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Feb 21, 2007 10:08:44 GMT
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I say get that 406 realised NOW be super cool, either Taxi style or similar theres plenty about so find a good one at a fair price now to mod;) I also agree 129% with this! Be a HERO! "I took a V6 and pepped it up to make sing. A V6 loves to sing...." (Depending on the subtitles on your own copy!)
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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Feb 21, 2007 10:09:41 GMT
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Have to say I am "enjoying" having the Mazda. Its just 100% reliable no hassle car, and technically its not mine so I don't need to worry about it being a bit bland. I will fix that Chrysler, I *will* fix that Chrysler...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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tigran
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am i alone in my thinking?tigran
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Feb 21, 2007 10:36:41 GMT
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But there's times when the 'CBA' (Can't be ars'd) factor weighs heavily. Get in our dullsmobile focus, start engine and point in the direction of where you want to go. You will get there comfortably and with the minimum of fuss and all at 48mpg with radio 2 clearly audible at all times. I like that. And it makes the times when you do get to play with your toys all the more enjoyable. So true it hurts, however much i love retros after driving one solid for a week or a month it's nice to jump into something you don't have to coax into life and check for leaks underneath every 10 secs.
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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Feb 21, 2007 10:44:25 GMT
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I drive my C110 every day, I don't have to check for anything I would or wouldn't on a modern car. It's just got no carpet, or stereo. I despise the radio anyway so I'm not too fussed in that regard. Also, I was the one who pulled the carpet out so, don't care there either. The key is having a retro that is as reliable as a modern.
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Skyline: 1963 - 1973 - 1983 Sunny: 1982 450SLC: 1973 Navara: 1992 Gloria: 1992
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MWF
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Feb 21, 2007 11:04:27 GMT
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I think you have a good point Kyteler. There's a certain simplicity to some retro cars that has to be admired too. I mean I owned a Gen 4 Prelude for a year or so and it was so technical and driven by electronics when it did break you really couldn't do a lot about it.
So imo: Retro does not always equal unreliable Standard does not always equal boring
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Seth
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Feb 21, 2007 11:50:55 GMT
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So true it hurts, however much I love retros after driving one solid for a week or a month it's nice to jump into something you don't have to coax into life and check for leaks underneath every 10 secs. I think with no "modern" around in order to take the easy wimp-out option you soon get used to daily life with an old car and once you've driven something enough you know what does and doesn't need looking at. All retros were daily drivers once upon a time. I am always amused/disgusted with myself whenever I travel in a newish car. I start fiddling with knobs. You really don't need a lot of the stuff you get plastered over the dash of a modern car and I swear they put it there so you've got something to fiddle with while you're going along as the driving experience itself is so boring. *runs for cover!
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Feb 21, 2007 11:55:02 GMT
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So true it hurts, however much I love retros after driving one solid for a week or a month it's nice to jump into something you don't have to coax into life and check for leaks underneath every 10 secs. I think with no "modern" around in order to take the easy wimp-out option you soon get used to daily life with an old car and once you've driven something enough you know what does and doesn't need looking at. All retros were daily drivers once upon a time. I am always amused/disgusted with myself whenever I travel in a newish car. I start fiddling with knobs. You really don't need a lot of the stuff you get plastered over the dash of a modern car and I swear they put it there so you've got something to fiddle with while you're going along as the driving experience itself is so boring. *runs for cover! LOL! Toys are there to play with, I do like simplicity though, specially if i'm fixing and maintaining the thing!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Feb 21, 2007 11:55:47 GMT
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Oh don't get me started on ModCons, I constantly debate their usefulness with my father. Brakes that makes you think you've a better chance of stopping, cruise control so you don't have to think about accelerating, power steering so you can't feel anything through the wheel and automatic so you don't have to worry about changing into the right gear. All of these things bought about to make life "easier" so you can concentrate on driving, except, all it does is make people lazier and less in touch with their vehicle, giving them more hands free to eat with, answer their cellphone or play with their over accessorised stereo, thusly spending LESS time concentrating on driving. To me it just seems to be breeding inattentive lazy drivers. Edit; KITT is badass though!
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Last Edit: Feb 21, 2007 11:56:44 GMT by kyteler
Skyline: 1963 - 1973 - 1983 Sunny: 1982 450SLC: 1973 Navara: 1992 Gloria: 1992
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Feb 21, 2007 12:40:34 GMT
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Yeah, that is the biggest failing of modern cars, they breed over-confidence. Though I said this in jest earlier.... ....rear bumper pre-broken so it doesn't matter if it gets bumped. Plus the radio buttons are big enough to prod with a pastie or mobile phone while doing 80mph. ;D ....there is a whole generation of "drivers" that genuinely think like this. Worrying!
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My fleet: Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres A borrowed Mondeo
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Feb 21, 2007 12:50:53 GMT
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i like vehicles that everything u need to get from A to B, eg, somewhere to sit, 4 wheels, an engine and a method of making it turn any thing else isnt nessesary.
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Feb 21, 2007 12:54:05 GMT
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I like vehicles that everything u need to get from A to B, eg, somewhere to sit, 4 wheels, an engine and a method of making it turn any thing else isnt nessesary. This is of course entirely dependent on the proximity of point 'A' to point 'B'...... Nothing wrong with creature comforts. If I want masochism, I'll just go and slam my knackers in the fridge door for a bit.
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Feb 21, 2007 12:55:04 GMT
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I've DESPARATELY longed to own a taxi replica....... White 406s are pig cheap now, maybe I should just get on with it! ;D French version is the BEST and the only one I'll watch ;D Would be quite a nice daily driver - get one with full leather, etc... Hehe.... First film one, of course.
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Last Edit: Feb 21, 2007 12:57:20 GMT by Lewis
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Feb 21, 2007 12:55:09 GMT
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ok a heater and a radio is nice but I'm not too interested in much else
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Feb 21, 2007 12:59:26 GMT
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I can live without creature comforts but I prefer having them, certainly air con.
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am i alone in my thinking?Robinxr4i
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Feb 21, 2007 12:59:28 GMT
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For me even the hardest standard suspension aint hard enough!
But ICE and all that don't really interest me.
EDIT: I personally HATE power assisted steering!
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Last Edit: Feb 21, 2007 13:01:09 GMT by Robinxr4i
Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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tigran
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am i alone in my thinking?tigran
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Feb 21, 2007 13:10:48 GMT
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I'm dreading doing the ring trip in the height of summer in germany with the capri once it's all poly'd up. I loves my air con.
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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Feb 21, 2007 13:19:41 GMT
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depends on what the car is and what you do with it.
I always wanted air con until I had to service a car with it fitted.
Now I think I can live without. Unless maybe it was a modern thing and then I guess I'd wuss all the major jobs to a garage anyway. Sorry, I hardly even work on the Mazda let alone something C21st...
I like some modern cars. The thing is the modern cars which are worth owning are all too expensive for me to buy.
I have found that the cheapest and most reliable transport is a simple old calssic you can easily work on without having to dismantle the entire airconditioning and crusie control etc in order to change a weeping rocker cover gasket! My Morris Minor was a case in point. Cheap easy to get parts and no job took more than a morning (except chaning the goddamn exhaust out and that was only bcause I cheaped out and bought a one piece system not a two piece) Never let me down, well, it did a couple of times but they come with a starting handle and you really can fix most things at the side of the road with 2 spanners and a screwdriver.
My Fifth Ave is gettign to the point of too much complexity IMO. I'm pulling a lod of the gubbins off to siplify it bu it still has issues around AC and all that even when the ECU etc is gone.
I like PAS an I like Autos. so long as its in a big car with a V8.
I think my ideal daily driver would be a '68 Dodge Dart with the 3.8 slant 6 and auto with power drum brakes and power steering. Not fast or exciting but a characterful drive and simple to work on. A 318 V8 would be OK too. They are OK to get around but access is better on the S6.
Other than that a shiny new Cadillac CTS-V with dealer doing the service work and a long factory warranty would be nice, but I will never drop than kind of coin on car, especially one about to devalue...
I'd go for another Mk3 Cortina (or Mk4, Mk5) they are also rediculously easy to run and work on and relaible and comfy and really thats all the car I need. Would need to be a 2.0 though the 1.6 is too slow for my tastes.
Hmmmm....
Cortina.....
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Feb 21, 2007 13:26:25 GMT
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Now this is taking an interesting turn.
Characteristic retros which are -genuinely- liveable as daylies.
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Last Edit: Feb 21, 2007 13:26:44 GMT by MWF
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Feb 21, 2007 14:03:53 GMT
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1850HL. Great interior, good boxes for around town work, light steering, comfortable, plenty of options for modernising I.e. remote central locking, electric windows.......strong, robust, economical.......etc (bit of a fan). Always attract attention 4 doors, big boot, large fuel tank, run from cold easily.......etc etc...... Even better with a TR7 2.0 lump in them, then they're geniunely quite capable little machines, with some appropriate suspension mods! Best heater in any car EvAr as well Good at chewing up motorway miles too - did 500 miles pretty much in one hit (barring breaks for obvious) and didn't feel at all groggy come the other end, more relaxed if anything ;D. Was a bit deaf from the wind noise about 80 tho
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Feb 21, 2007 14:13:02 GMT
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I've used lots of old cars as dailies.
Several Vauxhall Victor FDs and Ventora FD - although parts are getting a little harder to get for them now so I'd be nervous doing that now.
Chrysler 5th Avenue (the previous one!) parts supply OK but often with mailo rder delays from USA. Hoping current one will be OK when fixed.
1965 Oldsmobile - heavy on fuel and tricky to park in NCP etc, but no problems with most things until expensive transmission fault grounded it.
1966 Buick LeSabre. As above but slightly better on fuel.
Rover P5B V8 Coupe - fantastic daily. If I could afford another good one I would. Easy parts, lovely drive, eats motorway miles at 80-90.
Morris Minor - simplicity defined. Just a little uncomfy for longer runs. My last one was a rag top and it was a little draughty at times. Motorfactors still stock most stuff or use a mail order company. Its all nice and cheap too.
Mk3 Cortina - several versions. 1600 crossflow too slow but 2.0 Pinto is great. Auto version sluggish. Comfy relaible, easy parts, easy to maintain. I'm halfway to looking for another one. (Mk4 and Mk5 similar to own and drive but not as pretty IMO)
Mk2 and Mk3 Capri. As per Cortina but I'm less into having another just now. Although...
Mini - PITA to work on, keep on top of the rust or else. uncivilised but a real hoot to drive.
Just a selection from my daily history
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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