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Jan 13, 2007 16:50:07 GMT
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When the weather gets a bit warmer I will be buying a new wing and painting it myself, and painting the front panel which is a bit rusty while i'm at it.
I have a compressor and a spray gun, but what else will I need?
What paint will I want? Some paints need a clear coat and some don't? The polo doesn't have a clear coat as standard I don't think.
If I can only get waterbased, how does it need to be cured and how long does it take?
Adam
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1997 TVR Chimaera
2009 Westfield Megabusa
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Jan 13, 2007 17:35:21 GMT
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If you use celly you need a celly mask, primer and topcoat, celly thinners and cheapo thinners for gunwash. For 2K (2-pack) which I recommend because it sprays easier you need a 2K mask made by 3M which is about £25, primer and topcoat, 2K thinners and cheap thinners for gunwash. 2K needs a lot less prep work than cellulose and you'll only need to give it 2 or 3 coats maximum.
Also you need masking tape, something to put the wing on when you spray it, sand paper, rubbing compound and wax.
I wouldn't normally recommend this but use a cheap 2K paint because otherwise that wing will look incredibly shiny compared to the rest of the car!
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Jan 13, 2007 18:11:38 GMT
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2K you need to cover all your skin and your eyes etc. as it is absorbed though all sorts or pores and eyes and whatever. Only time I used it I felt like chucking up for hours afterwards and I was wrapped up like a spaceman. Evil stuff.
If you can get celly I'd use that.
If you can only get waterbased then I think it needs a clear coat. I don't thing theres a waterbased one stage paint yet? Or so I was told not long back.
To cure waterbased you need heat and air movement. For a wing you can get away with a hairdryer but it might take a while...
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Jan 13, 2007 22:06:24 GMT
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Thanks guys. I take it spraying outside = bad for things in paint... good for health?
Does 2k keep? If so I may try and get some now and keep it until I need it.
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2009 Westfield Megabusa
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slater
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Painting questionslater
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Jan 13, 2007 22:17:07 GMT
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2k goes off so quick you don't normaly have many problems spraying outside. I cirtanly leave the workshop door open to dispurse the fumes evertime i spray and don't have troubles.
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Jan 13, 2007 22:25:13 GMT
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Can't help with direct advice but there's a good article in the new issue of Practical Classics about using water based stuff at home....  |
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Jan 13, 2007 22:26:54 GMT
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Can't help with direct advice but there's a good article in the new issue of Practical Classics about using water based stuff at home.... Good advice isn't always direct advice  I'll have to check it out, although I've already met my monthly magazine quota  |
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2009 Westfield Megabusa
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2K like other isocyanate based things is very dodgy you can use it for years with no problem and then suddenly become sensitised to it. Once that happens you suffer with industrial asthma and you have no tolerance of it in any quantites in the future. I know you can get 2K masks but really they are not good enough unless you have a tyvek suit and good goggles/face mask. Take care (says the person who has used 2k outside while holding his breath   ) |
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Incidentally there are a few places on ebay that sell and mix cellulose. Never used any of them but have asked for prices and they are comparable to the paint shop I use. Might have to look for that Practical classics seth |
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so whats the deal on using celly? does it all need done before jan 08 or is that legislation tosh?
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1997 TVR Chimaera
2009 Westfield Megabusa
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rmeemerb things like hardener, and erfm, lawuer laquer and erm, thinners and the paint and the I'm,cxmmm some other things i vogffroforgetg biut o nrrfed them
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Jan 14, 2007 10:29:19 GMT
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Difficult to say how much it would cover, depends how many coats or how thick it was put on you would probably get a bonnet and maybe a wing if you are very lucky with 500ml.
If its your first time using it get a litre so at least you have a bit to practice with.
To be honest that seems a bit expensive. Normally 1 litre would be around 15 quid, but I havent bought any paint this year so I don't know if everywhere has put prices up because of the limited availability of cellulose.
I would definetely look around to check prices first though
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Jan 14, 2007 10:39:00 GMT
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so whats the deal on using celly? does it all need done before jan 08 or is that legislation tosh? Not 100% sure what the current situation is exactly, but as far as I know production of it for automotive use has stopped from end of december. And only existing stocks of the paint are available for sale this year. After Dec 07 its only available for sale for a "classic car" for original resto, boats and industrial It breaks down like this: it’s legal to buy it, it’s legal to own it and, if you’re the proprietor of a paint shop, it’s legal to sell it. It’s legal to carry it, which doesn’t really matter ‘cause — get a load of this — if the cops stop you, it’s illegal for them to search you. Mars bar to the first person who spots the modified quote ;D |
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Jan 14, 2007 10:40:29 GMT
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rmeemerb things like hardener, and erfm, lawuer laquer and erm, thinners and the paint and the I'm,cxmmm some other things I vogffroforgetg biut o nrrfed them WTF is going on with your typing latham? |
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Painting questionarthurbrown
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Jan 14, 2007 10:47:16 GMT
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Is latham using some kind of 'I'm smashed off my tits on crack' firefox-plug in?
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Last Edit: Jan 14, 2007 10:47:47 GMT by arthurbrown
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Jan 14, 2007 10:50:32 GMT
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sleep typing, its becoming a common affliction there was a program it on UK_living_homestyle, presented by Yvette Fielding and Maureen of driving school.
Either that or he is pissed, one of the two
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Jan 14, 2007 10:50:52 GMT
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pulpfiction.... (marsbar please!) www.paints4u.co.uk sold me a tin of celly last month quite happily I just need to stop the garage flooding for long enought to use it now.... |
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Jan 14, 2007 10:52:14 GMT
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Only deep fried left I`m afraid  |
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Jan 14, 2007 14:53:59 GMT
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sorry, yeah, notice the time, living in halls does things like this to you  ;D |
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