eurogranada
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Aug 31, 2019 13:50:21 GMT
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I guess I'm going to need some help... I've done all the checks I could think of yet still no difference in braking. It still pulls to the right. I've: - checked if disk secure to hub - checked for movement of the pads - removed calipers and taken out pads - checked pistons free to move and easy to push back in - pads looked a little glazed to me so sanded them on a known flat with a piece of sandpaper. - cleaned and replaced all parts - checked as best I could for disk warpage/runout and found very very little at best but as measurements aren't precise I'm not ruling this out. Checked bearing grease and play. Confused as curse word here as well. One wheel feels tighter but still passes the screwdriver test but with slight force. No noticable play anymore where a hint was there before. Other side other way round, feels much looser and feelable play present where used to be just a hint. Also a sound while rotating. Haven't had the courage to take the hubs off as I also wouldn't have had split pins to put back on. But I fear damage... I'm a bit miffed that I seem to have followed all advise and done nothing wrong yet still it may not be quite right.... I want it all ok so I can restart enjoying the damned thing so I give in, I'm officially asking for help. So SamJ, shall we make an appointment? As you're the only one on here close enough... Sometimes I think I'm just a lousy mechanic... |
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Aug 31, 2019 14:13:48 GMT
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I don’t think from the amount of hard work and ingenuity you shown converting the engine and interior on your car that anybody would think you are a lousy mechanic!
How worn are the tyres? My BMW is horrible when braking when the front tyre wear puts the tread lower than the tears.
Whatever it is it will be resolved by your dedication and the collective knowledge of RR 😎
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Aug 31, 2019 16:55:06 GMT
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Have you re bled them? Could be a little air.
Sounds like the only possible issues now are either a small amount of air, a slightly breaking down hose or just needing to settle in.
I wonder if there is any chance breaking force may be pulling one wheel to toe out but with all the steering work you have done recently I'm sure you would have spotted any looseness anywhere.
I think it was mentioned before that maybe the pads took some material damage?
Can you rig something up to press the pedal by however much you choose so you can depress it a little and check wheel rotation so you can find out if one side is actuating before the other side or if both sides actuate at the same time but one side is creating less friction?
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eurogranada
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Aug 31, 2019 17:19:01 GMT
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Tires are new. Haven't seen any wear...
Forgot to say, but I started by bleeding the front lines. No air...
Also all hoses are new in the sense of put on new during restoration and have been on for 2-3 years max.
Pads looked glazed/metallic... got a pic but have to upload first. So I sanded the blocks on that side to look a lot fresher...
I've replaced brake pads and discs before, always need to bed in a little, but this has never lead to pulling so severely on a single side.
I do feel that before further investigation is done I should get front end alignment checked, cause I can see sense in the car pulling under braking from incorrect settings...
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Aug 31, 2019 17:30:10 GMT
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I do feel that before further investigation is done I should get front end alignment checked, cause I can see sense in the car pulling under braking from incorrect settings... Seems wise. You may be chasing a problem that isnt even brake related, just shows up under braking. |
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Sept 1, 2019 10:33:07 GMT
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Not sure on braking bit give them a few days to bed in better and see if it improves. If no change try swapping pads to opposite sides of car and see if the pull follows the pads. Apologies if I missed it , did you try blackpopracing suggestion ? ..and less of the "lousy mechanic" comments ...  |
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Last Edit: Sept 1, 2019 10:33:43 GMT by westbay
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eurogranada
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Sept 1, 2019 11:19:46 GMT
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No truthfully time did not permit me and as I've mostly experienced brake pull cause is usually found on opposite side of where it pulls to...I hoped my doings on the left would be enough.
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eternaloptimist
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Sept 1, 2019 14:15:18 GMT
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As well as swapping the pads from one side to the other, I’d do the same with the front wheels. Don’t do them both at the same time though. I wonder if the reason the problem appears less significant under heavy braking is that you’re unconsciously holding the wheel tighter.
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Sept 1, 2019 16:03:03 GMT
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I don't there will be bearing damage, don't over think it.just remember, too much play is better than too little. You can normally get away with reusing using split pins once.
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eurogranada
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Sept 3, 2019 11:32:01 GMT
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I'll see when I get the time to dive in further.
Unfortunately life has gotten even tougher the last few days as besides the goings on with my FIL who's probably not going to hold out much longer, my wife had to go in for emergency eye surgery yesterday. Her "baerveldt" implant to reduce eye pressure was working too good and needed to come out as her eye was shrinking and hurting and vision was even worse than normal.
All seems to have gone well, but now it's a waiting game to see how far the eye and vision recovers. First check up in about 90 minutes...
This all has left very little time and desire to delve in further where the granada is concerned. I'm not one to easily give up, but this time around I'm starting to get a little frustrated. Before the wheel bearing issue, I only had a steering rack leak to contend with but at least I felt safe to drive it.
Ah well onwards and upwards or something like that...
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Sept 3, 2019 12:07:44 GMT
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You have a lot on your plate for the time beeing, that is clear. Hopefully you can still get some quality time in your Granada at some point in the not to distant future.
At least the car won't go anywhere on its own and will be waiting for you in the garage when you feel like tinkering a bit.
Best wishes.
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eternaloptimist
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Sept 3, 2019 12:26:54 GMT
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You have a lot on your plate for the time beeing, that is clear. Hopefully you can still get some quality time in your Granada at some point in the not to distant future. At least the car won't go anywhere on its own and will be waiting for you in the garage when you feel like tinkering a bit. Best wishes. Exactly. Alex, take it easy for a bit, the car can wait. You’ve done a brilliant job with it. There are a few bits which need attention, but hey, that’s always going to be the case. Look after yourself |
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eurogranada
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You have a lot on your plate for the time beeing, that is clear. Hopefully you can still get some quality time in your Granada at some point in the not to distant future. At least the car won't go anywhere on its own and will be waiting for you in the garage when you feel like tinkering a bit. Best wishes. Exactly. Alex, take it easy for a bit, the car can wait. You’ve done a brilliant job with it. There are a few bits which need attention, but hey, that’s always going to be the case. Look after yourself I'll use this quote as it has both of the comments in there... Thanks, first of all, for your kind words...both of you. And in a way you are both right. The car is right there not going anywhere... And I will try to lookout for myself as well. But I guess many of you know how it is to be the go to guy, to be the person that has to guide and help everyone along. It's demanding. As for my sanity... Thing is, driving this car and working on it is my main "get away from it all" thing. With all the other things I just need or have to do this is the one thing I enjoy doing for myself (ok a little less right now, but at least I've learned a lot over the last few weeks again). I've had it on the road for three years now and despite that not been able to enjoy a normal season of activities with it. So I'm eager to get things right and get to that stage... and apart from the brakes now being a bit weird, I was just about there! |
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eurogranada
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More for myself than anything else... As you guys feel like extended family, I'd like to have you know that my beloved father in law passed away gently yesterday evening after a short but agressive sick bed.
He was loved by lot's, and I was one of his biggest fans. He's in a better place now and his passing was one for the books: time for goodbyes, never alone and all his children and wife present for his final heartbeat.
He will be sorely missed...
Safe travels Big Friendly Giant
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Sad news.
Condolences to you and yours.
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Condolences to you and your family....
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Sept 9, 2019 10:32:59 GMT
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Alex - Really sorry to hear this - keep strong
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eurogranada
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Sept 9, 2019 11:31:18 GMT
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thank you all
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Sept 9, 2019 16:52:46 GMT
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Hi Alex,
Condolences to you and your family
Peter
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Sept 9, 2019 18:19:29 GMT
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Sad to hear.
Condolences to you all.
Geir
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