tigran
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Thanks Mr Nightmaretigran
@tigran
Club Retro Rides Member 142
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Feb 26, 2007 18:03:32 GMT
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Sorry repeat again, why are people wasting time with the goofster in question? He's only here to cause some stirrage - he seems to be doing fairly well.
Anyhoo what were we talking about? classic escort monthly, thassit...
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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Feb 26, 2007 18:06:20 GMT
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I wondered how this thread had reached three pages!
To be honest supercover is very well informed, but exactly what is the point of telling us? We already know most of it...especially Nightmares - if he thought that Cortinas were perfect then why does he never leave one untouched? ;D
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Feb 26, 2007 18:24:18 GMT
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I wondered how this thread had reached three pages! To be honest supercover is very well informed, but exactly what is the point of telling us? We already know most of it...especially Nightmares - if he thought that Cortinas were perfect then why does he never leave one untouched? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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loon
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Feb 26, 2007 20:36:49 GMT
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I wondered how this thread had reached three pages! To be honest supercover is very well informed, but exactly what is the point of telling us? We already know most of it...especially Nightmares - if he thought that Cortinas were perfect then why does he never leave one untouched? ;D good call rmad ;D he still hasn't told us what he drives now can we put this one to bed before he spits his dummy out again
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what the fcuk have you done lately
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Feb 27, 2007 11:21:16 GMT
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Sorry repeat again, why are people wasting time with the goofster in question? He's only here to cause some stirrage - he seems to be doing fairly well. Anyhoo what were we talking about? classic escort monthly, thassit... Exactly - and hasn't it got you all going! "Classic Escort" is about right; when did you last see a really nicely modded sixties/early seventies Mustang - a car which deserves the title of 'Classic Ford' more than any Escort or Cortina. It was an okay formula 5-10 years ago but it's just the same old stuff month after month after month. There are plenty of them over here - and you really don't want to know about them, right? The Sierra is now 25 years old and seems to be practically forgotten about which is a bit of an injustice.
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Feb 27, 2007 11:42:29 GMT
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A "Classic Mustang" is just a glorified sports Falcon. If you've driven an Aussie or American Falcon or Fairlane of similar vintage, you'll find they're near identical in most if not all aspects. The Mustang was never a fantastic car, yet it sold in great numbers, as did the Escorts and Cortinas of their day, they're well remembered and that's what makes them "Classic".
It seems you dislike your local market more than anything, of course there were other cars that were perhaps more deserving than their competitors of the day, but it all comes down to marketing and popularity. I fail to see what having a dig at peoples aesthetic choices of today would do to stop any of these trivial injustices you seem to be endaevouring to correct.
It seems you know a little about a few cars here and there but your specifics are a bit lacking, perhaps if you hung about here and read and enjoyed the variety of what's about and what's appreciated, you'd learn a bit more. A simple one to point out would be that, the 510 wasn't replaced by the B210, oddly enough the B210 replaced the B110 and the 510 was replaced by the 610.
Again, let me re-iterate, of course there were cars better than other cars of the same period, there had to be, there's manufacturers all over the globe attempting to compete for the same market. Trying to make people aware of this or unaware of other's, is a waste of time, enjoy what you enjoy and ignore the rest.
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Skyline: 1963 - 1973 - 1983 Sunny: 1982 450SLC: 1973 Navara: 1992 Gloria: 1992
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Feb 27, 2007 11:51:20 GMT
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The Sierra is now 25 years old and seems to be practically forgotten about which is a bit of an injustice. I think you're wrong there actually...the Sierra has loads of followers - but the majority of them are only interested in the performance models: The Cosworth or maybe the XR4. Much like you consider the Escort Mexico and Lotus Cortina acceptable, but not the lesser varieties. On RR there's lots of talk about povo-spec Sierras and not building ex-rep 2 doors into preficable Cossie replicas. I you want to discuss Sierras (and not just the obvious performance versions) then you've come to the right place. Once again I find myself impressed by your knowledge, but confused about why it is used (apparently) negatively. Can I ask some questions to try and help my understanding?: Do you like classic cars - Despite their univerally known shortcomings? Do you like this forum? Would you consider yourself a 'troll'? What do you drive currently? You don't have to answer...but I'm intrigued to see the answers if you do. The questions are genuine and not an attempt to retaliate, wind up or 'stir'. Thanks! ;D
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Feb 27, 2007 12:19:33 GMT
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To answer your questions; I've got nothing special as a car BUT I have the horn for this: God knows why, but................ Troll? No, just a smartarse! Classic cars? In the last 10-15 years, two Cooper S Minis (the real one, not that ghastly BMW turd), a Mark 2 3.4 Jaguar, what is reckoned to be the oldest BL Princess (built in 9.74, six months before launch - it was a prototype), a 2 litre Ghia Crapi. Old cars, new cars, whatever. But I've never been one to put on rose trint specs and see something for what it wasn't. Yes the Mustang was based on a Falcon chassis in the same way the Capri was a collection of Mark 2 Cortina and Escort bits. As for mags I only buy Classic and Sportscar - 'Crassic Fraud' doesn't view its audience to be sufficiently broad minded to have an interest in any Ford that was built outside the UK which is absolutely insane. Have you seen how wicked a US Pinto can look with the early slim bumpers and chromed slots? Do you know that a 23m Taunus Coupe looks like? As for the Sierra - too many Cosworths have been horribly mutilated. Are there any bog standard three doors left? I regularly see a Y plate 16L complete with the dustbin lid wheeltrims in very good condition with a fossil at the controls, probably had it from new. That to me is as interesting as a Cosworth - does that make me a sad deviant?
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Last Edit: Feb 27, 2007 12:20:33 GMT by supercover
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Feb 27, 2007 12:36:52 GMT
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I agree with you on the classic ford issue. I don't think it covers enough of the range. You know that next months cover will probably feature some 'cossie' powered 70's ford. It would be nice to see a mk2 consul or zodiac or similar.
I guess i'm at the age where I still don't consider 70s cars to be true classics. Liking the 3 door standard Sierra as much as the cosworth doesn't make you sad but wanting a Princess does! ;D
There is nothing wrong with being a smartarse but its best to let people on here get to know you first so people know your having a laugh. Just don't take the p7ss out of Humbers!
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Last Edit: Feb 27, 2007 12:41:44 GMT by mitch
'82 944 Lhasa green
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Feb 27, 2007 12:48:51 GMT
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does that make me a sad deviant? No, that's makes you one of us. ps. I think most of us know about Taunii (surely, that must be the plural of Taunus!) and Pintos (the car, not just the engine). This certainly is not a Classic Ford forum. Don't underestimate the knowledge of the members on here either: retrorides.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1164446063Do you know what? I have a feeling that if you stick around you might just like it here! ;D
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Feb 27, 2007 13:42:09 GMT
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As for the Sierra - too many Cosworths have been horribly mutilated. Are there any bog standard three doors left? Yes, at least one.
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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Feb 27, 2007 13:43:12 GMT
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Just don't take the p7ss out of Humbers! What like the Humber Septic? Whoops, there I go again:D Sorry, it's gotta be a four lamp Imperial or Super Snipe to get me moist...........
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Feb 27, 2007 13:45:27 GMT
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I did have a 1961 Sunbeam Rapier........25 years ago. Bloody hell, I'm OLD.
Storm grey with the red flash and as rotten as a pig. TFX400, R.I.P. Twin Strombergs and the polished alloy rocker cover with a flip cap for the oil. Lovely!
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Feb 27, 2007 13:47:49 GMT
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Please don't tell me Humbers make you moist, thats just wrong! As for the Taunus 23m, i had a Dinky toy of one as a kid, wasn't a coupe though.
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'82 944 Lhasa green
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Feb 27, 2007 13:56:27 GMT
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Looks like a Series i Sceptre there - or is she a Vogue/Super Minx??
The early Sceptres had the most superb dash of any sixties car, all sculpted black vinylness and Smith gauges - the 1600E had nothing on these!
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Feb 27, 2007 14:04:11 GMT
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Its a mk2 Sceptre, your right about the dash although it nearly put me off buying it, too modern looking for me, i prefer the basicness of the Super Minx.
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'82 944 Lhasa green
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Feb 27, 2007 14:17:47 GMT
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Its a mk2 Sceptre, your right about the dash although it nearly put me off buying it, too modern looking for me, I prefer the basicness of the Super Minx. Noooo! Hughes scrapyard in Bicester had a 1964 Convertible Super Minx. It sat around the back of the office for 25 years rotting away and 3 years ago was dragged into the main yard. It's long gone now. The only Rootes car I had apart from the Rapier was a Hillman Imp Rallye (998). Well sort of - I bought the Imp, an 875 Imp Super in 1985 fopr £20 with the most perfect, mint shell ever. All it needed was a T Cut with a mop. Shame about the head gasket - it had let go and the clown kept going, destroying the engine. I bought a C plate red Imp Rallye for £80 which was rotten but was a genuine Rallye with the correct engine and bits. I swapped the engine and box over one morning (easy with a trolley jack), added some Konis bought for £40 from Motoring News and got it on the road,. It was superb for baiting Minis with. I sold it in 1987 for £400. I saw it again in mid 2005 in Gordon Passey's scrapyard in Newbury - rusted out and with a standard 875 engine back in. RNK243D was the reg. number, a superb weapon. It might still be there, who knows.
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Smiler
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I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :)
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Feb 27, 2007 15:19:28 GMT
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You were close, my mk5 is a crystal green Ghia but isn't an S pack car. The second owner fitted them when the car was just 2 years old. The car was a 2.0ltr Ghia but now has a 24 valve 2.9 V6 up front and a set of poly bushes and an LPG kit. The brakes are being improved at the moment and the springs and shocks will be decided upon when the car is back on the road so I can get some idea as to what it needs.
If all continues to go to plan then it should cost me about £1200 tops including purchase price of the car for what is now a very individual car (to the general public) with decent handling, lots of style and almost 200bhp being fed to the rear wheels! There's not much can touch that for the money.
I'm not against everything you've been saying though. There is a lot of other makes out there that have been in Fords shadow for no reason what so ever.
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Feb 27, 2007 16:32:29 GMT
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i'm not against some of what he's been saying but don't see why he chose to introduce himself (i assume its a he) by slagging people on here's cars off and generaly insulting people the classic ford market wouldn't be as big if it didn't have the ammount of followers it does i personaly don't have any make of car running through my blood but i do like the mk3 cortina for its base potential it looks good what it goes or handles like is neither here nor there that can all be taken care of . as for him being quite knowlegable i'm not convinced, anyone can pick little snipits about any car and make themselves sound like they may know what they are talking about only problem is somtimes those little snipits are not exactly factual . as for his own taste in cars well the austin princess was not exactly known as a good car in any form how ever it could posably have some potential with some very drastic modifying
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Feb 27, 2007 16:48:58 GMT
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I did have a 1961 Sunbeam Rapier........25 years ago. Bloody hell, I'm OLD. When you were 4 year old!? Hey you seem to be into some pretty unfashionable stuff (like us) so why work against the grain, this place may be right for you. However here we all (99.5% of us) have an open mind on 98% of cars and other things in the world. I have left bickering and grumpy old men sadly on the practicalclassics forum, however i'm not sure they like princesses there or not. As I said open mind, and manners is vital here. Hope you settle in well...
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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