapsed. Hmm, need to take it slower and have plenty of water next time. She's lovely and quiet now and so, just out of spite, has developed an occasional misfire. Took it for a quick Italian tune-up yesterday and it's a little better but the plug leads are shot, so a new set will be acquired. Hoping to get up to Subic Bay soon for a short run and will get those promised beach photos. Oh, and the LR dealer did get back to me. Not about the exhaust, but to tell me that they could get a replacement remote key for a mere 30,000 Pesos. That's 434 of your Great British Pounds. I'll live without for now. |
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Nov 16, 2013 11:46:46 GMT
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"She's lovely and quiet now and so, just out of spite, has developed an occasional misfire. Took it for a quick Italian tune-up yesterday and it's a little better but the plug leads are shot, so a new set will be acquired."
Poor deluded fool. That was six days ago and I've just tracked a set down. E-mail said, yes sir, we have and are open Mon-Sat. Jumped in the motor this morning and headed up to Quezon City along the nightmare that is EDSA. Arrive at 10am to find youth of around 13-14 there. Tried to explain what I'd come for. All I could get back was, "Boss Man back at 12". Oh, well, never mind.
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Nov 20, 2013 23:53:17 GMT
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Right, Wednesday, let's try for those leads again. Out onto that meandering delight that is Epifanio de los Santos Avenue. Otherwise known as EDSA which at any time of day makes the M25 at rush hour look like Silverstone. It is the most (over)crowded thoroughfare in a city famed for its overcrowded roads.
Google maps, without a hint of embarrassment, will tell you that from my place in Makati to his place in Quezon City is an inconsequential 13.8km that can be undertaken in a mere 21 minutes. Well maybe at 3o'clock in the morning, although I'm not too sure even about that, but at 10:30 on a Wednesday it just shaded two hours. And that was one way.
"Morning boss, I mailed this morning saying I was coming for the HT leads".
"Ah yes, Sir George. I'll get my boy to go and fetch them. Please sit"
An hour passed.
"Ah, Sir George, my boy get there and no-one in, so cannot" followed quickly by "but we deliver later today to your house"
OK, seems reasonable. Two hours back to Makati. No leads last night, but a mail saying "You get today".
Leave house at 10:30, drive two hours, wait one hour, drive two hours, average 7.5kph. Arrived back just in time to say "plums, it's beer time!
On another forum, a guy was complaining that it was taking him two days to get RR parts. Me? I'd give a kidney for that level of availability!
To be fair, "Christine" kept me amused during the run. Every now and again the rear wiper would activate, then the fronts came out in sympathy and randomly do a desultory sweep of the screen. The the interior light decided to join in and would intermittantly flicker. All good fun, methinks some wiring to investigate. The Missus (in all seriousness)blames a ghost.
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Last Edit: Nov 20, 2013 23:55:20 GMT by georgeb
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fringe benefits to living here! 200k? Going well. 