vambo
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Hello all
I am currently at my wits end and would like some frendly advise.
all I want to do is fit my big banded wheels to my Volvo 240, but to get the rears on it requires some spacers due to the offset.
So, I buy some spacers from a company on Ebay (not named at the moment). After waiting weeks they send me a very nicely machined set of adaptors, which is nice... except the PCD is wrong, buy about 1.5mm after i centered it and scribed the diameter on the lathe, although i could tell the PCD was off because the wheel and hub wouldnt fit!!!
So, after a massive debate with the company by Email, as they are abroad, i finally, through sending pictures and arguing untill i am blue convince them the spacers are no good!
I send them back, I wait another 3 weeks and the... a new set arrive and guess what? these ones are off to. ok, they fit to my wheels this time, but when they are on the hubs, the studs are definatly off center.
Any Advice or thoughts as always would be greatly appreciated as i feel totally gutted at the moment
pics to follow!
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1970 Hillman Avenger 1980 Datsun 240K Skyline 1992 Volvo 240 Torslanda 1992 Toyota Hilux Turbo Bizzle 1995 Volvo 850 T5
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Did you pay by paypal? Just raise a dispute thought paypal saying the goods are not as described, jump through the hoops a bit until paypal tell you to send the adapters back and they will refund you the money.
Gary Thomas (gar.thoms@hotmail.co.uk) makes custom adapters and he's flipping good at it. Drop him an email.
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vambo
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Did you pay by paypal? Just raise a dispute thought paypal saying the goods are not as described, jump through the hoops a bit until paypal tell you to send the adapters back and they will refund you the money. Gary Thomas (gar.thoms@hotmail.co.uk) makes custom adapters and he's flipping good at it. Drop him an email. Geez man, you make addaptors and you are just up the road! hmmmm why diddnt i come to you, well you may be getting some work your way soon!
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vambo
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heres product, all nice n shiny looking. Heres the stud in the hole!! very very hard to get a good pic, it may look like I'm being picky, but it is slightly offsett! Please help
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Is that what you are complaining about? a bit OCD i think???
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Isn't it worth just bolting the wheels on and trying it out to see if that is going to be a problem?
You'd be able to spin the wheel on the car to see if it goes round ok and steady before you put the car back on the ground.
I have had cars before with wheels which don't fit and they were more out of spec than your photo seens to show.
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Unless that photo is a bit misleading, that doesn't look like it'll be a problem
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vambo
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Yeah, it could be the OCD in me but just wanting a few opinions, heres a couple more pics, I tightened the nuts up, and the wear is all to the outer side of each counter sunk hole..... one nut to one side wear to outside Close up of cut like i said earlyer, its hard to show in photos any comments welcome thanks again
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Well it looks like they may have drilled the holes around a circumference 1mm too tight. But if the mistake only results in the nuts rubbing the outer edges of the holes then I'd just stick with it.
Tell them there's a problem and show them the photos... but really you want to get on with things so probably not worth wasting another few weeks over.
This kind of stuff happens all the time with modified car parts. The products are too niche to be properly measured and tested so nothing will ever be perfect unless you do it yourself.
It gets to a point sometimes with some things where you just have to say f-it... that'll do...
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vambo
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It gets to a point sometimes with some things where you just have to say f-it... that'll do... [/quote]
Yeah, possibly, I'm just concerend with the effact it will have on the studs when I torque them up??
You think they will be ok?
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I can't really think of any reason why they wouldn't be fine. If the problem isn't bad enough to stop the spacers fitting on then the slightly tight fit isn't going to ruin everything.
Assuming the center bore of the spacer fits over the original center section of the hub... you could file out the holes for the original studs so there is absolutely no chance of any trouble. i.e. bending studs or stressing the spacer etc...
If you decide to stick with these ones and run them for a while I would certainly recommend letting the company know so the next set they make are the right size. They might send you a new set which you could switch over later.
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Yeah, possibly, I'm just concerend with the effact it will have on the studs when I torque them up?? You think they will be ok? I wouldnt run them. Like you say, tighten the nuts and it will pull the stud at an angle. It wont take much for them to snap after that.
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Yeah, possibly, I'm just concerend with the effact it will have on the studs when I torque them up?? You think they will be ok? I wouldnt run them. Like you say, tighten the nuts and it will pull the stud at an angle. It wont take much for them to snap after that. total balls. The spacer is made of aluminum and it actually fits over the studs so they're not even bent. If they bend even as much a 1mm they still won't be anywhere near snapping. The studs will be made from good quality high tensile steel. Not china or glass.
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Last Edit: Dec 2, 2012 18:24:03 GMT by ejenner
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vambo
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Snapage is my concern! They are ally yes.
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Copey
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they aint right, wouldnt want to run them on my car thats for sure
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It does look a lot worse in the later pictures. For the sake of not having your wheels come off, just do a paypal dispute and send them back as unsuitable.
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they're not great are they? what sort of money did you pay?
i wouldn't be happy, but wouldn't wanna make judgement on them with out trying them in person.
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Yeah, I'd be wanting to send that back. While it's true that parts are made to a tolerance, the fact it's a small market is no excuse at all for poor or larger than normal tolerances. In fact it's easier to make parts to a tight tolerance when they're in small numbers as the machinery used to make them will come less out of calibration during the production run.
Parts like that will usually be made on a CNC lathe, which should allow them to be made with tolerances MUCH too small to see by eye, even with a ham-fisted or inexperienced operator, I'm very easy going with my attitude as a customer, but even I wouldn't just put up with them being that far out.
(This is assuming that your hubs are spot on, I'd make sure you measure everything first before going any further, just to confirm that the adapters are the part at fault.)
OK, they probably would work, but then when it's all that's holding your wheels on is 'probably' really enough? That tolerance is just plain poor considering what the part is, so I wouldn't be happy with it personally.
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Last Edit: Dec 2, 2012 20:10:22 GMT by RobinJI
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vambo
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they're not great are they? what sort of money did you pay? I wouldn't be happy, but wouldn't wanna make judgement on them with out trying them in person. Theye were £50 plus £13 pp, a good price, but would rather have a set that fit!
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Lots of good stuff about things. ^ All of this.
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Last Edit: Dec 2, 2012 20:32:43 GMT by jrevillug
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