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OK Amigos.......... Let's see some confessions.Went to bed at 01.30 after various chats with friends in Texas, Missouri and Oklahoma as well as my wife's daughter in California. At 06.15 there was a furry thing walking all over me, purring and demanding breakfast. So the lesson really is, unless you have no animals, don't go to sleep so late. With me awake, I sorted the three cats out, they all have different breakfasts WTF..? And a tower of dry food for their grazing through the day. Cuppa tea in hand I checked out the various sites and also Summit Racing's website....... Get me drift yet? Tea done, I went down to the garage in my slippers and a dressing gown (well, it's chilly, so I needed the woolly slippers) But only after setting the oven at 200'C I removed all the masking and plugging from threads, then with gloves on, brought the heads up to the house one at a time. I hear some of you already clearing your throats and shuffling uncomfortably in your chairs. Some, probably the brave and stupid, which is where I fit in....... Knows what next. I managed to just get both heads balanced in the preheated oven with the door completely shut to heat cure the VHT paint for an hour. And in they went. After about 30 minutes it started to smell like a race track in the lounge where I was reading..... So I went into the kitchen to find a light haze of smoke. Easy fix...... Open all the outer doors and windows to the kitchen and rear of the house, isolate from the rest of the house. After the hour, I turned off the heat and opened the oven door for the heads to cool down so I can take them back to the garage later. The place still smelled, but I will leave it all open for a while. Hopefully my next plate of Fish and oven chips does not taste like high mileage multi grade. And of course there will be a Yankee Candle burning in the kitchen most of today......... Mrs Boss is back home in the morning. Took the heads back to the garage, swept the floor, tidied up and also removed all the masking from the book and then proceeded to oil up all the bores, with repeated cranking over to spread a thin film while removing excess, also wiped over the cleaned up mating surfaces. Am I pleased....? You bet.
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Last Edit: Feb 28, 2016 11:07:21 GMT by grizz
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At least you didn't "clean" the heads with WD40 before putting them in the oven, that would've been stupid.. I'm mean, who does that kind of thing?
I recently read someone putting the parts in one of those self-basting plastic bags for cooking turkeys, that keeps the smoke and smell well contained!
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Feb 28, 2016 12:33:02 GMT
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I like your baking skills. btw. a little anecdote of the great british humour my gf told me lately: she works in hospital and there was a british lady at the end of her pregnancy. Her last name was Time and she was already in her 40s. And what name did Mrs. Time chose for her new born son? Justin! Welcome on earth, Justin Time! I once knew a Justin Case, and yes, his Dad was called Edward, or just Ed............
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I like your baking skills. btw. a little anecdote of the great british humour my gf told me lately: she works in hospital and there was a british lady at the end of her pregnancy. Her last name was Time and she was already in her 40s. And what name did Mrs. Time chose for her new born son? Justin! Welcome on earth, Justin Time! Long time baker me........ Master Baker At least you didn't "clean" the heads with WD40 before putting them in the oven, that would've been stupid.. I'm mean, who does that kind of thing? I recently read someone putting the parts in one of those self-basting plastic bags for cooking turkeys, that keeps the smoke and smell well contained! Very clever the baking bags. I like your baking skills. btw. a little anecdote of the great british humour my gf told me lately: she works in hospital and there was a british lady at the end of her pregnancy. Her last name was Time and she was already in her 40s. And what name did Mrs. Time chose for her new born son? Justin! Welcome on earth, Justin Time! I once knew a Justin Case, and yes, his Dad was called Edward, or just Ed............ Lots of those names about. My friend in Searcy, Arkansas sent me this yesterday when he saw it. Badged as a Chevrolet, but of course we know it is an Isuzu of the time. Wonder what serious mischief it hides. Small body could do well if sorted right under the skin.
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Feb 29, 2016 10:19:23 GMT
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awesome
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Spotted the 4x4 style Camaro in the background of the first photo of the Chevy truck
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Looking great mate, that engine should purr like a kitten now it's being put together properly
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Badged as a Chevrolet, but of course we know it is an Isuzu of the time it looks like a Chevrolet LUV which was a rebadged "isuzu faster". i only know this as i was researching the UK model - bedford KB last week, which was of the same badge engineered origin. I was only zygote at the time of these vehicles but read that General motors owned 33% of isuzu, so it is kind of legit p.s baking parts is winning !
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Last Edit: Mar 1, 2016 20:28:22 GMT by darrenh
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awesome Thanks mate. Spotted the 4x4 style Camaro in the background of the first photo of the Chevy truck Yes, pretty typical for the area........ Arkansas. Looking great mate, that engine should purr like a kitten now it's being put together properly Thanks Mat, it am not sure about purring.... But as long as it fires up and is improved over its current status, I will be very happy. Badged as a Chevrolet, but of course we know it is an Isuzu of the time it looks like a Chevrolet LUV which was a rebadged "isuzu faster". i only know this as i was researching the UK model - bedford KB last week, which was of the same badge engineered origin. I was only zygote at the time of these vehicles but read that General motors owned 33% of isuzu, so it is kind of legit p.s baking parts is winning ! Darren, I think only real men use Spammy spam spam spam, no thank you, man. as they should, I am quite fortunate with Nicola though, she is understanding as well and tolerant.
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I posted some pics on FB over the weekend and a random guy asked me about the casting numbers etc. Fortunately Imhad taken some photos for Ian Brown as well over the weekend and showed them on FB. Within minutes he had posted the dates my heads were casted. This is why I love these forums so much. Looking forward to the rest of this rebuild and getting the motor back in the chassis.
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Two weeks since I saw my wife meant that this weekend would be restricted on the garage time, plus I have about 7 online modules with their associated tests to churn through, each demanding about 2 hours of my time. Monday sees the start of week four and a new subject........ At least I get to have some nice dinners out with colleagues, but of course that does not build an engine. So this morning I did my own ironing as she hates it, and I don't mind. Or something like that. Then cuppa tea, brekkie and off to the garage for a few hours. Today my objective was just to get the valves cleaned up and fully inspected. We knew one was sticky to get in and out, plus there was always the broken spring. Starting out with this lot..... Using a knife on the drill press to get the worst of the carbon off, followed by coarse sanding paper and then 400 wet n dry. Marked on the tops around the edge with a laser etched number SM EX-2590 Any ideas about the numbers? Then the big guys..... And on the face they had GM and a T punched in. Anyone got any ideas on their age if this has any relevance...? Weird how quickly two hours flew by, standing here. All done in the end. Showed Nicola these and her response........ ? Why don't you just buy some new ones ?? Next up........ Onto Summit Racing website and order a few bits.
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Last Edit: Mar 5, 2016 21:34:27 GMT by grizz
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Yeah, why don´t you just buy some new ones??? That would just be too easy......... And to be honest, I rather like the idea of having $150.00 jangling about in my virtual pocket. The thing is, where do you draw the line...?
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Well, that depends. My parents used to draw a line through the cheque once it was filled out so that it couldn't be added to? Some people draw a line through their signature, which could be on a credit card payment for new shiny bits?
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I think it would depend on serviceability (because I'm tight).
If a little bit of elbow grease can restore them, and they'll most likely live on for many more years as they are, that gets my nod. If it's just a stop-gap, and they're going to break in due course, upgrade now. That way you don't have to take the truck off the road in the future, when $xx now could save a pricier rebuild in the future.
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Yeah, that deep in the engine, I'd rather have new bits so I don't have to go back in again.
But then again... if you have to pull it apart again, that's more entertaining reading for me...
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Valves - should cleanup ok, check where the stem 'flows' into the head , any pitting / damage - "when in doubt chuck it out"...
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Well, that depends. My parents used to draw a line through the cheque once it was filled out so that it couldn't be added to? Some people draw a line through their signature, which could be on a credit card payment for new shiny bits? I only live by one fiscal rule...... If it is in my pocket and I do not owe it to anyone else, then I can spend it. Only real cash, outside of the mortgage and bills. The truck has its own bank account, I keep no records of what I spend on it, except this thread, so I will be able to add up the costs roughly, should I choose to sell it. But generally one does not make money on most old cars, they are a hobby and distraction, and possibly a passion. So, any money I can keep jangling in my pocket, is a good thing. I think it would depend on serviceability (because I'm tight). If a little bit of elbow grease can restore them, and they'll most likely live on for many more years as they are, that gets my nod. If it's just a stop-gap, and they're going to break in due course, upgrade now. That way you don't have to take the truck off the road in the future, when $xx now could save a pricier rebuild in the future. I agree totally with you, this is the reason my truck, that was meant to be off he road for 4 months, has turned into a full nut and bolt rebuild with everything from steering, brakes, brake lines etc, being renewed, replaced or rebuilt. This engine was definitely built to a decent standard 10 years ago when it came into the UK, it has not done a load of miles, but there were other places where major hodges were committed that I have to put right one at a time, as time and finances allow me, while living a reasonably normal life with my wife. So clean up, inspect and replace or refit is the motto. Yeah, that deep in the engine, I'd rather have new bits so I don't have to go back in again. But then again... if you have to pull it apart again, that's more entertaining reading for me... Good call on the entertainment. This build has developed my head soooo much, and guys like Martin, Paul Y, Ian Brown and Darren Hardy as well as others who are not laying hands on it, but advising from a distance, have all helped me grow. Yeah, why don´t you just buy some new ones??? To make this clear: I wasn´t laughing at Nicola´s ignorance or naivety as some might guess, therefor I respect her too much. I was just imagining the situation: grizz shows her the results of his work proud like a stone age man presenting some self hunted food. And instead of Wow, well done or anything like that, the reaction was simply as we know it! But as we know from this very thread, in the end the car will certainly not need a sticker like Bought not built! You are right. And regarding Nicolas comment, it was rather to show her support of my madness, encouraging me to spend money, as she knows I do turn over my pennies before spending them. She has never stopped me doing stuff. And as far as her history is concerned, having had two older brothers who would assemble complete motorbikes in their bedrooms over winter, she knows her 13mm from her 7/8" and her Allen key from her Phillips. I think she is often just a lot more pragmatic than me. Valves - should cleanup ok, check where the stem 'flows' into the head , any pitting / damage - "when in doubt chuck it out"... I inspected and cleaned them one by one, used a mirror to ensure conformity and straightness. I have ordered only one valve to replace the damaged one.
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Last Edit: Mar 7, 2016 21:18:53 GMT by grizz
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I am looking forward to putting it together and seeing your first burn out! P.
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Well, after much talk, I pulled the trigger tonight. I ended up replacing only one valve, as the others on cleanup and inspection all seemed to pass muster easily. I also managed to get a $25.00 discount on my order before checkout which is reflected in the pics below. This was thanks to "Flashed" in Canton, Georgia USA offering me his discount code for orders, so thanks for the saving buddy. Now here is a lesson for those who do not know it........... I have always used either guys like Steve Lang who charges a Dollar for Pound to bring in stuff, you would be hard pushed to match that yourself, so I will continue to use him in future as his service is exemplary. Then I also use my friends like Ta2Don to pick up and post out little bits for me, like the brake rebuild kits, paying him the item and postage costs via PayPal. This time however, with Paul Y's advice and encouragement, I investigated Summit Racing's other option....... It is called i-parcel and is a system where you pay postage or shipping and duties up front rather than paying the taxes to the couriers, or a handling fee plus duties to the Post Office. If you look at the shipping costs, excluding taxes oon the photo, you will see that this seems to be a sensible route to go. So I have ordered a few bits that we need to rebuild the motor better. ( I will be selling my existing camshaft and followers once the motor is rebuilt) Hopefully the rebuild will nett us as close as possible to Summits claimed 280 bhp on these parts. So now just need to wait for the parts to make their way over here, and then get a date over a weekend that suits Paul Y to come do/supervise the rebuild. Happy man tonight.
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I am looking forward to putting it together and seeing your first burn out! P. Bad bad influence......
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