meltedcheese
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Nov 17, 2012 20:15:35 GMT
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Hello chaps, I am currently looking into doing a Retro Volvo Amazon project from June next year after I get hitched. I wanted to spray it myself properly and achieve a half decent paint job. Can anyone give me some good advice or tell me about past experiences (does & don't) on doing your own DIY at home paint job? I would also like to know about paint supplies (value/quality) and the best places to buy them from (spray gun, primers, fillers, thinners, paint, lacquer). Finally I would also like to be advised on methods/process', I would be very grateful for advice. Thanks Chris Some pics for you efforts ;D       One for xmas, maybe a little early   |
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Nov 17, 2012 20:19:20 GMT
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I do it all day every day as my job,I wouldn't no where to start!  ,best thing to do is look on YouTube mate  |
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Well you will mess with these cars....
Mk4 golf gttdi highline. Mk2 golf 1.8T
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Nov 17, 2012 20:20:34 GMT
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Also,anything upol is good value for money and good quality as regards primer,clear coat ect
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Well you will mess with these cars....
Mk4 golf gttdi highline. Mk2 golf 1.8T
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Nov 17, 2012 20:21:52 GMT
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I'm gonna be really lazy, but look on here for a guide to roller-painting.
I intend to try it myself, and it could save you buying all that gear for potentially a one-off job.
At first glance, the idea might sound shonky, but some of the results folks have attained have been excellent. If you can put in the elbow-grease rather than splashing out for spray-equipment, it might be for you.
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sparkyt
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Nov 17, 2012 20:28:59 GMT
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Best results start with prep .. prep prep clean paint ...
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meltedcheese
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Nov 17, 2012 20:37:25 GMT
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Thanks chaps, I have a half decent compressor so the gun I think would be my only potential expense with regards to hardware. Always been pretty methodical and don't mind the elbow grease so I think I am up to the challenge suppose I wont really know until i dip my tow in  Sprayed up small items before but nothing as large as this, I will give the roller system a look in too! |
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mattc
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Nov 17, 2012 20:41:57 GMT
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Go on you tube and type in plasti dip.
Can easy paint a car and if you don;t like it peal it off
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fred
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Nov 17, 2012 20:42:40 GMT
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Its 99 % prep work,
any dink, or ripple always seems magnified when shiny paint is applied
There is literally hundreds of different applications for painting
I did one at my old house which had a wicked back garden, half way thru sprayed, bloody neighbours kicked a barbeque up. I was seriously not happy! ash sticking to the tacky panels
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meltedcheese
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Nov 17, 2012 21:40:53 GMT
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Go on you tube and type in plasti dip. Can easy paint a car and if you don;t like it peal it off That is pretty impressive stuff! Looking for a more permanent solution though. |
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meltedcheese
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Nov 17, 2012 22:03:12 GMT
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Its 99 % prep work, any dink, or ripple always seems magnified when shiny paint is applied There is literally hundreds of different applications for painting I did one at my old house which had a wicked back garden, half way thru sprayed, bloody neighbours kicked a barbeque up. I was seriously not happy! ash sticking to the tacky panels haha, luckily I'm not overlooked, was thinking about making up a temp booth on my drive out of 2x2 and plastic sheet for the body and panels done in the garage. Does anyone know where to get paint supplies in cheshire/liverpool area? May go and have a chat with a paint sprayer who has a unit up the round |
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fogey
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Nov 17, 2012 22:17:47 GMT
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Find a friendly paint factor, get him to sell you some good old fashioned celly (tell him you won't tell anybody if he doesn't ), thin it 50/50 & apply 5 or six coats, leave it a week, flat it back to a good shine. Works every time |
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have a quick look here retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=readersrides&action=display&thread=35751&page=6 I painted my car last year in my garage, just got a loada poly dust sheets from asda , £1 each and a pack of pegs, hung the sheets up to try keep worst of the dust off. I bought a sealey gun for around £30 of ebay, also a small touch up gun,cost about £12 I think kinda like a scaled down version, I used this for the primer and doing the fiddly bits- trim etc that id removed. the paint was again from Ebay, there are shops on there doing 5L of cellulose base coat and 5L of high gloss thinners, if I remember right it was about £70 delivered. just mix 50/50, I just got some measuring jugs from asda, 40p each slapped it on , a couple of light /tacky coats , left about 20 mins and then a heavier/ slower coat, putting the paint on a little thicker ya could then see the shine in it.what I found to help was to have a lamp/light at one end of the car and look at the reflection of it on the car body as I put the paint on, could get an idea of how it was going on, if that makes sense? then a few days after flatted and polished it, it was pretty forgiving in that I had a couple of runs which I was able to flat out and polish, almost completely removed, so easy to cover mishaps. hope this helps... I did mine black, possibly not the best choice as it show every mark/imperfection. not the best paint job, but its a nice feeling that I tried myself |
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Last Edit: Nov 18, 2012 0:17:32 GMT by carlb1970
I'm not curse word, i just fell off my shoes
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as said prep is the key to any paint job but there are other things to consider if you have done any paint before then ask for the info sheets for the paint you will be using . you get very different methods with different types of paint . use a good quality primer the smoother that primer is the better the top coat will be so wet flat the primer with 600 or 800 then apply a tack coat /light coat on the first couple of coat of top and or base coat if you using a clear then on the last couple of coats lay paint on thicker being careful not to lay it on to thick and get runs. this was painted outside in celly  and this one was also painted outside with 2k sorry about the curse word pic don't have many pics of this car  |
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meltedcheese
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Nov 18, 2012 20:49:04 GMT
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have a quick look here retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=readersrides&action=display&thread=35751&page=6 I painted my car last year in my garage, just got a loada poly dust sheets from asda , £1 each and a pack of pegs, hung the sheets up to try keep worst of the dust off. I bought a sealey gun for around £30 of ebay, also a small touch up gun,cost about £12 I think kinda like a scaled down version, I used this for the primer and doing the fiddly bits- trim etc that id removed. the paint was again from Ebay, there are shops on there doing 5L of cellulose base coat and 5L of high gloss thinners, if I remember right it was about £70 delivered. just mix 50/50, I just got some measuring jugs from asda, 40p each slapped it on , a couple of light /tacky coats , left about 20 mins and then a heavier/ slower coat, putting the paint on a little thicker ya could then see the shine in it.what I found to help was to have a lamp/light at one end of the car and look at the reflection of it on the car body as I put the paint on, could get an idea of how it was going on, if that makes sense? then a few days after flatted and polished it, it was pretty forgiving in that I had a couple of runs which I was able to flat out and polish, almost completely removed, so easy to cover mishaps. hope this helps... I did mine black, possibly not the best choice as it show every mark/imperfection. not the best paint job, but its a nice feeling that I tried myself Nice job! That is a pretty impressive result, can't argue with the car choice either how is the paint job standing up to the test of time a year on? |
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meltedcheese
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Nov 18, 2012 21:14:01 GMT
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as said prep is the key to any paint job but there are other things to consider if you have done any paint before then ask for the info sheets for the paint you will be using . you get very different methods with different types of paint . use a good quality primer the smoother that primer is the better the top coat will be so wet flat the primer with 600 or 800 then apply a tack coat /light coat on the first couple of coat of top and or base coat if you using a clear then on the last couple of coats lay paint on thicker being careful not to lay it on to thick and get runs. this was painted outside in celly and this one was also painted outside with 2k sorry about the curse word pic don't have many pics of this car Amazing cars, loving the escort sig too  just got two questions really.... Which paint job was the easiest to work with? Which one gave the best finish? I have read up a fair bit on this subject, I am getting the feeling that the celly would be the easy beginner option with the cons being that their is a higher chance it could react and the finish not being as durable as the 2k. The 2k being professionally used, is more expensive, toxic, little bit more complex to mix, but ultimately more durable, less susceptible to a bad reaction, longer lasting. Am I right??! Thanks for the comments chaps |
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Nov 18, 2012 22:34:46 GMT
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cheers matey, the paint is bearing up pretty well, i gave it a good few coats and have flatted and polished it a few times, seems to still clean up nice. you are right about the reactions with cellulose tho, theres a few spots on my bonnet where its reacted and looks crazed if ya look close up. think this is down to some paint i used to do the bonnet matt black a few years back, even tho its had a load of primer on it it still comes through. hoping to re paint the bonnet this year, might even give the whole car another few coats.
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I'm not curse word, i just fell off my shoes
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Nov 18, 2012 22:41:59 GMT
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celly is the easier one to DIY out of the 2 but celly itself is getting hard to get there is another easier one that is what a lot of places use as a replacement for celly and that is acrylic 1k its fast drying and durable not as durable as 2k but pretty good as long as the prep is good all of the above will give as good a finish 2k will last longer without the need to touch it but the others can also last ive seen 50+ year old celly paint jobs that are still very good .the paint finish will depend on how much work you want to put in my cars are wet flat down with 1500 then 2000 then 3000 grit paper before polishing it takes time but will give a very good shine when done right
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Nov 18, 2012 22:55:07 GMT
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Avoid painting black if your a novice, shows every imperfection, wheras white is far better in this respect.
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meltedcheese
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Nov 19, 2012 13:25:25 GMT
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Great advice thanks chaps, the amount of prep I am going/willing to do is as much as it takes! I don't see the point in me going to the effort without achieving the finish (will prob end up taking a few weeks off work to hit the ground running when this time comes) I will look into the new acrylic 1k, this is sounding like a sensible option. Thanks for all the input, it has been good to see and hear about peoples experience with this so that I can at least map an approach. Think I still need to do a bit more homework, Thanks again PS found this link if anyone is interested, pretty informative, some good advice. www.mig-welding.co.uk/spray-painting.htm |
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,best thing to do is look on YouTube mate 
Sprayed up small items before but nothing as large as this, I will give the roller system a look in too! 
just got two questions really....